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  1. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    There are those who profess faith in Christ, who participate in the means of grace in the church, who teach in the church, who perform works of mercy, etc. who never actually put their trust in Christ in a saving way. They have every outward appearance of being a believer, just as Judas did and...
  2. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    So the Apostle Paul wasn't saved...because he clearly shift tense in Romans 7 to his present condition at the time of his writing. Moreover, this is a reality that so many Christians identify with as they struggle against the world, the flesh, and the devil...and rather than it being an...
  3. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    Just so I'm clear, Romans 2:2-4 applies to saved people...but Romans 7:15-23 applies to unsaved people. Do I have that right?
  4. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    In their context, Paul is laying forth the universal sinfulness of all mankind as a prelude to the good news of the Gospel. He proceeds after this to explain how the Jews who have the Law are just as much under condemnation as the Gentiles who do not have it.
  5. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    And you as well. Know that I speak from zeal, and I apologize if my words come through as combative. I tend to be blunt and sarcastic at time ;)
  6. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    It's a real bummer to see the Spirit take such a passive approach after all He's done in earlier redemptive history. But when your theology seeks to elevate man's will above God's, I guess that's a necessary thing.
  7. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    And yet in common language we all say that we "need to renew our library books." Obviously this analogy didn't successfully convey to you the intended point. Remind me not to refer to a "sunrise" to make a point :) Let me say this again: You presume that "renew" can only mean it no longer...
  8. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    How conveniently selective! Apparently there's a special class of human that reveals not possessing the faith they profess by their apostasy, whereas nobody else is apparently subject to that circumstance. Good to know </s>
  9. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    You missed my point, friend. The analogy was intended to point to the fact that one is still in possession of the book when it is renewed. You presume that "renew" can only mean it no longer exists and must be recreated. Because faith is the instrumental cause of our justification, as long as...
  10. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    Ummm..... "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19
  11. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    You assume a different definition of "renew" than what's intended. Perhaps you've never had to renew a library book ;)
  12. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    The real question is not CAN a Christian sin, not repent of it and be condemned. The real question is WILL they, and the answer is NO. The Holy Spirit will ultimately convict him who He indwells and bring him to repentance. So even if you were to believe that sin somehow breaks the bond of...
  13. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    Why would someone advocating justification by faith alone turn around and say someone is justified without faith? I find it disturbing how much people are focusing on the outward because unlike God they cannot look upon the heart. They see a struggle, a stumble, a season of turmoil and they...
  14. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    And? He's not a Calvinist and certainly not Reformed in his theology. More strawman arguments. Moreover, I don't know how many times it has to be explained to you how many times the Reformed will come back to Romans 6 in this case. Paul explicitly and directly addresses any mistaken notion...
  15. frumanchu

    Are we saved by grace, faith, works of faith, repentance, election, or combination of these?

    Congratulations :) I've been on CF alone discussing these topics for over 16 years, plus additional years on another religion forum. That last would be your own logically erroneous conclusion. I know of no Calvinist that believes sin is no real danger at all or that it is inconsequential...