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Recent content by faither

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    None are worthy

    Justification: To be just like Christ. The law: a mirror, not only to show us what we can't do, but on occasion will show us something good that comes out of us from time to time, His nature! The worthiness I think your addressing is, the "worthy manner" of how we are to participate with the...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    Wait i'm still in. There's the real issue, problem, what ever you want to call it. I should be able to convince you of what I'm saying is true. But your being dishonest when you say i'm inventing some kind of pisteuos. It's the word used in Scripture, 4100 in your strongs, used 248 times. All...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    That's another difference between us. Your understandings are built on you receiving Christ. My understandings are built on He receives us. I know if we took a vote, I would look like Jim Gilmore running for president. But that's not going to change my mind. To your credit, if I hadn't what I...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    If we don't start the process right, the rest doesn't matter. If you try and build your understanding on the noun, "faith", instead of the verb, "faithing."(or believing in your "mis"understanding) We end up asking someone we don't even know "why can't we just get saved right now through...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    No, is't to the Vines Greek dictionary that surrender is the same as pisteuo. No, I don't see surrender as a necessary act to save us from hell. That would be expecting something in return, wouldn't it? I made myself clear at least 2 or 3 times surrender has to be willing and with no...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    Ya wrong site. Thanks for posting the link. It's in this forum under "Salvation timeline or journey".
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    My bad. It's called the "Salvation timeline or journey". I bumped it for you.
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    I don't use the words "channel " or "tube", or "complete" or "almost perfect surrender".
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    No problem, I can be the same way. All I ask is read my posts either very slowly or 2 or 3 times. I'm not the greatest communicator. But as for surrender. If I'm on a battle field fighting an enemy, and that enemy has His foot on my neck, is my surrender to that enemy because I desire to be...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    This is what I think of the period when The Father is drawing us to Christ. That's as far as most people ever get! Because if they don't surrender their life and will to Christ (pisteuo) they'll never go any further. They don't have the Spirit of Christ there, when being drawn, yet most people...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    Ya, go to my thread, "fact checking faith, the verb".
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    I never mentioned the word obedience once , and in your evaluation of my understandings, your made it the cornerstone. And that's just the start. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like you were intentionally misrepresenting me in your evaluation. I'm real touchy about that . I'm thinking I should...
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    What is Works Salvationism? Do Works Save us?

    I thought we were on the same page, not so much.