Recent content by Dave Ellis

You just contradicted yourself in back to back paragraphs.... How on one hand can you claim that morality itself is rooted in god, however the fact that god may not actually exist is irrelevant. The reality is, until we have good reason to believe the god you are referring to exists, then...

I'm merely raising the same argument because you never adequately discredited it.

According to christian mythology it is, however there's no evidence to support that idea. So if god didn't make them that way, then how did they acquire that skill? Furthermore, there's no evidence to support the idea that adam and eve were immortal even within your own theology. The myth...

If all happens according to god's plan, then you have no option to deviate from that plan. You would only have the illusion of choice.

Explain how

There is no difference between "god's morality" and "our morality" if morality has an objective basis. It would exist independently of a god or us, and the standard would be the same. Likewise, there's no difference between "human logic" and "god's logic", logic also has an objective...

That's like saying if I built a time bomb, placed it somewhere, set the timer and armed it, it's not my responsibility when it eventually explodes. It's a ridiculous argument.

How we think is a direct result of how our brains are wired and constructed. That is inescapable. If god created us all, then he created our brains and decided how they would be wired. The example I brought up earlier in this thread was that most people including myself have no interest in...

If god knew Adam would disobey him when he created Adam, then he had the option of leaving him as is and having Adam sin, or creating Adam in a way where Adam would not disobey him. If god chose to create Adam in a way that he knew he would disobey, then that decision is also on god. The only...

I don't see how you aren't getting this.... if god has foreknowledge of all the decisions people will make in a given universe at a given time when he creates the universe, then ultimately everything is his responsibility. If he had created things differently, then some of those decisions would...

Well, that's not what the bible says. It sounds like you're conveniently interpreting things to fit your argument to me.... How do you justify your position?

So, you're saying that not all things happen according to god's plan then? That's in direct conflict with what the bible says, how do you justify your position?

If he saw things were very good, knowing what would happen (as he's all knowing), then the current state of the world is what god intended it to be.

But the bible does not say god's plan is the overall long term picture, it says all things happen according to god's plan based on what he decided at the beginning. Ephesians 1:11 - All things are done according to God's plan and decision; and God chose us to be his own people in union with...

Which is irrelevant... If all happens according to god's plan, then whatever moves black decides to make will also be predetermined by the plan. The fact white will win is part of the plan, and all of the moves from both teams would also happen according to the plan. That's what "all happens...