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Darn! That is truly a shame! Such lousy scholarship!

Christos Anesti, Did the author site a source for this quote? I am intrigued and would love to see the quote in its context. Ambrose was a very insightful man. I recently found a quote of his that vindicates an insight that I came to some years back but was unable to find any...

EGW, I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Please come back here to post a link to your thread once you have started it.

Suede, Hmmm.. Can you spell out for me how exactly this would qualify as a false dilemma and a slippery slope?

Suede, What did Shiloh say which gave you that impression?

Thanks, Suede. Could I get you to expound on one thing? Can you give an example? Good luck with your move and your Astronomy and Philosophy lab/test. What Philosophy class are you taking?

Bumping this up for Suede. :)

Perhaps. Both of them presented texts to consider in light of their positions. Shiloh presented some passages which, while not necessarily suggesting eternal torment, certainly seem to undermine Universal Salvation. Likewise, Samuel Cripps presented some passages which might suggest that all...

In fairness to Cripps, his argument about God's love was entirely logical. However, I am still wondering if perhaps he is making God's love to be more important that, say, His justice. What do you feel were Cripps' strongest points? His weakest? What about Shiloh? What were his...

Are the two views mutually exclusive? I'm not sure I see that the course of the debate had much to do with how either one viewed the atonement. Can you go into more detail about what you're seeing?

Evergreen, In what sense were they both out of their league?

Good analysis, Suede. I don't think we saw much of what Cripps had to offer. Cripps had to continually redirect Shiloh to what Cripps had already written, seeing that Shiloh repeatedly talked past him. It seems to me that the debate was weak simply because Shiloh was a) repeatedly failing...

The debate has been completed. Comments are welcome.

The debate has been reopened so that Shiloh can post his final response. :thumbsup:

No, Shiloh did not post the final word that Mr. Cripps offered. After 10 days of contemplation, he must have decided that he didn't want to bother posting a response. I like the excuse they used.