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I'm waiting for a link or something.
Show me a doctor's certification that says otherwise, or admit you're making it up.
Link?
Clinton said release the files, as he's got nothing to hide. Trump tried to suppress the files.
Who? LOL
Bring it! Let the chips fall where they may.
I don't know. I'm not a secretary nor an admiral nor with military intelligence. I'm just an observer. And my observations usually don't come with the perfect solution to what I'm observing.
Steve, I know that you are a middle-aged Australian. But if I didn't, I would be forced to conclude that you were a 19-year-old homeschooled MAGA Trump superfan who went 5 years ago to the Capitol riot with his father (who stopped watching Fox News because it was "too woke" after firing Tucker Carlson) and is now aggrieved that his boss at the Piggly Wiggly won't let him wear his red MAGA cap while bagging groceries and who only recently learned that throughout his primary (home) schooling Pres. Obama had been ordering drone strikes in Afghanistan.
In the last few days (including since the post I am responding to) you have invoked "Russiagate", "Epstein", Trump's legal issues, "FBI investigations in to GOP members of Congress", Larry Summers, "Bill Clinton and Epstein", Soros, Fraud in minnesota, the "deplorables" comment, and so on and so forth with the MSM and leftists and "anti-Christian bias". (The last I can only assume is because some of us arguing with you or against the strikes are non-Christians.)
Not only is your idea of me warped but your idea and steroetypes of Trump supporters is also twisted and strange. My info and view comes from expert analysis and not MAGA.
I disagree because I am basing this off the politicians and expert political commentators. How is it deranged when its truth lol.
They are the ones who said it lol. Where do you think I got this. I have also been following this for years. I actually got caught in the first Iraqi war in Kwait. I think you underestimate my knowledge and experience.
But I do so I am more informed than you.
Which is real.
There you go. You jump into my posts and don't even know what your complaining about. It was in response to the one sided moral claims about the Narco boats.
They do when people are making bias moral claims. The perfect rebuff is to show how they have no moral ground to stand on and they have allowed the same and it was quite ok then. But not now because its Trump.
I have already given it. How can you not know about this. Like I said the biggest Fraud in US history under the watch of the Dems. So when you claim Trump lacks credibility then you have to apply the same to the Dems. Even moreso as they make Trumps look like childs play.
foxbaltimore.com
Do you honestly believe Biden was cognitively sharp and capable. You really have been brainwashed.
www.schmitt.senate.gov
theconversation.com
I gave them ewo posts back. Obama was one of the faceless men and those around him. He orchestrated the fake news to get Trump along with Hilliary and others.
Now he has released them.
Larry Summers was a Dem under Obama and was head of Harvard Uni until he had to resign for his connection to Epstien.
Ok thats good and I agree. Let the truth come out so we can finally have some transparency as to what has happened. I am sick of those in power taking advantage. If thats either part then so be it.
This is dishonest. Your posting a pic that has no context and may be innocent as being guilty. I gave you specific examples. Summers has resigned for his connection. I gave you fact based linked as support. Trump has done nothing wrong in this photo and its dishonest to imply otherwise.
Are you not middle-aged Australian?
I had to build the most extreme caricature of an ignorant MAGA Trump superfan to come close to your dogmatic and uninformed presentation on the current US president. I was certainly not stereotyping American Trump supporters.
Guests on "Lindell . tv" do not meet the normative definition of experts.
The other posters? I could believe that you take the worst of their ideas and layer on your own ignorance of American politics, culture, and history.
Which is not America. (My HS classmates also got stuck fighting that war.)
Than me wasn't the issue. It was your knowledge relative to the other conservative posters. I'd still put up their understanding of American reality over you any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Real or not, it is irrelevant to the thread and THAT was my point.
You were whingeing about anti-Christian bias related to criticism of Trump's policy/action which is rather silly as Trump is at best a nominal Christian. (And I understand the moral depravity of your position on narco boat killings.)
Are the Aussie commentators really that bad? (or just the ones on the "Fox News" of Australia.) (I am well aware that Ruprect Murdock is Australia's worst crime against America.)
But how can you *know* what any poster's position on drone strikes by Obama or whatever was? You certainly don't know mine. Now please, let's go back to discussing the news item on the current sequence of drone strikes on drug boats off the coast of Venezuela
Yes and thats part of the problem. You assume certain demographiscs with certain beliefs and positions. Classic IP.
What exactly about what I said was dogmatic.
What exactly was said that was not in line with the expert opinion. See this is where my lack of knowing what sources are stereotyped themselves. I just go by the content of what was said. If that happens to be a source you don't like thats not my problem.
No not the other posters but the experts. That is where I am getting my information. Its not the worse or any subjective qualification. Its the facts.
The point is you don't have to be an American to know American politics. You can know American politics from Americans who know American politics and then you use your senses to take that info in. I do understand english and what words mean lol.
Most of this is not about American or Australia or any nations politics. Its plain right and wrong. The moral truth, commonsense, reality, whatever you want to call it.
And my point was that this was a sub thread over moral hypocracy. About the same people that are morally outraged have double standards and thus bias.
I was not making a case for Trump being a Christian or that this is about Christ v non or Dems v Rep or Left v Right or anti immigration or anything.
You can't help yourself can you. Doubling down now on IP. Us Aussies must be dumb, they could not possibly know anything. That bad old Fox News.
It does not matter because everyone will pick a side and both sides are as bad as the other lol. But usually when people are so fixated on the opposition [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] political.
If someone states that what happened is X and this "should not" have happened as its morally wrong. Then they are declaring their position. We can read a lot from the actual words that come out of peoples mouths lol. Its the most direct way of knowing what they think and believe.
Actually I am going to bow out. I don't see any point and I have said all I can say on the issue. It will be a continual back and forth of peoples subjective moral beliefs on the situation without the clear facts. Which are yet to come out.
Venezuela should have the wherewithal to do that, yes Maduro should fight hard to ensure Venezuelan terrorists get to poison the USA humans with drugs that make money which keeps cartels funded --like it was under the Biden Admin. Yes indeed!
Not even close.
Nothing to do with Biden or the Dems here. You're stretching for a connection.
Dems didn't do this. Trump was convicted of fraud.
Never happened. He out-negotiated multiple countries in two different trilateral summits during his term.
The truth came out about Trumps fraud, rape, and collusion, and you keep denying it.
Obama didn't orchestrate anything fake. Nobody forced Trump to commit criminal acts.
Identified? Everybody knows who he is. The question is, was he involved children like Trump and Epstein? No, he just rode in a plane. That's why Clinton said to release the files, because he's got nothing to hide.
I know who he is, but he's a minor character and not even as remotely connected as Trump.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
No you didn't.
Nobody cares about Summers. They care about Trump's involvement with Epstein, which is why Trump has been suppressing the files.
What narcos? When were they convicted of any crime whatsoever?
Killing someone who is shipwrecked, no matter who they are, is a crime.
This is great idea info. Thanks for sharing!The US military has not previously directly attacked drug operations. However, the military has provided intelligence support to Latin American militaries:
"In the 1990s, the U.S. military assisted Colombian and Peruvian antidrug law enforcement activities by sharing information about civilian flights suspected of carrying drugs — like radar data and communications intercepts. But after those governments started shooting down such planes, the Clinton administration in 1994 halted the assistance for months.
The Office of Legal Counsel produced an opinion saying that military officers who provided such information while knowing it would be used to summarily shoot down those aircraft could be putting themselves at risk of later prosecution. Congress eventually modified U.S. law to permit such assistance.
And the Navy has long participated in intercepting vessels in international waters that are suspected of smuggling drugs toward the United States. But naval ships typically do so as a law enforcement operation, working under the command of a U.S. Coast Guard officer. Under an 1878 law called the Posse Comitatus Act, it is generally illegal to use the military to perform law enforcement functions."
....and such operations can lead to misidentifcation and inocent civilians dying:
"On 20 April 2001, the Peruvian Air Force (FAP) shot down a civilian floatplane, killing American Christian missionary Veronica "Roni" Bowers and her infant daughter Charity.[1]
While flying into the Loreto Region of Peru, Bowers, her daughter Charity, husband Jim, and six-year-old son Cory were being followed by a United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) observation plane. The Peruvian Air Force was operating as part of the Air Bridge Denial Program. The CIA did not attempt to identify the tail number of the church-owned plane per procedure."
2001 Peru Cessna 185 shootdown - Wikipedia
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Forget it. The fact is that two helpless men were killed after they survived the destruction of their boat. That is a fact, even the Trump administration cannot honestly deny it. The conservative Christian position (and yours) seems to be that it was a righteous act. I put it to you that you cannot reconcile that position with the Gospel of Christ. You have nothing to offer us except moral bankruptcy and we don't have to have the "moral high ground" to tell you so.
