Ellen White on the mark of the beast for those that worship on Sunday

[Hentenza]

The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Here are her writings:

Reception of Mark of the Beast Future—The change of the Sabbath is the sign or mark of the authority of the Romish church. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false sabbath in the place of the true, are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. The mark of the beast is the papal sabbath, which has been accepted by the world in the place of the day of God’s appointment. Ev 234.1
No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2
With rapid steps we are approaching this period. When Protestant churches shall unite with the secular power to sustain a false religion, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution, then will the papal sabbath be enforced by the combined authority of church and state. There will be a national apostasy, which will end only in national ruin.—Manuscript 51, 1899. Ev 235.1
When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day,” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897. Ev 235.2
As a Result of Disregard of Light—God has given men the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them, as a test of their loyalty. Those who, after the light regarding God’s law comes to them, continue to disobey and exalt human laws above the law of God in the great crisis before us will receive the mark of the beast.—Letter 98, 1900. Ev 235.3
Caution in Presenting the Sunday Question—[We are] not to provoke those who have accepted this spurious sabbath, an institution of the Papacy in the place of God’s holy Sabbath. Their not having the Bible arguments in their favor makes them all the more angry and determined to supply the place of arguments that are wanting in the Word of God by the power of their might. The force of persecution follows the steps of the dragon. Therefore great care should be exercised to give no provocation.—Letter 55, 1886. Ev 235.4
Let the Truth Do the Cutting—Satan’s efforts against the advocates of the truth will wax more bitter and determined to the very close of time. As in Christ’s day the chief priests and rulers stirred up the people against Him, so today the religious leaders will excite bitterness and prejudice against the truth for this time. The people will be led to acts of violence and opposition which they would never have thought of had they not been imbued with the animosity of professed Christians against the truth. Ev 236.1
And what course shall the advocates of truth pursue? They have the unchangeable, eternal Word of God, and they should reveal the fact that they have the truth as it is in Jesus. Their words must not be rugged and sharp. In their presentation of truth they must manifest the love and meekness and gentleness of Christ. Let the truth do the cutting; the Word of God is as a sharp, two-edged sword, and will cut its way to the heart. Those who know that they have the truth should not, by the use of harsh and severe expressions, give Satan one chance to misinterpret their spirit.—The Review and Herald, October 14, 1902. Ev 236.2
A Call to Enlighten the Masses—I have been shown that Satan is stealing a march upon us. The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom, religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world. Ev 236.3
Our time for work is limited, and God calls us as ministers and people to be minutemen. Teachers as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves must come to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty. There are many who do not understand the prophecies relating to these days, and they must be enlightened.—Letter 1, 1875. Ev 237.1

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[Danthemailman]

The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Here are her writings:

Reception of Mark of the Beast Future—The change of the Sabbath is the sign or mark of the authority of the Romish church. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false sabbath in the place of the true, are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. The mark of the beast is the papal sabbath, which has been accepted by the world in the place of the day of God’s appointment. Ev 234.1
No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2
With rapid steps we are approaching this period. When Protestant churches shall unite with the secular power to sustain a false religion, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution, then will the papal sabbath be enforced by the combined authority of church and state. There will be a national apostasy, which will end only in national ruin.—Manuscript 51, 1899. Ev 235.1
When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day,” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897. Ev 235.2
As a Result of Disregard of Light—God has given men the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them, as a test of their loyalty. Those who, after the light regarding God’s law comes to them, continue to disobey and exalt human laws above the law of God in the great crisis before us will receive the mark of the beast.—Letter 98, 1900. Ev 235.3
Caution in Presenting the Sunday Question—[We are] not to provoke those who have accepted this spurious sabbath, an institution of the Papacy in the place of God’s holy Sabbath. Their not having the Bible arguments in their favor makes them all the more angry and determined to supply the place of arguments that are wanting in the Word of God by the power of their might. The force of persecution follows the steps of the dragon. Therefore great care should be exercised to give no provocation.—Letter 55, 1886. Ev 235.4
Let the Truth Do the Cutting—Satan’s efforts against the advocates of the truth will wax more bitter and determined to the very close of time. As in Christ’s day the chief priests and rulers stirred up the people against Him, so today the religious leaders will excite bitterness and prejudice against the truth for this time. The people will be led to acts of violence and opposition which they would never have thought of had they not been imbued with the animosity of professed Christians against the truth. Ev 236.1
And what course shall the advocates of truth pursue? They have the unchangeable, eternal Word of God, and they should reveal the fact that they have the truth as it is in Jesus. Their words must not be rugged and sharp. In their presentation of truth they must manifest the love and meekness and gentleness of Christ. Let the truth do the cutting; the Word of God is as a sharp, two-edged sword, and will cut its way to the heart. Those who know that they have the truth should not, by the use of harsh and severe expressions, give Satan one chance to misinterpret their spirit.—The Review and Herald, October 14, 1902. Ev 236.2
A Call to Enlighten the Masses—I have been shown that Satan is stealing a march upon us. The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom, religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world. Ev 236.3
Our time for work is limited, and God calls us as ministers and people to be minutemen. Teachers as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves must come to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty. There are many who do not understand the prophecies relating to these days, and they must be enlightened.—Letter 1, 1875. Ev 237.1

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Absolutely not and what a ludicrous teaching.

Mark of the Beast

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[SabbathBlessings]

Breaking the Sabbath is what kept the Israelites from entering into their promise land of rest in Canaan. We are clearly told not to follow in their same path of disobedience. Heb 4:11

Eze 20: 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’

But instead of placing the Word of God above anything else what did they do?

Heb4:5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

What did they disobey? God said hallow My Sabbaths....what did they do instead...

Eze 20:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Eze 20:15 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

God relates breaking the Sabbath to idol worship. Replacing what God asks with a will of another. His sign/seal of authority Eze20:20 with another.

Jesus defined what false worship is- laying aside the commandment of God as to say they are not for me, making the word of God of no effect. Jesus used the commandment of God and the word of God interchangeable. Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13

In the end, the battle is over our worship. Most people worship either on Sunday or Saturday. Only one of these days comes with the power of God's sanctification Gen2:3 Eze 20:12 and God's blessings Isa59:2 Exo20:11 and only God can sanctity a day and sanctify us, both God tied with the Sabbath and God claimed in His own Words the Sabbath is My holy day, Isa58:13 but most has chosen something else.

A beast is a Kingdom or government agency and only the beast and can tell us what is its mark and they did. It happens to be the opposite of what God’s seal is. Eze20:12 Eze20:20 Exo20:11

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

In the end, we will either worship the beast or stay faithful to God and whoever we obey, is who we serve or worship Rom6:16

Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” Direct quote Exo20:11

8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon[f] is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”

9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

The only antidote is staying faithful to God and of course the commandments of God are His version, not what man edited we were warned about Dan7:25.

Rev 14:12 Here is the [g]patience of the saints; here[h] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

No one has the mark of the beast yet, because there is not a law preventing anyone to keep the Sabbath. But there is talk about a national Sunday law and when we are forced to choose Sunday, a tradition of man over keeping one of God's commandments that's when everything changes. Right now most of the government wants an enforced National Sunday law, they believe there should be no separation between church and state. God never forced anyone to worship Him, this is not coming from God, its always been a choice, if we love Jesus we keep His commandments John14:15 when its forced its not love.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Here are her writings:

Reception of Mark of the Beast Future—The change of the Sabbath is the sign or mark of the authority of the Romish church. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false sabbath in the place of the true, are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. The mark of the beast is the papal sabbath, which has been accepted by the world in the place of the day of God’s appointment. Ev 234.1
No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2
With rapid steps we are approaching this period. When Protestant churches shall unite with the secular power to sustain a false religion, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution, then will the papal sabbath be enforced by the combined authority of church and state. There will be a national apostasy, which will end only in national ruin.—Manuscript 51, 1899. Ev 235.1
When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day,” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897. Ev 235.2
As a Result of Disregard of Light—God has given men the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them, as a test of their loyalty. Those who, after the light regarding God’s law comes to them, continue to disobey and exalt human laws above the law of God in the great crisis before us will receive the mark of the beast.—Letter 98, 1900. Ev 235.3
Caution in Presenting the Sunday Question—[We are] not to provoke those who have accepted this spurious sabbath, an institution of the Papacy in the place of God’s holy Sabbath. Their not having the Bible arguments in their favor makes them all the more angry and determined to supply the place of arguments that are wanting in the Word of God by the power of their might. The force of persecution follows the steps of the dragon. Therefore great care should be exercised to give no provocation.—Letter 55, 1886. Ev 235.4
Let the Truth Do the Cutting—Satan’s efforts against the advocates of the truth will wax more bitter and determined to the very close of time. As in Christ’s day the chief priests and rulers stirred up the people against Him, so today the religious leaders will excite bitterness and prejudice against the truth for this time. The people will be led to acts of violence and opposition which they would never have thought of had they not been imbued with the animosity of professed Christians against the truth. Ev 236.1
And what course shall the advocates of truth pursue? They have the unchangeable, eternal Word of God, and they should reveal the fact that they have the truth as it is in Jesus. Their words must not be rugged and sharp. In their presentation of truth they must manifest the love and meekness and gentleness of Christ. Let the truth do the cutting; the Word of God is as a sharp, two-edged sword, and will cut its way to the heart. Those who know that they have the truth should not, by the use of harsh and severe expressions, give Satan one chance to misinterpret their spirit.—The Review and Herald, October 14, 1902. Ev 236.2
A Call to Enlighten the Masses—I have been shown that Satan is stealing a march upon us. The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom, religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world. Ev 236.3
Our time for work is limited, and God calls us as ministers and people to be minutemen. Teachers as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves must come to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty. There are many who do not understand the prophecies relating to these days, and they must be enlightened.—Letter 1, 1875. Ev 237.1

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Is Ellen White correct? Are those that worship our Lord on Sunday doomed to receive the mark of the beast?

It is truly exhausting to hear insistent claims across denominations that observing the Jewish Sabbath remains a salvation issue. Respecting the conviction of others, my soul finds peace not in a day, but in every day alike, the finality of the New Covenant established by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This observance is lifted by the truth that Christ is the culmination of the Law for righteousness (Romans 10:4), rendering this ordinance fulfiled in Him. Scripture clearly states that such days are a shadow but the substance is of Christ and in Him, we find our eternal rest. Let those who observe the Sabbath observe it for God and let those who observe it everyday, likewise for God.
Blessings

 

[ChubbyCherub]

More confusion and more prayer required for me, trying to wrap my head around our ability/inability/requirement to honor the Sabbath and/or not eat pork or all of the other things that our church does not teach nor uphold because a) the law of the land changed it for whatever reason in the year 'dot' and I have no idea about it because I was not born in the year 'dot' and b) some suppose that Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law and, in doing so, made the old law invalid c) suggesting that the old law is invalid is some sort of heresy because Jesus came to fulfill the law and not abolish it (despite Paul saying that only slaves were bound to the law and Christ is freedom (paraphrased, please cite scripture if you know it off the top of your head) d) some saying Paul had no authority to say what he said and do what he did and we should only follow Jesus but how we follow him ...well ... see point b) and c) above..

And so, it makes me feel like believing in Christ, as the Savior of us all, the Son of God, who died for our sins doesn't matter because we are not upholding the old law. Or, if we do, we are not upholding Christ because we can't do the two things together. This is contrary to what Jesus Christ said gave us salvation so where do we go from here?

Where are our churches so we can learn correctly? Didn't Jesus know how fractured we'd be? Without guidance from those who have had the 'law' passed down from the year 'dot' to teach us, translate for us, instruct us in what is/isn't required, we're left to the church and, yet, the church is of man?

If I read the bible one way, someone else reads it another way........

I'm exasperated.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

More confusion and more prayer required for me,

Yes, always without ceasing.

trying to wrap my head around our ability/inability/requirement to honor the Sabbath and/or not eat pork or all of the other things that our church does not teach nor uphold because a) the law of the land changed it for whatever reason in the year 'dot' and I have no idea about it because I was not born in the year 'dot' and b) some suppose that Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law and, in doing so, made the old law invalid c) suggesting that the old law is invalid is some sort of heresy because Jesus came to fulfill the law and not abolish it (despite Paul saying that only slaves were bound to the law and Christ is freedom (paraphrased, please cite scripture if you know it off the top of your head) d) some saying Paul had no authority to say what he said and do what he did and we should only follow Jesus but how we follow him ...well ... see point b) and c) above..

And so, it makes me feel like believing in Christ, as the Savior of us all, the Son of God, who died for our sins doesn't matter because we are not upholding the old law. Or, if we do, we are not upholding Christ because we can't do the two things together. This is contrary to what Jesus Christ said gave us salvation so where do we go from here?

Where are our churches so we can learn correctly? Didn't Jesus know how fractured we'd be? Without guidance from those who have had the 'law' passed down from the year 'dot' to teach us, translate for us, instruct us in what is/isn't required, we're left to the church and, yet, the church is of man?

If I read the bible one way, someone else reads it another way........

I'm exasperated.

This should be east to solve, by prayerfully studying our Bibles.

Where in our Bibles does it say the following?

To keep Sunday holy?
That Sunday is a commandment of God written by God Himself?
Where did the God of the Bible ever sanctify the first day
Where did God say keeping the first day is a sign of His sanctification.
Where did God bless man, if we keep the first day holy?
Where did God in His own words say the first day is My holy day, the holy day of the Lord.
Where in the Bible did Jesus say I am Lord of the first day made for man?
Where in the Bible did Jesus keep every Sunday going to church where everyone met reading the Bible?
Where in the Scriptures did the apostles keep every first day and said they do so because of the resurrection?
Where did God say the first day continues for worship in the New Heaven and New Earth?
Where did Jesus ever say we do not need to keep the Sabbath commandment? Or that He became the Sabbath commandment so we do not need to keep?

Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, not man. Mat4:4 Read every Sabbath verse in the Bible most proceeding directly from the mouth of God, always telling us to keep, never telling us not to but the opposite.

Man has made up a whole doctrine not based on Scripture, so instead spend all their time attacking the Testimony of God Exo31:18 Deut4:13, the Holy Day of the Lord thus saith the Lord Isa58:13 as if God made a mistake on the commandment He blessed, sanctified and asked us to Remember. They take Scriptures of Paul that he does not say, like pick the day you want to keep holy in Rom14 as if 1 man is above God and 2 not looking at the context, he is clearly speaking of mans opinions not debating if one should or should not keep one of God's personally written commandments, why the Sabbath is not mentioned once in this chapter, but people add what's not there despite Pro30:6. If God was going to remove one of His commandments, His own Testimony, that Jesus said in His own Words would not end Mat24:20 Isa66:22-23 Mat5:18-19 Psa89:34, it would be written out just as plainly as God gave it. Its what this controversy is about our obedience and loyalty to God or to another.

Jesus said the path is narrow. Mat7:13-14 when we take the testimony of man, over the Testimony of God Exo31:18 Deut4:13, written by God Himself and lay it aside Mark 7:7-13 Mat15:3-14 as if to say, no that's not for me, its showing by our actions where our loyalty is.

Regarding unclean and clean foods I think Jesus was clear on this matter at His Second Coming and clear man cannot sanctify themselves, Isa66:17 we need God Eze20:12 Eze20:20

And so, it makes me feel like believing in Christ, as the Savior of us all, the Son of God, who died for our sins doesn't matter because we are not upholding the old law. Or, if we do, we are not upholding Christ because we can't do the two things together. This is contrary to what Jesus Christ said gave us salvation so where do we go from here?

Man has lowered the standard of what faith means, not God. How do we show faith in Jesus but not do what He asks if we love Him. What did Jesus say on this matter?

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Jesus came to save us from sin Mat1:21 not save us in sin Heb10:26-30 we need a transformation in Christ changing our old ways walking a new path in Christ. Rom6:1-4. There was nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments- it was written by the Holy Spirit its perfect Psa19:7 and holy, just and good. Rom7:12 the issue has always been the hardened heart of man. Jesus came to magnify His laws Isa42:21 not destroy Mat5:17 and going from stone to being written in our hearts is just that, why the NC is not established on all new laws as people teach, they still have God's laws Heb8:10 that only He can define, not man, written in the heart but now established on better promises. Heb8:6. God is willing to help us keep His commandments through our love John14:15-18 If we look at it logically does God really want us to worship other gods, or vain His holy name or steal from our neighbor or lie and be sinners? Its really about 1 commandment- the Sabbath as if God made a mistake when He placed this commandment with the other 9 when this is the only commandment that reveals the God we are to worship Exo20:11 in commandments 1-3 . Ironically its the comamndment where God placed His seal Exo20:11 and said when keeping its a sign between God and man Eze20:20 a sign of His sanctification Eze20:12 and blesses man when keeping Isa59:2 how we join ourselves to Him and serve Him Isa56:6 without God's blessings and sanctification we really are nothing, its why sadly the other spirit has attacked this commandment so much and in the end, its not about just a day, its about where our loyalty lies.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

some saying Paul had no authority to say what he said and do what he did and we should only follow Jesus but how we follow him

This is precisely why this continually comes up within the church. There are some who believe Pauline teachings are uninspired. It is completely understandable to focus deeply on Jesus’s direct words, yet for those who do, neglecting or twisting Paul’s inspired letters can unintentionally lead to an incomplete and unbalanced understanding of the New Testament's unified message.

 

[Hentenza]

More confusion and more prayer required for me, trying to wrap my head around our ability/inability/requirement to honor the Sabbath and/or not eat pork or all of the other things that our church does not teach nor uphold because a) the law of the land changed it for whatever reason in the year 'dot' and I have no idea about it because I was not born in the year 'dot' and b) some suppose that Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law and, in doing so, made the old law invalid c) suggesting that the old law is invalid is some sort of heresy because Jesus came to fulfill the law and not abolish it (despite Paul saying that only slaves were bound to the law and Christ is freedom (paraphrased, please cite scripture if you know it off the top of your head) d) some saying Paul had no authority to say what he said and do what he did and we should only follow Jesus but how we follow him ...well ... see point b) and c) above..

And so, it makes me feel like believing in Christ, as the Savior of us all, the Son of God, who died for our sins doesn't matter because we are not upholding the old law. Or, if we do, we are not upholding Christ because we can't do the two things together. This is contrary to what Jesus Christ said gave us salvation so where do we go from here?

Where are our churches so we can learn correctly? Didn't Jesus know how fractured we'd be? Without guidance from those who have had the 'law' passed down from the year 'dot' to teach us, translate for us, instruct us in what is/isn't required, we're left to the church and, yet, the church is of man?

If I read the bible one way, someone else reads it another way........

I'm exasperated.

My brother there is only one church that teaches this unbiblical doctrine, the SDA. No other church teaches this nonsense. The gospel of good news is sufficient for salvation. The old law was not invalidated but fulfilled. Fulfilled means to complete not to invalidate. The Mosaic law was given TO Israel at Sinai and no one was able to keep it perfectly until Christ. The law never had a
the means for repentance and that is the result of Jesus sacrifice, justification. Read Galatians.

BTW- Col. 2:16 teaches that no one can judge you for keeping or not keeping the sabbath but the interpretation of this verse is twisted by the SDA. Also, since the law was given to just Israel the food laws never applied to you or the gentile church. In fact, the apostles during council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) determined exactly that.

If you want to keep the sabbath then by all means go right ahead. God deserves worship every day of the week not just on Saturday which is why Heb. 4 teaches that TODAY is the day. I don’t see how God would actually condemn believing Christians just because they worship on a Sunday instead of a Saturday. The very thought is just absurd.

Don’t let the unbiblical doctrines of the SDA church confuse you. Remember what Jesus said about legalism. It didn’t go very well for the Pharisees did it? Read scripture, talk to your pastor, and spend time in prayer.

 

[Hentenza]

Breaking the Sabbath is what kept the Israelites from entering into their promise land of rest in Canaan. We are clearly told not to follow in their same path of disobedience. Heb 4:11

Nonsense. You need to read Deut. 1.

Here I’ll post it for you so that others here can clearly see your error. It was disobedience because they did not trust God and had absolutely nothing to do with the sabbath,

““Then we set out from Horeb, and went through all that great and terrible wilderness that you saw on the way to the hill country of the Amorites, just as the Lord our God had commanded us; and we came to Kadesh-barnea. And I said to you, ‘You have come to the hill country of the Amorites, which the Lord our God is about to give us. See, the Lord your God has placed the land before you; go up, take possession, just as the Lord, the God of your fathers, has spoken to you. Do not fear or be dismayed.’ “Then all of you approached me and said, ‘Let us send men ahead of us, so that they may spy out the land for us, and bring back to us word of the way by which we should go up, and the cities which we should enter.’ The plan pleased me, and I took twelve of your men, one man for each tribe. Then they turned and went up into the hill country, and came to the Valley of Eshcol, and spied it out. And they took some of the fruit of the land in their hands and brought it down to us. They also brought us back a report and said, ‘The land that the Lord our God is about to give us is good.’ “Yet you were unwilling to go up; instead you rebelled against the command of the Lord your God; and you grumbled in your tents and said, ‘Because the Lord hates us, He has brought us out of the land of Egypt, to hand us over to the Amorites to destroy us. Where can we go up? Our brothers have made our hearts melt, by saying, “The people are bigger and taller than we; the cities are large and fortified up to heaven. And besides, we saw the sons of the Anakim there.” ’ But I said to you, ‘Do not be terrified, nor fear them. The Lord your God, who goes before you, will Himself fight for you, just as He did for you in Egypt before your eyes, and in the wilderness where you saw how the Lord your God carried you, just as a man carries his son, on all of the road which you have walked until you came to this place.’ Yet in spite of all this, you did not trust the Lord your God, who goes before you on your way, to seek out a place for you to make camp, in the fire by night to show you the way by which you should go, and in the cloud by day. “Then the Lord heard the sound of your words, and He was angry and swore an oath, saying, ‘Not one of these men, this evil generation, shall see the good land which I swore to give your fathers,”
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“Then we set out from Horeb, and went through all that great and terrible wilderness that you saw on the way to the hill country of the Amorites, just as the LORD our God had commanded us; and we came

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Where in the verses above does it even mention the sabbath?

BTW- you are still to provide a verse that teaches that anyone kept the sabbath before Moses. I’ve been asking but apparently you are either reluctant to post one or you have no verse to post in which case your house of cards comes tumbling down.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Nonsense. You need to read Deut. 1.

Here I’ll post it for you so that others here can clearly see your error. It was disobedience because they did not trust God and had absolutely nothing to do with the sabbath,

““Then we set out from Horeb, and went through all that great and terrible wilderness that you saw on the way to the hill country of the Amorites, just as the Lord our God had commanded us; and we came to Kadesh-barnea. And I said to you, ‘You have come to the hill country of the Amorites, which the Lord our God is about to give us. See, the Lord your God has placed the land before you; go up, take possession, just as the Lord, the God of your fathers, has spoken to you. Do not fear or be dismayed.’ “Then all of you approached me and said, ‘Let us send men ahead of us, so that they may spy out the land for us, and bring back to us word of the way by which we should go up, and the cities which we should enter.’ The plan pleased me, and I took twelve of your men, one man for each tribe. Then they turned and went up into the hill country, and came to the Valley of Eshcol, and spied it out. And they took some of the fruit of the land in their hands and brought it down to us. They also brought us back a report and said, ‘The land that the Lord our God is about to give us is good.’ “Yet you were unwilling to go up; instead you rebelled against the command of the Lord your God; and you grumbled in your tents and said, ‘Because the Lord hates us, He has brought us out of the land of Egypt, to hand us over to the Amorites to destroy us. Where can we go up? Our brothers have made our hearts melt, by saying, “The people are bigger and taller than we; the cities are large and fortified up to heaven. And besides, we saw the sons of the Anakim there.” ’ But I said to you, ‘Do not be terrified, nor fear them. The Lord your God, who goes before you, will Himself fight for you, just as He did for you in Egypt before your eyes, and in the wilderness where you saw how the Lord your God carried you, just as a man carries his son, on all of the road which you have walked until you came to this place.’ Yet in spite of all this, you did not trust the Lord your God, who goes before you on your way, to seek out a place for you to make camp, in the fire by night to show you the way by which you should go, and in the cloud by day. “Then the Lord heard the sound of your words, and He was angry and swore an oath, saying, ‘Not one of these men, this evil generation, shall see the good land which I swore to give your fathers,”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭1‬:‭19‬-‭35‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

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“Then we set out from Horeb, and went through all that great and terrible wilderness that you saw on the way to the hill country of the Amorites, just as the LORD our God had commanded us; and we came

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Where in the verses above does it even mention the sabbath?

BTW- you are still to provide a verse that teaches that anyone kept the sabbath before Moses. I’ve been asking but apparently you are either reluctant to post one or you have no verse to post in which case your house of cards comes tumbling down.

Are we just to ignore the reason that God said verbatim? The Bible is based on repeat and enlarge. Scripture doesn't delete Scripture, it expands on it. Both are the same event, God gives Ezekiel a lot more details. David spoke of it too, that what the Scriptures do they repeat and enlarge (give more detail) not choose which version of events we agree with and than delete the other one as if its not in our Bibles, when its the same event just expanded on and in this case with a thus saith the Lord.


Eze 20:15 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

This is precisely why this continually comes up within the church. There are some who believe Pauline teachings are uninspired. It is completely understandable to focus deeply on Jesus’s direct words, yet for those who do, neglecting or twisting Paul’s inspired letters can unintentionally lead to an incomplete and unbalanced understanding of the New Testament's unified message.

Especially when one is twisting Paul's words against Jesus as if his teachings trumps what Jesus said.

I don't know of anyone who says Paul's teachings are uninspired, but even in the inspired word of God we are told plainly many twist Paul's writings as they do the rest of Scripture to their own destruction. If one is going to reconcile Scripture, should we reconcile Jesus to Paul who has this warning or Paul to Jesus.

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Paul came after Jesus ratified His covenant, nothing can be changed. Paul was commissioned to spread the gospel, not change God's times and laws Dan7:25 or go against what Jesus taught and lived as our example.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

don't know of anyone who says Paul's teachings are uninspired,

A quick Google search will tell you.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

A quick Google search will tell you.

His teachings our very much inspired, just sadly gravely misunderstood as told in the inspired Scriptures 2Peter 3:15-16

 

[Hentenza]

Are we just to ignore the reason that God said verbatim? The Bible is based on repeat and enlarge. Scripture doesn't delete Scripture.

I don’t ignore scripture but I reject YOUR and your church’s interpretation. Reading pet doctrines into scripture will always result in error.

Eze 20:15 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Perfect example. Thanks for posting it. I just posted Deut. 1:19-35 which depicts the story of why the Israelites did not enter the promise land initially and it did not include a single instance of the sabbath but you post Ezekiel to “refute” Deuteronomy. You just created tension where there should not be any. You are pitting the word of God against the word of God. Do you not know that sabbaths can mean many sabbaths and festivals? Isn’t that your argument against Col. 2:16? You can’t even keep your argument straight.

 

[Hentenza]

His teachings our very much inspired, just sadly gravely misunderstood as told in the inspired Scriptures 2Peter 3:15-16

Because Paul destroys your arguments and your church’s teachings. You even told me in a previous post that you did not like Paul.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I don’t ignore scripture but I reject YOUR and your church’s interpretation. Reading pet doctrines into scripture will always result in error.

Perfect example. Thanks for posting it. I just posted Deut. 1:19-35 which depicts the story of why the Israelites did not enter the promise land initially and it did not include a single instance of the sabbath but you post Ezekiel to “refute” Deuteronomy. You just created tension where there should not be any. You are pitting the word of God against the word of God. Do you not know that sabbaths can mean many sabbaths and festivals? Isn’t that your argument against Col. 2:16? You can’t even keep your argument straight.

Seriously, so what God told Ezekiel is wrong, I didn't interpret the Scriptures, it is what God plainly said verbatim and gave the reason plainly. Scriptures do not delete Scriptures they expand on them.

I already see your interpretation of Scriptures

God deserves worship every day of the week not just on Saturday which is why Heb. 4 teaches that TODAY is the day.

But if we actually look at the context does it say Today is the day we worship God and not just worship on the Sabbath?

Heb 4:7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

It says plainly today if we hear His voice do not harden our hearts and is quoting King David

What are we not supposed today is harden our hearts if we hear His voice, not rebel against God just like those who did in the wilderness. Eze20:13 Eze 20:16

Psa 95:7 Today, if you will hear His voice:
8 “Do not harden your hearts, as in the [c]rebellion,
As in the day of [d]trial in the wilderness,
9 When your fathers tested Me;
They tried Me, though they saw My work.
10 For forty years I was [e]grieved with that generation,
And said, ‘It is a people who go astray in their hearts,
And they do not know My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

BTW- Col. 2:16 teaches that no one can judge you for keeping or not keeping the sabbath but the interpretation of this verse is twisted by the SDA. Also, since the law was given to just Israel the food laws never applied to you or the gentile church. In fact, the apostles during council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) determined exactly that.
In fact, the apostles during council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) determined exactly that.

Yet in the council of Jerusalem they were keeping every Sabbath already shown previously with the Gentiles Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 and future Acts 18:4

Acts 15: 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

It certainly is not saying do not keep the Sabbath.

Col2:16 the context starts at verse 14. Something contrary and against man. Jesus in His own words said the Sabbaths was made for man Mark2:27 what Jesus makes for man is not contrary and against. God blesses mans when keeping the Sabbath Isa 59:2 and its a sign of His sanctification Eze20:12, when did that become contrary and against. Obviously people are using Paul's writings out of context.

I can't reason with someone who says what God said verbatim is incorrect. Eze20:16 This will all get sorted out in God's own time.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You even told me in a previous post that you did not like Paul.

Show my post to me where I ever said this. If you can't I would recommend repenting for false testimony against another.

 

[Hentenza]

Seriously, so what God told Ezekiel is wrong, I didn't interpret the Scriptures, it is what God plainly said verbatim and gave the reason plainly. Scriptures do not delete Scriptures they expand on them.

So what God said in Deut. 1 is wrong? And again, Sabbaths is plural in that verse so it doesn’t necessarily mean the weekly sabbath. You can’t be dogmatic about a verse where there could be optional definitions.

I already see your interpretation of Scriptures

You don’t because I don’t read my pet doctrine into the verses like you do.

But if we actually look at the context does it say Today is the day we worship God and not just worship on the Sabbath?

Heb 4:7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

It says plainly today if we hear His voice do not harden our hearts and is quoting King David

What are we not supposed to do is harden our hearts today

However, you are verse mining and not taking into account the actual context which begins in chapter 3.

“For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, “As I swore in My anger, They certainly shall not enter My rest,” although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; and again in this passage, “They certainly shall not enter My rest.” Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,”
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Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience

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Notice that in verse 3 the writer is talking about “that” rest which refers to the believers rest from verse 1. He is contrasting the believers rest with the sabbath rest.

“Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4‬:‭6‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

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Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience

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Look at the therefore. This is a conclusion from the first 5 verses of this chapter. These have been preached the gospel which had not been preached to those that Joshua (not Christ) brought into the promise land. The people that had the gospel preached to are the converted Jews that continue to try to force the law on the Christian church. This is the disobedience and the writer’s argument in the first 3 chapters of Hebrews.

Yet in the council of Jerusalem they were keeping every Sabbath already shown previously with the Gentiles Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 and future Acts 18:4

Acts 15: 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Nope. Once again you are verse mining.

“But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to keep the Law of Moses.””
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But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to keep the Law of Moses.”

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And,

“After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Since this is the case, why are you putting God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our forefathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.””
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After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gosp

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No yoke if the law, including sabbath keeping, for the gentiles. In fact, no one has been able to bear the yoke of the law.

It certainly is not saying do not keep the Sabbath.

Col2:16 the context starts at verse 14. Something contrary and against man. Jesus in His own words said the Sabbaths was made for man Mark2:27 what Jesus makes for man is not contrary and against. God blesses mans when keeping the Sabbath Isa 59:2 and its a sign of His sanctification Eze20:12, when did that become contrary and against. Obviously people are using Paul's writings out of context.

Nonsense. You are injecting Mark 2:27 into Col. 2:16 even though there is no relation. This is called reading your pet doctrine into the verses.

I can't reason with someone who says what God said verbatim is incorrect. Eze20:16 This will all get sorted out in God's own time.

Do you actually believe the writings of Ellen White that all that worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and reject the seal of God? It’s a yes or no question so no commentary necessary.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Here are her writings:

Reception of Mark of the Beast Future—The change of the Sabbath is the sign or mark of the authority of the Romish church. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false sabbath in the place of the true, are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. The mark of the beast is the papal sabbath, which has been accepted by the world in the place of the day of God’s appointment. Ev 234.1
No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2
With rapid steps we are approaching this period. When Protestant churches shall unite with the secular power to sustain a false religion, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution, then will the papal sabbath be enforced by the combined authority of church and state. There will be a national apostasy, which will end only in national ruin.—Manuscript 51, 1899. Ev 235.1
When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day,” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897. Ev 235.2
As a Result of Disregard of Light—God has given men the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them, as a test of their loyalty. Those who, after the light regarding God’s law comes to them, continue to disobey and exalt human laws above the law of God in the great crisis before us will receive the mark of the beast.—Letter 98, 1900. Ev 235.3
Caution in Presenting the Sunday Question—[We are] not to provoke those who have accepted this spurious sabbath, an institution of the Papacy in the place of God’s holy Sabbath. Their not having the Bible arguments in their favor makes them all the more angry and determined to supply the place of arguments that are wanting in the Word of God by the power of their might. The force of persecution follows the steps of the dragon. Therefore great care should be exercised to give no provocation.—Letter 55, 1886. Ev 235.4
Let the Truth Do the Cutting—Satan’s efforts against the advocates of the truth will wax more bitter and determined to the very close of time. As in Christ’s day the chief priests and rulers stirred up the people against Him, so today the religious leaders will excite bitterness and prejudice against the truth for this time. The people will be led to acts of violence and opposition which they would never have thought of had they not been imbued with the animosity of professed Christians against the truth. Ev 236.1
And what course shall the advocates of truth pursue? They have the unchangeable, eternal Word of God, and they should reveal the fact that they have the truth as it is in Jesus. Their words must not be rugged and sharp. In their presentation of truth they must manifest the love and meekness and gentleness of Christ. Let the truth do the cutting; the Word of God is as a sharp, two-edged sword, and will cut its way to the heart. Those who know that they have the truth should not, by the use of harsh and severe expressions, give Satan one chance to misinterpret their spirit.—The Review and Herald, October 14, 1902. Ev 236.2
A Call to Enlighten the Masses—I have been shown that Satan is stealing a march upon us. The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom, religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world. Ev 236.3
Our time for work is limited, and God calls us as ministers and people to be minutemen. Teachers as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves must come to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty. There are many who do not understand the prophecies relating to these days, and they must be enlightened.—Letter 1, 1875. Ev 237.1

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Is Ellen White correct? Are those that worship our Lord on Sunday doomed to receive the mark of the beast?

Yeah she said a lot of things, eating meat and foods with spices, and pies & cakes are also supposed to defile a person. Jesus ate meat and the Israelites were commanded to eat meat on the Passover. God also specifically said that eating certain kinds of meat does not defile a person. So she said a lot of things that contradict scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yeah she said a lot of things, eating meat and foods with spices, and pies & cakes are also supposed to defile a person. Jesus ate meat and the Israelites were commanded to eat meat on the Passover. God also specifically said that eating certain kinds of meat does not defile a person. So she said a lot of things that contradict scripture.

Can you site references please so the context can be looked at.