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Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

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I suppose this is another fishing boat?
You're asking me because you don't know, do you? At least you managed to stop being mendacious long enough to post a picture of an actual boat that was blown to smithereens by the US military. Can't say I'm surprised that your previous faulty statements don't seem to weigh on your conscience enough for you to recant them.

We'll never know if this particular vessel was a drug boat since all the evidence has explosively vanished. All that is visible from the short grainy low resolution footage is a boat sitting still in the water. It is then promptly eliminated from existence.

The fact that it was sitting still is congruent with claims from the Colombian government that the boat piloted by fisherman Alejandro Carranza had sent out an S.O.S. after experiencing engine failure.

Colombia's President Gustavo Petro, a critic of the U.S. military presence in the Caribbean, has also claimed Carranza was innocent.

Petro said his crew suffered a mechanical failure at sea.

"The Colombian boat was adrift with a distress signal, its engine raised," Petro wrote Saturday on X. "He had no ties to drug trafficking. His daily activity was fishing."


The family of the Colombian man has now filed a formal complaint against US Secretary of War Crimes Pete Hegseth.


Do I believe the claims of the Colombian government? Not necessarily. Do I believe the US government? Even less. It's beside the point. This boat was sitting still in the water. It would have been trivial to apprehend the suspects. It was done to the boats from 2019 and 2023 in the your deceitful previous post. And those were actually moving at high speeds and not sitting dead in the water.

And if you claim you're at war with the narcos, then double tapping is a war crime. If you claim you're not at war it's just murder.

Don't even bother coming up with another grainy picture. It matters not. There is no defense for this.
 
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Cartel drug smugglers are not uniformed combatants deserving of special rights and privileges. Especially after they rape the illegal immigrants the left loves so much before making them sex slaves to pay off their debts. Comparing these monsters to Japanese pilots is an insult to Imperial Japan. Pirates can be shot on sight, so why not drug smugglers?

No one here is defending drug smugglers, denying the fentanyl crisis in America, or suggesting we should not pursue those responsible for drug trafficking. We all agree on the importance of apprehending drug dealers, ensuring they are held accountable, and, if possible, eliminating the sources of these drugs.

The question remains: do we use our legal system in the same way as we have over the past 50 years? Do we rely on the Coast Guard to apprehend drug smugglers as we did for the last 50 years, or catch them at the border? Do we prosecute drug dealers after they are caught and proceed with the legal process as we have done for the past 50 years?

Or do we blow them up them at sea without going through any legal system?
 
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No one here is defending drug smugglers, denying the fentanyl crisis in America, or suggesting we should not pursue those responsible for drug trafficking. We all agree on the importance of apprehending drug dealers, ensuring they are held accountable, and, if possible, eliminating the sources of these drugs.
Fentanyl isn't even what would be on these boats anyway. It's mostly cocaine the same drug the guy from Honduras was pardoned for by this same administration. Fentanyl comes from China almost exclusively. Why isn't this administration blowing up Chinese boats do you think?
 
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What are you guys, the feelings police? Liberals are required to allow war crimes because otherwise it might look like we have empathy fora group you do not like?
Yes, this is all about me and what I don't like. If it wasn't for me none of this would be happening. In fact the world wouldn't even exist without me. Just be glad I like pizza, or else you'd get none.
 
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Yes, this is all about me and what I don't like. If it wasn't for me none of this would be happening. In fact the world wouldn't even exist without me. Just be glad I like pizza, or else you'd get none.
Got nothing so resort to invective, huh?
 
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Beats me, that's where one of the posted images traced to.
The confusion comes from the observation that the photo is about the Mexican navy seizing boats in the Pacific (which the US Coast Guard is also doing, in active cooperation with the Mexican navy). Somehow that is supposed to prove that blowing them up instead of seizing them in the Carribean and then killing survivors in the water was a righteous act. That certainly is confusing to me.
 
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Got nothing so resort to invective, huh?
In my opinion invective "that you don't like" and "what you don't approve of" questions merit the type of reply I gave. Further ad hominem (directed against the person) questions will receive a similar reply.
 
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You're asking me because you don't know, do you?
Let's just call it a Rorschach test. What do you see? A fishing boat, or something else? With all the talk about Trump blowing up "fishing boats," I am curious to see if we are actually looking at the same pictures. If not, I have yet to see any evidence of any fishing boat being destroyed by the Navy. Got any? Where is the rhetoric about fishing boats coming from?
We'll never know if this particular vessel was a drug boat since all the evidence has explosively vanished.
Well, that answers the question. We are looking at the same pictures. I see what obviously appears to be a smuggling boat filled with drugs and you see a beautiful butterly. You say the evidence vanished. Do you not know about this thing called a "battle damage assessment?"
 
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Who said I was defending Trump for pardons?
Let's AI your "Do you not think Trump did the right thing?"

The phrase "Do you not think Trump did the right thing?" implies a question about someone's opinion on a specific action taken by Donald Trump. It suggests that the speaker believes Trump made a correct or justified decision and is seeking confirmation or disagreement from the listener. This type of question often reflects a polarized view, where the speaker may expect the listener to either support or challenge Trump's actions based on their political beliefs or values.
So yes, that's a defense.
 
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In my opinion invective "that you don't like" and "what you don't approve of" questions merit the type of reply I gave. Further ad hominem (directed against the person) questions will receive a similar reply.

Is that anything like claiming "feigned moral outrage"? Pot, Kettle, Black.

It adresses all of the feigned moral outrage taking place.
 
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The confusion comes from the observation that the photo is about the Mexican navy seizing boats in the Pacific (which the US Coast Guard is also doing, in active cooperation with the Mexican navy). Somehow that is supposed to prove that blowing them up instead of seizing them in the Carribean and then killing survivors in the water was a righteous act. That certainly is confusing to me.
Considering how bad the Narco drug situation is in America, that method appears to not be affective enough.
 
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As I can't see the dates I'll put money on these being yet another fake picture that some folks accept without the most remedial of fact checking.
Are they fishing boats?
 
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You are making a big assumption. There is no proof of narcotics on the boat. One verified ship attack contained narcotics that were going to a larger vessel bound for Europe, not the US.
You are the one that accused Trump of attacking fishing boats. Where is the fishing gear? At least you could provide one example of any of the attacked boats that a reasonable person would possibly suspect that the vessel could have been a fishing boat. In fact, I bet you couldn't find a single example in which the vessel in question that couldn't possibly be used to smuggle drugs. Bombs were dropped on people suspected of setting up IEDs with far less evidence than what was used to blow up the boats.
 
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Considering how bad the Narco drug situation is in America, that method appears to not be affective enough.

Why does the US face a larger drug problem than other industrial countries? Is it due to law enforcement, or are there other socioeconomic factors?

CountryDrug Overdose DeathsOpioid Prescriptions per 1,000 PeopleAlcohol Use Disorder Prevalence (%)
United States22.0505.5
Canada7.9333.2
United Kingdom5.0113.5
Germany1.663.0
Australia3.183.4
 
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Is that anything like claiming an entire group has "feigned moral outrage"? Pot, Kettle, Black.
No, that only adresses any feigned moral outrage taking place. It would need to say "It adresses all of the feigned moral outrage [from group/person] taking place" for a pot and kettle. And even then it wouldn't be the same as being directed personally against the person I was replying to.
 
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Why does the US face a larger drug problem than other industrial countries? Is it due to law enforcement, or are there other socioeconomic factors?

CountryDrug Overdose DeathsOpioid Prescriptions per 1,000 PeopleAlcohol Use Disorder Prevalence (%)
United States22.0505.5
Canada7.9333.2
United Kingdom5.0113.5
Germany1.663.0
Australia3.183.4
I'd say it's due to too many Narco drugs being smuggled into the United States.
 
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Are they fishing boats?
This is what a Caribbean fishing boat looks like:

Caribbean Fishing Boat.png
 
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I'd say it's due to too many Narco drugs being smuggled into the United States.

Yes, that's correct—more drugs enter the U.S. than any other industrialized country. But why? Is it because American consumers use more drugs, creating higher demand? Without demand for narcotics, dealers would go elsewhere. It's a matter of supply and demand economics. So, why do most drugs come to the U.S. rather than Europe or Canada?
 
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