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[Strong in Him]

My beliefs are so strong that the earth is flat & that we have never been to the moon, I'll risk it.

You're very brave - risking God's eternal disappointment in you over something that doesn't matter.

When you meet with God, you will instantly know the truth. You will certainly see Charles Duke in heaven and may learn how much impact his testimony had on others.
You may even have to say to him, "I once believed you - but then I decided you were a liar."

 

[Strong in Him]

Of course I do, but this thread is not about Salvation it's about F/E.

But the shape of the earth is not at all important; salvation is.
Charles Duke talks about salvation - yet you say that he is lying just because he knows what shape the earth is because he saw it.

 

[Apple Sky]

yet you say that he is lying just because he knows what shape the earth is because he saw it.

Zec 1:11 ...and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and
is at rest.

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he
marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes,
and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh
it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty
of a man; that it may remain in the house.

 

[Apple Sky]

The Earth has borders. Antarctica is
an ice wall surrounding us.

Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with
bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it
brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but
no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
Psa 74:17 Thou hast set all the borders of the earth:
thou hast made summer and winter.
Psa 104:9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not
pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

 

[Strong in Him]

Zec 1:11 ...and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and
is at rest.

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he
marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes,
and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh
it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty
of a man; that it may remain in the house.

So that proves he didn't walk on the moon, does it?
Your interpretation of Scripture is more important than a Christian brother's eye witness testimony?

 

[prodromos]

@Apple Sky you've posted these same verses many times and you are still misunderstanding them. They are not about the earth, they are about God.

 

[prodromos]

No, it's about the truth.

Truth is a person, the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, our Lord, God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
He barely gets a mention in these threads.

 

[Apple Sky]

He barely gets a mention in these threads.

Yes he does, every time God is mentioned.

 

[Apple Sky]

Job is asked by God out of a tornado: “Can you bind the cluster
of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you lead forth
the constellations in their season? Or can you guide the Bear with
her cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you
establish its dominion over the earth?”10 No one is in charge of
them except God and themselves, only by the power that He
gave them.

One day, He will remove them. “...and the stars of
the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs
when she is shaken of a great wind.”11 This is the power of God:
To create and to destroy. I am sure John, seeing this great event,
was reminded of Jesus when He cursed the fig tree.12 It is God’s
purpose to do as He wills. Stars are just as important, and, just as
easily set forth or cast away by His word.

By Paul Harty

 

[David Lamb]

Job is asked by God out of a tornado: “Can you bind the cluster
of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you lead forth
the constellations in their season? Or can you guide the Bear with
her cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you
establish its dominion over the earth?”10 No one is in charge of
them except God and themselves, only by the power that He
gave them.

One day, He will remove them. “...and the stars of
the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs
when she is shaken of a great wind.”11 This is the power of God:
To create and to destroy. I am sure John, seeing this great event,
was reminded of Jesus when He cursed the fig tree.12 It is God’s
purpose to do as He wills. Stars are just as important, and, just as
easily set forth or cast away by His word.

By Paul Harty

What has binding or leading forth constellations of stars, or the fact that God is in charge of His creation, got to do with the shape of the earth? I am just asking, not arguing.

 

[Hentenza]

First we need credible evidence that they even went to the moon as these videos just don't cut it.

I’ve given you that many times before but you just ignore it. Let’s start with the reflectors. How did they get to the moon?

 

[Hentenza]

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Damn bruh
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Very mature. Let me know when you want to have a serious conversation.

 

[David Lamb]

I’ve given you that many times before but you just ignore it. Let’s start with the reflectors. How did they get to the moon?

Yes, as I said to Apple Sky in Post 2431: "Besides, if your answer to every piece of evidence for the moon landings, or against the earth being flat is to call it "fake" or "lies", what is the point of the pages and pages of discussion?" She doesn't even believe the Christian testimony of an astronaut who was converted after visiting the moon, so I am left wondering what evidence she would accept.

 

[Strong in Him]

Job is asked by God out of a tornado: “Can you bind the cluster
of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you lead forth
the constellations in their season? Or can you guide the Bear with
her cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you
establish its dominion over the earth?”10 No one is in charge of
them except God and themselves, only by the power that He
gave them.

You can't debate, or disprove, science by quoting the Bible, because the Bible is not a science textbook.
The Bible tells us WHO, science tells us HOW. God graciously gave people the ability to study, and find out about, his creation - why do you not get that?

 

[Apple Sky]

What has binding or leading forth constellations of stars, or the fact that God is in charge of His creation, got to do with the shape of the earth? I am just asking, not arguing.

Nothing

I’ve given you that many times before but you just ignore it. Let’s start with the reflectors. How did they get to the moon?

Oh no not this again, ANSWER - There aren't any reflectors on the moon.

 

[Apple Sky]

You can't debate, or disprove, science by quoting the Bible,

Yes I can, God was the greatest scientist of them all.

 

[Hentenza]

Nothing



Oh no not this again, ANSWER - There aren't any reflectors on the moon.

There definitely are since they are in use today. How do you factor that? If the scientific community uses them today then how can they not be on the moon?

 

[Apple Sky]

You can't debate, or disprove, science by quoting the Bible, because the Bible is not a science textbook.

God knows all. It is quite clever that “scire” is also the root of
our modern word: “science” which just means: “knowledge.”
God is all science. God is all knowledge. Anything in science that
does not back up what God made/believes is faulty. Any science
that denies God is pseudoscience.

 

[Apple Sky]

If the scientific community uses them today then how can they not be on the moon?

I don't know, you tell me, your the one claiming they are there.

 

[David Lamb]

God knows all. It is quite clever that “scire” is also the root of
our modern word: “science” which just means: “knowledge.”
God is all science. God is all knowledge. Anything in science that
does not back up what God made/believes is faulty. Any science
that denies God is pseudoscience.

Not all scientists deny God. There are bible-believing scientists like those who are connect to Creation organisations like "Answers in Genesis."