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WHEN WAS THE LAW TAKEN AWAY. AND GRACE BEGAN. ??

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# 1 IN ////. EN. is a PREPOSTION

# 2. THAT HE SAITH //// LEGO. is. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE

# 3 A. NEW. //// KAINOS. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

# 4. COVENANT /// KAVEN

# 5. HE HATH MADE ///. PALAIOO. in. the PERFECT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , and this MOOD , means you BETTER BELIEVE IT

# 6 THE /// HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 7. FIRST ///. PROTOS. , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 8 OLD /// PALAOO , in. th PERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the SINGULAR

# 9 NOW ///. DE. , is a CONJUNCATION

# 10 THAT WHICH DECAYETH. ,///. in the PRESENY TENSE , in the PASSIVE TENSE . in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR in. the NUTER

# 11 AND ,/// KAI is a CONJUNCATION

# 12 WAXETH. OLD. , /// GORASHO. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE means CHRIST is causing. it to be OLD is a PARTICIPL

in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR and in. the NEUTER , meaning neither MALE or FEMALE

# 13. READY. , ///. ONGYS. is an ADVERB

# 14 TO VANISH AWAY , ///. APHANISMOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#A. THIS MEAND THE OLD LAW OF MOSES has been sat aside FOREVER. !!

# B. And Rom 6:14 FOR YOU ARD NOT. //. OV s a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means you will NEVERRRRR. be under

the LAW but UNDER GRACE. ,

# C This means that SALVATION is by ROM 10:9 and 10

# And John 3:3 and verse 5. will not save anyone and John is speaking to Israel ONLY. !!

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Grace began in Gen 3, the moment Adam sinned , since God has stated that to was to die, and Adam lived over 900 years after he sinned.

The Law of God is written on the heart under the New Covenant according to Jer 31 and according to Heb 8 and Heb 10.

"Sin is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4, still even in the NT age.

So then , it is "still a sin to take God's name in vain" just as it always was.
 
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Grace began in Gen 3, the moment Adam sinned , since God has stated that to was to die, and Adam lived over 900 years after he sinned.

The Law of God is written on the heart under the New Covenant according to Jer 31 and according to Heb 8 and Heb 10.

"Sin is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4, still even in the NT age.

So then , it is "still a sin to take God's name in vain" just as it always was.
And just where did you see the word. GRACE //. CHARIS in. Gen 3. ?? ARE YOU ADDING TO Gen 3. ??

This my answer for you to consider !!

In Gen. 3:21 , DID //. ASA. is a CONJUNCATION. is a verb. in. the QAL. in. the IMPERFECT TENSE

The LORD //. YHOVA

GOD. // ELOHIM. is a PLURAL ABSOLUTE

MAKE. //. ASA. a verb in. the. in the IMPEFECT TENSE. in. the SINGULAR

COATS // KUTORET. in. the PLURAL

OF SKINS //. is a verb. in. the HIPHIL in. the IMPERTFECT TENSE. in v the PLURAL

AND CLOTHED THEM. //. is a verb in the HIPHIL. in. the IMPERFECT TENSE in. the PLURAL .

CHRIST killed an animal to cover their SIN !!

And BLOOD was SPRINKED

and his was what is called ATONEMENT. that. continued UNDER the under the LAW of Moses. where the LAW OF MOSES

WAS SET ASIDE in Acts 28:25-26 and in ISA 1_13

and specially Heb 8:13. !!!

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Grace began in Gen 3, the moment Adam sinned , since God has stated that to was to die, and Adam lived over 900 years after he sinned.

The Law of God is written on the heart under the New Covenant according to Jer 31 and according to Heb 8 and Heb 10.

"Sin is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4, still even in the NT age.

So then , it is "still a sin to take God's name in vain" just as it always was.

And just where did you see the word. GRACE //. CHARIS in. Gen 3. ?? ARE YOU ADDING TO Gen 3. ??

Most people know the actual meaning of grace so they know it when they see it in Gen 3. Adam and Eve are not killed immediately as God's warning in chapter 2 clearly indicated even in Eve's own statement at the start of 3.

The entire argument of the serpent in 3 is that God's warning was mere bluff as proven by the demonstration that eating the tree did not at all produce the instant death that was conveyed as the punishment.

Its the very simplest basics of the chapter that we are discussing at this point.

The story would have ended instantly when Eve ate the fruit were it not for grace that we see in the chapter.
 
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# 1 IN ////. EN. is a PREPOSTION

# 2. THAT HE SAITH //// LEGO. is. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE

# 3 A. NEW. //// KAINOS. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

# 4. COVENANT /// KAVEN

# 5. HE HATH MADE ///. PALAIOO. in. the PERFECT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , and this MOOD , means you BETTER BELIEVE IT

# 6 THE /// HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 7. FIRST ///. PROTOS. , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 8 OLD /// PALAOO , in. th PERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the SINGULAR

# 9 NOW ///. DE. , is a CONJUNCATION

# 10 THAT WHICH DECAYETH. ,///. in the PRESENY TENSE , in the PASSIVE TENSE . in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR in. the NUTER

# 11 AND ,/// KAI is a CONJUNCATION

# 12 WAXETH. OLD. , /// GORASHO. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE means CHRIST is causing. it to be OLD is a PARTICIPL

in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR and in. the NEUTER , meaning neither MALE or FEMALE

# 13. READY. , ///. ONGYS. is an ADVERB

# 14 TO VANISH AWAY , ///. APHANISMOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#A. THIS MEAND THE OLD LAW OF MOSES has been sat aside FOREVER. !!

# B. And Rom 6:14 FOR YOU ARD NOT. //. OV s a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means you will NEVERRRRR. be under

the LAW but UNDER GRACE. ,

# C This means that SALVATION is by ROM 10:9 and 10

# And John 3:3 and verse 5. will not save anyone and John is speaking to Israel ONLY. !!

dan p
  • Grace & Law: Grace isn't freedom from God's law but power to keep it. Christ's sacrifice made atonement, allowing believers to live righteously, not by earning salvation but by receiving God's imputed righteousness through faith.
 
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  • Grace & Law: Grace isn't freedom from God's law but power to keep it. Christ's sacrifice made atonement, allowing believers to live righteously, not by earning salvation but by receiving God's imputed righteousness through faith.
No one is saved by keeping the law. You really need to study justification to understand the tremendous power of Jesus sacrifice,
 
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Most people know the actual meaning of grace so they know it when they see it in Gen 3. Adam and Eve are not killed immediately as God's warning in chapter 2 clearly indicated even in Eve's own statement at the start of 3.

The entire argument of the serpent in 3 is that God's warning was mere bluff as proven by the demonstration that eating the tree did not at all produce the instant death that was conveyed as the punishment.

Its the very simplest basics of the chapter that we are discussing at this point.

The story would have ended instantly when Eve ate the fruit were it not for grace that we see in the chapter.
# 1. And Gen 3:3 says the following. :

# 2 NOT /// LO is a PARTICLE. NEGATIVE

# 3. EAT , /// AKA is a verb. in. the QAL in. the IMPERFECT TENSE in. the PLURAL

# 4 OF IT /// MIN. is a PREPOSOTION. in. the PLURAL

# 5 NEITHER ///. is. a CONJUNCATION is a PARTICLE NEGATIVE

# 6 SHALL YE TOUCH ///. NAGA. in. the IMPERFECT TENSE. in. the PLURAL

# 7 IT ///. BO

# 8 LEST. ///. PEN is a CONJUNCATION

# 9 YE DIE. /// MUT is. in. the IMPEFECT TENSE in. the PLURAL


# A They did DIE !!

# B. Funny that I did NOT SEE THE. HEBREW WORD FOR BLUFF. unless you have a verse

# C. And we would not be here if die right away. !!

# D And in Gen 5:5 ADAM lived 930 years , WOW. !!

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Grace began in Gen 3, the moment Adam sinned , since God has stated that to was to die, and Adam lived over 900 years after he sinned.

The Law of God is written on the heart under the New Covenant according to Jer 31 and according to Heb 8 and Heb 10.

"Sin is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4, still even in the NT age.

So then , it is "still a sin to take God's name in vain" just as it always was.
AND since you quoted 1 John 3;4 justing. asking what. you. say what 1. JOHN 5:18. means , that whosoever

is BORN OF GOD. , DOES NOT. SIN and the word NOT // OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

that. NEGATIVE MEANS YOU. CAN EVER. SIN EVER AGAIN , do you believe that verse. !!

And I believe that verse BUT is it for today. ??

dan p
 
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