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Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’

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The people being questioned didn't seem to know much about what they're supposed to know about.
That was obvious.
And so what? Does this invalidate the work of real scientists? Does this negates the knowledge of well informed activists?

The pictures show the deviation of the measured temperature compared to the reference temperature of 1951 to 1980. Red is warmer, blue is cooler. We see that close to the entire world is warmer.
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Is this all the sudden not true anymore?

Which shows a systematic and progressive warming. A global one.
 
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That was obvious.
And so what? Does this invalidate the work of real scientists? Does this negates the knowledge of well informed activists?

The pictures show the deviation of the measured temperature compared to the reference temperature of 1951 to 1980. Red is warmer, blue is cooler. We see that close to the entire world is warmer.
2020

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Is this all the sudden not true anymore?

Which shows a systematic and progressive warming. A global one.
Hey man, I just posted a video.
 
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Hey man, I just posted a video.
You are a rational and intelligent man. You do things with a purpose, to convey a certain message.
Either you have the courage to state your message clearly, unambiguously or you don't have that courage.
 
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You are a rational and intelligent man. You do things with a purpose, to convey a certain message.
Either you have the courage to state your message clearly, unambiguously or you don't have that courage.
I watch YouTube shorts. Sometimes when one comes up that addresses the topic of a thread I post it. That's all there is to it. And once in a while someone way over reacts to it.
 
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James Hansen predicted that burning all existing fossil fuels "would make most of the planet uninhabitable by humans"...
Which we haven't (yet), so Hansen's prediction doesn't apply.
Another thing to keep in mind is to check when a certain prediction was done and whether it was the best case scenario, the most probable or worst case scenario.
Prior to 2014 it was projected that we would cause a rise in temperature of 4°C for the year 2100. In 2015 the Paris Agreement was accepted targeting 1.5°C or maximum 2°C increase. Different measures taken have indeed lowered the expected warming from 4°C to 2.7°C by the year 2100. Still very bad, compare that with an obese person who has lowered its BMI from 40 to 37, that person will still have severe health issues, but less severe than if it stayed at 40.
I know most of the planet is not all the planet, so I guess Gates built kind of a strawman, but even then, sources say we've already burned half of earth's supply, and all we've seen so far are a couple tennis court size islands go underwater.
Which is only one consequence of global warming.
It is expected that a big area will be inhabitable due to heating, and that in an even bigger part of the world heat stress will cause a lower life expectancy.
Besides that, if the lives and wellbeing of outdoor workers is of no concern, their economic productivity will decline also.
 
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Squad" Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., is keeping silent on whether she still stands by her ten-year deadline for action laid out in the Green New Deal

Back when Ocasio-Cortez first introduced the Green New Deal in the House of Representatives in 2019, she framed climate change as an existential threat that required a ten-year intensity of sweeping changes in U.S. energy policy.

 
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Squad" Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., is keeping silent on whether she still stands by her ten-year deadline for action laid out in the Green New Deal

Back when Ocasio-Cortez first introduced the Green New Deal in the House of Representatives in 2019, she framed climate change as an existential threat that required a ten-year intensity of sweeping changes in U.S. energy policy.

Prior to the Paris Agreement the perspective was that we were heading for 4°C for 2100. If we want to get the target of 1.5°C there needs to be a reduction of 60 % CO2 for 2050 compared to 2019 and net zero for 2070.
Due to the massive roll out of renewables the most probable outcome is 2.7°C warming for 2100. Still very bad, but less catastrophic than 4°C.

The IPCC roadmap to 1.5°C warming: Global Warming of 1.5 ºC —
an optimistic not (though I don't know how realistic):
 
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Prior to the Paris Agreement the perspective was that we were heading for 4°C for 2100. If we want to get the target of 1.5°C there needs to be a reduction of 60 % CO2 for 2050 compared to 2019 and net zero for 2070.
Due to the massive roll out of renewables the most probable outcome is 2.7°C warming for 2100. Still very bad, but less catastrophic than 4°C.

The IPCC roadmap to 1.5°C warming: Global Warming of 1.5 ºC —
an optimistic not (though I don't know how realistic):
Oh, the new analysis says that? Gotcha.
 
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Oh, the new analysis says that? Gotcha.
Again, between 2014 and now a lot of progress has been made, which has lowered the expected warming.
The most accepted analysis is the IPCC roadmap.
 
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