UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in midtown Manhattan, law enforcement official says

[Danthemailman]

Accused CEO assassin Luigi Mangione asks judge to toss evidence from his arrest

Accused CEO assassin Luigi Mangione asks judge to toss evidence from his arrest

Accused assassin Luigi Mangione faces murder trial as court weighs admissibility of backpack evidence and police statements in the high-profile case.

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This guy has a lot of nerve!

 

[essentialsaltes]

Accused CEO assassin Luigi Mangione asks judge to toss evidence from his arrest

This guy has a lot of nerve!

It doesn't take nerve to insist on one's Miranda rights and search warrants. Everybody has them.

 

[Desk trauma]

It doesn't take nerve to insist on one's Miranda rights and search warrants. Everybody has them.

For now.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

It doesn't take nerve to insist on one's Miranda rights and search warrants. Everybody has them.

Those rights should only be for law abiding citizens and not criminals.

 

[Danthemailman]

Those rights should only be for law abiding citizens and not criminals.

Criminals have become emboldened and even seem to have an entitlement mentality, thanks to soft on crime policies, particularly in blue states.

 

[Larniavc]

Criminals have become emboldened and even seem to have an entitlement mentality, thanks to soft on crime policies, particularly in blue states.

They’re always been like that. It’s much better these days; when was the last time a bank was robbed?

And in the UK there were only 575 killed last year and we’re far softer on crime over here.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Criminals have become emboldened and even seem to have an entitlement mentality, thanks to soft on crime policies, particularly in blue states.

When have blue states been soft on the murderers of rich white people?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Speaking of Miranda rights

Video shows Luigi Mangione says he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions​

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Speaking of Miranda rights

Video shows Luigi Mangione says he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions​

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.

Whoops

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I'm sure there's a few here who would be happy to see rubber hoses and car batteries brought back to the interrogation room.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I'm sure there's a few here who would be happy to see rubber hoses and car batteries brought back to the interrogation room.

No, not the interrogation room.

 

[Belk]

Speaking of Miranda rights

Video shows Luigi Mangione says he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions​

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.

If he answered that is on him. The question is did you ask for his lawyer? That might make a difference.

 

[rjs330]

Speaking of Miranda rights

Video shows Luigi Mangione says he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions​

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.

From reading the article, I see absolutely NO problems with what the police did. Miranda does not have to be read during an initial investigation of this type. When making contact with an individual who is under suspicion, police are not required to advise a person of Miranda. They are trying to determine if a person was, is, or is about to be involved in crime. That does not require Miranda. Them talking to him for 20 minutes to figure this out is not excessive.

Secondly, depending on the laws of NY, the search of the back pack is probably legal, based upon two factors. Mangione told the officers there was a knife in his pack. Secondly, the pack was not searched until after the arrest, which makes it a search incident to arrest. In many states, if you are arrested LE may search you and anything you have in your possession as incident to arrest.

Maybe NY doesn't allow this, I don't know. In my state LE absolutely would be allowed to search the pack after arrest if there was a weapon inside.

 

[Lukaris]

Op-Ed | Police did nothing wrong in questioning and searching Luigi Mangione | amNewYork

The news coverage about the initial police encounter with Luigi Mangione, who has been charged with murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson last

www.amny.com

Per the article:


Mangione’s defense is challenging the initial statements Mangione made to the police before receiving his Miranda rights. But this argument is baseless. When the police stop a person reasonably suspected of criminal activity — and there is absolutely no doubt that the police had a reasonable suspicion that the person they confronted might have been the Thompson killer — the police have the right to ask preliminary questions to either confirm or dispel their reasonable suspicion. This practice has been consistently reaffirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court and the New York courts for over 50 years.

Opinion of op-ed law school professor:


Bennett L. Gershman is a distinguished professor at the Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University