The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

[RileyG]

Good. There are some who do believe these feelings are invalid and should be ignored, mostly due to their own personal agenda.


Cool.


Whether or not any ideology is "extreme" is in the eye of the beholder.


Or maybe they will grow up and know that their gender is not the same as their sex. It does happen.


It also doesn't automatically mean they do not. These things are far too complicated for other people to make decisions about.

-- A2SG, especially when these "other people" don't understand the feelings at all.....

Yes. Let them grow and mature. I have no further comment, and wish them all well. That is all.

 

[A2SG]

Ehhhh...I'm on the fence on this one. Some parents might not like it, some teachers might not like it, some conservative districts might not like it. Some professionals may or may not agree or disagree.

When it comes to minors, I think they should be left alone and leave it to biology.

THEN AGAIN, I think that should be left up to mental health professionals and doctors.

I think the point is that pronoun use has nothing to do with biology.

-- A2SG, no one checks genitalia before using a pronoun....I hope....

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Ehhhh...I'm on the fence on this one. Some parents might not like it, some teachers might not like it, some conservative districts might not like it. Some professionals may or may not agree or disagree.

When it comes to minors, I think they should be left alone and leave it to biology.

Pronouns don't shift biology.

THEN AGAIN, I think that should be left up to mental health professionals and doctors.

No (legal) medical transition is started without the input of a doctor.

 

[RileyG]

Pronouns don't shift biology.

No (legal) medical transition is started without the input of a doctor.

Well? I'm not sure how to feel and have no further comment.

 

[RileyG]

I think the point is that pronoun use has nothing to do with biology.

-- A2SG, no one checks genitalia before using a pronoun....I hope....

This isn't about genitalia.

Generally, men and women (boys and girls) look very much different. One can often notice by looking at the face through facial structure. Men have more masculine, muscular features, while women have softer features. Men have more prominent Adam's apples, women do not. Not to mention hands, voice, shoulders.

Sometimes, NOT ALWAYS, it's a dead giveaway.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

100% of people have mental health issues.

Nope. Show me a person who desires to mutilate themselves by removing healthy and perfectly functional body parts and I will show you someone with mental health issues. After all, are not the left that keep telling us that gender is in the mind and sex is between the legs?

 

[RileyG]

Nope. Show me a person who desires to mutilate themselves by removing healthy and perfectly functional body parts and I will show you someone with mental health issues. After all, are not the left that keep telling us that gender is in the mind and sex is between the legs?

Yes, by mental health issues do you mean mental illness?

In that case, I agree.

Sex and gender are interchangeable, imo.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I think the point is that pronoun use has nothing to do with biology.

Well, you thought wrong. Again, transgender equals mental health issues, not biology. Hence you have proven my point that people are not born trans, they are recruited and groomed.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yes, by mental health issues do you mean mental illness?

In that case, I agree.

Sex and gender are interchangeable, imo.

Yes. Mental illness. But "gender" is a made up term to obfuscate reality.

 

[RileyG]

Well, you thought wrong. Again, transgender equals mental health issues, not biology. Hence you have proven my point that people are not born trans, they are recruited and groomed.

Or, if I might add, it's related to a delusional disorder. Just IMO.

 

[RileyG]

Yes. Mental illness.

Yes! Spot on! It should be treated as such with therapy and medication. Also, it should be a private manner. Not something celebrated.

 

[Nithavela]

Yes! Spot on! It should be treated as such with therapy and medication. Also, it should be a private manner. Not something celebrated.

The only therapy and medication that have been shown to aleviate the suffering of those who have gender disphoria are gender-affirming treatments.

Any treatment and medication that focuses on trying to make the people suffering from gender disphoria adhere to their birth gender is extremely harmful and ineffective.

 

[RileyG]

The only therapy and medication that have been shown to aleviate the suffering of those who have gender disphoria are gender-affirming treatments.

Any treatment and medication that focuses on trying to make the people suffering from gender disphoria adhere to their birth gender is extremely harmful and ineffective.

And yet, gender affirming care, as it is so-called, hasn't been helpful either. That's a rather moot point.

Telling people they can be something they aren't only harms them.

 

[A2SG]

This isn't about genitalia.

When you say "leave it to biology," what else are you talking about? The only way we have to definitively determine someone else's sex is from their genitalia...unless you're able to take a blood test.

Generally, men and women (boys and girls) look very much different. One can often notice by looking at the face through facial structure. Men have more masculine, muscular features, while women have softer features. Men have more prominent Adam's apples, women do not. Not to mention hands, voice, shoulders.

Sometimes, NOT ALWAYS, it's a dead giveaway.

And what has that to do with what pronouns someone prefers to use?

-- A2SG, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady....

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yes! Spot on! It should be treated as such with therapy and medication. Also, it should be a private manner. Not something celebrated.

If you want my honest opinion, the whole LGBT movement is modern day version of Ashera worship. At least, the demon behind the worship of Ashera. Look up the connection behind how ancient pagan societies worshipped Ashera and LGBT ideology. It will shock you.

 

[RileyG]

When you say "leave it to biology," what else are you talking about? The only way we have to definitively determine someone else's sex is from their genitalia...unless you're able to take a blood test.


And what has that to do with what pronouns someone prefers to use?

-- A2SG, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady....

I'm simply stating someone can know what someone's gender/sex is by simply looking at them. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[RileyG]

If you want my honest opinion, the whole LGBT movement is modern day version of Ashera worship. At least, the demon behind the worship of Ashera. Look up the connection behind how ancient pagan societies worshipped Ashera and LGBT ideology. It will shock you.

Thanks for the info.

 

[A2SG]

Nope. Show me a person who desires to mutilate themselves by removing healthy and perfectly functional body parts and I will show you someone with mental health issues.

Gee, is that the only indicator of a mental health issue? Wow, I know a few psychologists who are treating a lot of people incorrectly. Also, I probably should tell my friend who wants a nose job she needs to see a psychiatrist instead.

After all, are not the left that keep telling us that gender is in the mind and sex is between the legs?

Sex is other places, too.

But yeah, sex is biology, gender is identity.

-- A2SG, seems simple enough, but a lot of people don't get it....

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Thanks for the info.

Ashtoreth: The "Patron Saint" of PRIDE Movement - John15.Rocks

Androgynous goddess Ashtoreth: The “Patron Saint” of the PRIDE LGBTQIA Movement Ashtoreth, also known as Ishtar, Aphrodite, and Venus, is an ancient “androgynous goddess” with a complex history and association with transgenderism. She was initially from Mesopotamia and took on different names...

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Here is one source. Can you take a guess as to when Ashera worshippers gathered to celebrate with their mass orgys and gender fluidity? June!

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Sex is other places, too.

Yes. It is also found in their DNA. No surgery or self mutilation can change that no matter how delusional a person is.