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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

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They know that. They find it easier just to regurgitate that knowingly false claim.
People don't believe that the border was safe, secure, and closed during the Biden administration, why would anyone believe those same sources today?
 
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People don't believe that the border was safe, secure, and closed during the Biden administration, why would anyone believe those same sources today?
Your statement is a disconnect. Asylum seekers is who Biden let in. Your touted number is wrong, and has always been wrong.
 
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The border situation reached the level of disaster under the Biden administration. Human trafficking rose to a level need seen since the Civil War.
Your statements are accurate; however, attributing responsibility to a single president while disregarding trends over the past sixty years reflects either a lack of awareness or intentional misrepresentation.
 
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Perhaps the title is referrig to these Lords? The terrifying masked, armed, violent personas of ICE fits these lords much better (list gleaned from Wikipedia.)
 
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Your statement is a disconnect. Asylum seekers is who Biden let in. Your touted number is wrong, and has always been wrong.
Especially when it is assumed that millions of illegal entrants are refugees before they even apply.



Maybe we will also be told that investigations of fraudulent migrant charities ( like “Feeding our Future”) is actually starving children to death even though the money raised & appropriated to feed them was already stolen.


Or that autistic children are also being abused when actually fraudulent organizations profit from false advertising in the name of charity.


 
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Especially when it is assumed that millions of illegal entrants are refugees before they even apply.



Maybe we will also be told that investigations of fraudulent migrant charities ( like “Feeding our Future”) is actually starving children to death even though the money raised & appropriated to feed them was already stolen.


Or that autistic children are also being abused when actually fraudulent organizations profit from false advertising in the name of charity.


DOGE about as reliable for accuracy as Qanon.....no thanks.
 
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How compelling. I am not saying anything profound. The rise of those here under Obama was through asylum.
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God's heavy hitters smack down Trump

Not my title. Posted for comments from religious leaders on the mass deportations.

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Recently-installed Pope Leo XIV met this month with the Bishop of El Paso, Mark Seitz, and senior Catholic welfare director Dylan Corbett as violence by Trump’s goons against refugees and citizens alike was raging.

The Pontiff told his two countrymen:

The church cannot stay silent before injustice. You stand with me. And I stand with you.


You have in your hands a very important task: to accompany those who are deeply in need of a sign that God never abandons us: the smallest, the poorest, the foreigner — everyone.


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Pat Khanke is a retired conservative Evangelical minister, a published author and now an internet video producer. He was a lifelong Republican-voting anti-abortion campaigner and while still pro-life, is no longer pro-GOP.

Khanke's gentle-Jesus manner has recently morphed into a scathing condemnation of Trump’s sexual predation and criminality:

Corruption isn’t going to fix itself. Whatever else the MAGA movement is and whatever else Donald Trump might be, Trump and MAGA are corrupt to the core. And corruption is only going to embed itself deeper until it’s rooted out. Trump’s rhetoric about draining the swamp was always dishonest. He is the most corrupt president in history. And now he has corrupted the Republican Party and he is corrupting every institution of government. And he’s corrupting the Christian groups who thought that he might be serving their interests.

Khanke urged all believers to abandon the MAGA movement:

“Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, I’m not going to vote for a lying, criminal predator, especially in the name of Jesus, because obviously that’s sick, and offensive.... You don’t vote for the criminal.”
 
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God's heavy hitters smack down Trump

Not my title. Posted for comments from religious leaders on the mass deportations.

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Recently-installed Pope Leo XIV met this month with the Bishop of El Paso, Mark Seitz, and senior Catholic welfare director Dylan Corbett as violence by Trump’s goons against refugees and citizens alike was raging.

The Pontiff told his two countrymen:

The church cannot stay silent before injustice. You stand with me. And I stand with you.


You have in your hands a very important task: to accompany those who are deeply in need of a sign that God never abandons us: the smallest, the poorest, the foreigner — everyone.


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Pat Khanke is a retired conservative Evangelical minister, a published author and now an internet video producer. He was a lifelong Republican-voting anti-abortion campaigner and while still pro-life, is no longer pro-GOP.

Khanke's gentle-Jesus manner has recently morphed into a scathing condemnation of Trump’s sexual predation and criminality:

Corruption isn’t going to fix itself. Whatever else the MAGA movement is and whatever else Donald Trump might be, Trump and MAGA are corrupt to the core. And corruption is only going to embed itself deeper until it’s rooted out. Trump’s rhetoric about draining the swamp was always dishonest. He is the most corrupt president in history. And now he has corrupted the Republican Party and he is corrupting every institution of government. And he’s corrupting the Christian groups who thought that he might be serving their interests.

Khanke urged all believers to abandon the MAGA movement:

“Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, I’m not going to vote for a lying, criminal predator, especially in the name of Jesus, because obviously that’s sick, and offensive.... You don’t vote for the criminal.”
Obviously, those religious leaders disagree with many other religious leaders and millions upon millions of Christians who support President Donald Trump.
 

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The violent rhetoric and name-calling (as in the the article referring to "Trump's goons" and "lying, criminal predator) continues to damage all of us.
Those are tactics used by people who can't win in a civil debate.
 
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Obviously, those religious leaders disagree with many other religious leaders and millions upon millions of Christians who support President Donald Trump.
Religion has never been a good indicator of morality.
 
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God's heavy hitters smack down Trump

Not my title. Posted for comments from religious leaders on the mass deportations.

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Recently-installed Pope Leo XIV met this month with the Bishop of El Paso, Mark Seitz, and senior Catholic welfare director Dylan Corbett as violence by Trump’s goons against refugees and citizens alike was raging.

The Pontiff told his two countrymen:

The church cannot stay silent before injustice. You stand with me. And I stand with you.


You have in your hands a very important task: to accompany those who are deeply in need of a sign that God never abandons us: the smallest, the poorest, the foreigner — everyone.


----

Pat Khanke is a retired conservative Evangelical minister, a published author and now an internet video producer. He was a lifelong Republican-voting anti-abortion campaigner and while still pro-life, is no longer pro-GOP.

Khanke's gentle-Jesus manner has recently morphed into a scathing condemnation of Trump’s sexual predation and criminality:

Corruption isn’t going to fix itself. Whatever else the MAGA movement is and whatever else Donald Trump might be, Trump and MAGA are corrupt to the core. And corruption is only going to embed itself deeper until it’s rooted out. Trump’s rhetoric about draining the swamp was always dishonest. He is the most corrupt president in history. And now he has corrupted the Republican Party and he is corrupting every institution of government. And he’s corrupting the Christian groups who thought that he might be serving their interests.

Khanke urged all believers to abandon the MAGA movement:

“Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, I’m not going to vote for a lying, criminal predator, especially in the name of Jesus, because obviously that’s sick, and offensive.... You don’t vote for the criminal.”
The job of religion in America is to serve party. These people are forgetting their place.
 
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The attacks against ICE officers are up over 1000 per cent:

Attacks on ICE up 1,000%? Trump administration claim not backed up by court records

  • The Trump administration has frequently cited statistics claiming assaults on immigration agents have increased by more than 1,000% since last year.
  • Thousands of pages of court records reviewed by The Times indicate that percentage is misleading, with the majority of the alleged assaults resulting in no injuries.
  • U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla has said the White House is using questionable statistics to “encourage even more brutal immigration enforcement operations.”
For months, Trump administration officials have cited violence against federal law enforcement officers carrying out the president’s deportation campaign as justification for aggressive tactics, including threats to deploy the National Guard and U.S. Marines. The Department of Homeland Security has touted a staggering figure, claiming a 1,000% increase in assaults against Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

President Trump invoked the 1,000% increase figure in a memo directing federal law enforcement groups to investigate “domestic terrorism,” and federal officials have cited the number repeatedly to justify aggressive tactics against protesters and the need for agents to wear masks to avoid being identified.

In late November, the agency [DHS] announced a 1,153% increase in assaults on ICE agents from Jan. 21 to Nov. 21, with 238 reported assaults this year compared to 19 in the same time frame in 2024.

The five jurisdictions The Times analyzed were the federal districts where the Trump administration has conducted large-scale law enforcement and immigration operations or threatened to deploy the military because of the supposed danger faced by federal agents. In those areas, 163 cases of assault of a federal officer had been filed between Jan. 21 and Nov. 21. That’s up from 129 in the same areas and time frame in 2024, an increase of 26%. An NPR analysis came up with a similar figure earlier this year.

Law enforcement experts noted that an increase in assaults is to be expected, since interactions by immigration agents with the public have increased dramatically in Trump’s second term.

[The LA Times'] analysis of court records related to assaults on federal law enforcement in Los Angeles, San Diego, Portland, Ore., Chicago and Washington, D.C., shows the majority of the alleged attacks resulted in no injury to an agent. Twenty-six incidents resulted in a serious injury or required an agent to seek medical attention.

The only documented incident in which a federal law enforcement officer was shot during an immigration enforcement action this year happened in Los Angeles in October — when a bullet from an ICE agent’s gun ricocheted into a deputy marshal’s hand during a vehicle stop.

More than a third of the cases The Times analyzed ended in dismissals or acquittals, in some instances because the defendants were deported. No cases have ended in a conviction at trial. [Roughly half of the cases are still pending.]
 
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Attacks on ICE up 1,000%? Trump administration claim not backed up by court records

  • The Trump administration has frequently cited statistics claiming assaults on immigration agents have increased by more than 1,000% since last year.
  • Thousands of pages of court records reviewed by The Times indicate that percentage is misleading, with the majority of the alleged assaults resulting in no injuries.
  • U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla has said the White House is using questionable statistics to “encourage even more brutal immigration enforcement operations.”
For months, Trump administration officials have cited violence against federal law enforcement officers carrying out the president’s deportation campaign as justification for aggressive tactics, including threats to deploy the National Guard and U.S. Marines. The Department of Homeland Security has touted a staggering figure, claiming a 1,000% increase in assaults against Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

President Trump invoked the 1,000% increase figure in a memo directing federal law enforcement groups to investigate “domestic terrorism,” and federal officials have cited the number repeatedly to justify aggressive tactics against protesters and the need for agents to wear masks to avoid being identified.

In late November, the agency [DHS] announced a 1,153% increase in assaults on ICE agents from Jan. 21 to Nov. 21, with 238 reported assaults this year compared to 19 in the same time frame in 2024.

The five jurisdictions The Times analyzed were the federal districts where the Trump administration has conducted large-scale law enforcement and immigration operations or threatened to deploy the military because of the supposed danger faced by federal agents. In those areas, 163 cases of assault of a federal officer had been filed between Jan. 21 and Nov. 21. That’s up from 129 in the same areas and time frame in 2024, an increase of 26%. An NPR analysis came up with a similar figure earlier this year.

Law enforcement experts noted that an increase in assaults is to be expected, since interactions by immigration agents with the public have increased dramatically in Trump’s second term.

[The LA Times'] analysis of court records related to assaults on federal law enforcement in Los Angeles, San Diego, Portland, Ore., Chicago and Washington, D.C., shows the majority of the alleged attacks resulted in no injury to an agent. Twenty-six incidents resulted in a serious injury or required an agent to seek medical attention.

The only documented incident in which a federal law enforcement officer was shot during an immigration enforcement action this year happened in Los Angeles in October — when a bullet from an ICE agent’s gun ricocheted into a deputy marshal’s hand during a vehicle stop.

More than a third of the cases The Times analyzed ended in dismissals or acquittals, in some instances because the defendants were deported. No cases have ended in a conviction at trial. [Roughly half of the cases are still pending.]

ICE is obviously still populated by a bunch of woke ladybois who talk about their feewings too much instead of embracing their masculinity. Only a Real ManTM can take a hit from a sandwich and keep on fighting.
 
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Attacks on ICE up 1,000%? Trump administration claim not backed up by court records

  • The Trump administration has frequently cited statistics claiming assaults on immigration agents have increased by more than 1,000% since last year.
  • Thousands of pages of court records reviewed by The Times indicate that percentage is misleading, with the majority of the alleged assaults resulting in no injuries.
  • U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla has said the White House is using questionable statistics to “encourage even more brutal immigration enforcement operations.”
For months, Trump administration officials have cited violence against federal law enforcement officers carrying out the president’s deportation campaign as justification for aggressive tactics, including threats to deploy the National Guard and U.S. Marines. The Department of Homeland Security has touted a staggering figure, claiming a 1,000% increase in assaults against Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

President Trump invoked the 1,000% increase figure in a memo directing federal law enforcement groups to investigate “domestic terrorism,” and federal officials have cited the number repeatedly to justify aggressive tactics against protesters and the need for agents to wear masks to avoid being identified.

In late November, the agency [DHS] announced a 1,153% increase in assaults on ICE agents from Jan. 21 to Nov. 21, with 238 reported assaults this year compared to 19 in the same time frame in 2024.

The five jurisdictions The Times analyzed were the federal districts where the Trump administration has conducted large-scale law enforcement and immigration operations or threatened to deploy the military because of the supposed danger faced by federal agents. In those areas, 163 cases of assault of a federal officer had been filed between Jan. 21 and Nov. 21. That’s up from 129 in the same areas and time frame in 2024, an increase of 26%. An NPR analysis came up with a similar figure earlier this year.

Law enforcement experts noted that an increase in assaults is to be expected, since interactions by immigration agents with the public have increased dramatically in Trump’s second term.

[The LA Times'] analysis of court records related to assaults on federal law enforcement in Los Angeles, San Diego, Portland, Ore., Chicago and Washington, D.C., shows the majority of the alleged attacks resulted in no injury to an agent. Twenty-six incidents resulted in a serious injury or required an agent to seek medical attention.

The only documented incident in which a federal law enforcement officer was shot during an immigration enforcement action this year happened in Los Angeles in October — when a bullet from an ICE agent’s gun ricocheted into a deputy marshal’s hand during a vehicle stop.

More than a third of the cases The Times analyzed ended in dismissals or acquittals, in some instances because the defendants were deported. No cases have ended in a conviction at trial. [Roughly half of the cases are still pending.]
Another L.A. Times article misleading the readers. The reporters at the Times should have started with ICE and asked them what was included in the 1000% increase, and ask ICE to provide legally releasable documentation. If there was a delay the reporters did not want to accept they could file a Freedom of Information Act request which requires ICE to respond in 20 days. I went to the ICE website where it states:

"This stunt comes as our ICE officers are facing a more than 1000% increase in assaults against them, including vehicles being used as weapons towards them, and doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families."

There is no indication in the article that the Times includes "doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families." Yet ICE says so right on their website. It was also highly unlikely ICE, which is busy fending off attacks while trying to find missing children and stop violent crime, took the time to track each assault case through trials and appeals. It is reasonable to assume (and the Times certainly should have asked) that ICE is quoting their own internal statistics. Additionally, the Times admits half of the cases are pending and many perpetrators have been deported. Deportation does not mean there was no assault. That a liberal judge may toss a case because, say, when an officer was shoved but not injured, again does not mean an assault did not take place. Likewise a liberal judge may toss a case of even a sucker punch where someone was hurt because of the judge's political leanings. While phone calls threatening the lives of ICE personnel and their spouses and children may not be physical assaults, they are assaults nonetheless. The children can be legitimately afraid. Because a caller was not caught does not mean the call did not take place, undoubtedly employees are asked to file a report on malicious calls.

The claims by the Times could have been avoided by taking simple steps to directly ask ICE. It depended upon whether the Times wanted to truthfully inform their readers or do yet another hit job on the Trump administration.
 
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"This stunt comes as our ICE officers are facing a more than 1000% increase in assaults against them, including vehicles being used as weapons towards them, and doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families."

There is no indication in the article that the Times includes "doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families."
Q: Is doxxing assault?
A: No.
Q: Have ICE begun disguising themselves?
A: Yes.
 
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Q: Is doxxing assault?
A: No.
Q: Have ICE begun disguising themselves?
A: Yes.
Putting fear into little children is wrong and should not be brushed off as not being an assault. As I said, all the Times had to do was contact ICE if they really wanted the truth about the numbers. What the Times considers assaults could be different than ICE, they could make it clear to the readers they only consider assaults as those where a judge or jury has convicted the perpetrator. Pretty easy to do. Perhaps assaults are still over 1000% when doxxing is not included.
 
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