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“2020 AD + 9.5 = 2029.5 AD Exactly 2000 years for the present Church age” -
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Subtract the AOD’s 3.5 years = AOD Jan next year!
I have never said I was infallible. I have said that the 3 1/2 years of world control by the 'beast', cannot be counted as part of the 2000 years of mankind's rule in this Christian era. This puts the glorious Return - to circa 2034.

It is evident from the tone and accusations of your posts, that you get some kind of gratification from knocking over soft targets. An Aussie trait.
What would be far more benefit to all concerned, would be positive comments and your idea of what will happen next.

This thread points out the many Prophesies about how the Christian believers will gather and live in all of the Holy Land. Before Jesus Returns.
A good Prophecy of this happening is in Psalms 107:1-43......Whoever is wise, let him take these things to heart.....
 
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Jesus said that Gods secrets are hidden from the wise and learned - Matthew 11:25
This fact is proved by how 'expert theologians' fail to agree amongst themselves.
Whereas everyone seems to disagree with you.
 
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Whereas everyone seems to disagree with you.
The people disagreed with the ancient Prophets too.
I promote what they said, so that is what I expect as well.

Does anyone really think that the Prophesies as Written in our Bibles, will never come to pass?
Who will actually occupy the Holy Land?
Psalms 37:29 The righteous peoples will possess the [Holy] land and will live there forever. Does anyone reject this?

The Prophetic Word is clear; the Holy peoples of God will be present in all of the Holy Land, BEFORE Jesus Returns. Revelation 7:9
 
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The people disagreed with the ancient Prophets too.
I promote what they said, so that is what I expect as well.

Does anyone really think that the Prophesies as Written in our Bibles, will never come to pass?
Who will actually occupy the Holy Land?
Psalms 37:29 The righteous peoples will possess the [Holy] land and will live there forever. Does anyone reject this?

The Prophetic Word is clear; the Holy peoples of God will be present in all of the Holy Land, BEFORE Jesus Returns. Revelation 7:9
So you say, and I disagree.

But I answered this because I thought I was in the controversial theology forum.
I don't often come into the Eschatology form because I don't generally like discussing end times.
So I'll leave you to it.
 
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I have never said I was infallible.
Yet you cannot help comparing yourself with OT prophets whose messages made it into the BIBLE!

Look at the arrogant presumption to be equal to scripture itself?

The people disagreed with the ancient Prophets too.​
I promote what they said, so that is what I expect as well.​

Oh, poor Keras, all out on his own like an OT prophet! (Martyrs complex.)
Oh - and as authoritative and accurate as one as well! (Claims to infallibility - and the RIGHT to demand obedience and respect!)

You can't have it both ways.

You can't say you never claimed infallibility, and yet also play OT prophet status!

You said you had "absolute certainty."

You said the Holy Spirit inspired your work, and that you could never have come up with all this on your own.

It turns out that is EXACTLY what you have done!

You are not casting pearls of wisdom around. You are spreading the "swine".
You are spreading false beliefs that might risk impressionable reader's faith in the gospel itself when your silly ideas do not come to pass.

Stop this!

History itself has shown you to be a false prophet!


Psalms 107:1-43......Whoever is wise, let him take these things to heart.....

means listen to the bible - and run a million miles from obsessive false prophets like yourself.

One day you're going to wake up and realise you've wasted every hour in this endeavour. The sheer time involved! Every hour of arguing here, patronising others, presenting yourself as oh-so-superior, writing your distracting and totally false blog.

Putting the emphasis on your opinions of politics and current affairs rather than Jesus and the gospel.

Equating Christianity's credibility with whether or not current events turn out the way you predict they will!

All false. All a chasing after the wind. The fact that you write with such arrogance and condensed to everyone around you makes it so much worse.

The blunt way I write to you is nothing about my being "Aussie" - as you would have it.

It's the inevitable result of your own tone.

Look at the last correspondent you engaged with above? See?

He's checked out.

This is the sort of thing where you'll be doing the dishes in years to come - and wince with embarrassment at the whole thing.

Please - just take down your blog, stop posting here, and try reading Paul Barnett's "Apocalypse Now and Then." And humble yourself! Listen to sermons by Timothy Keller and watch your heart for excitement over gospel truths, not your reading of current affairs.

You'll be doing yourself and your church and the world a favour.
 
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It turns out that is EXACTLY what you have done!
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Expect amazing and earth shaking things to happen before Jesus Returns. It's unfortunate that most people have no knowledge of God's intentions, all as Written in the Bible; but hidden from their understanding.
 
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It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Um, I think in your case you're just making it up as you go along, and changing your mind as your previous "ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY" crashes into history.

You've got less than 100 days for Israel to build a temple for the AOD! ;):oldthumbsup::doh:


Oh, and if you changed your mind somewhere along the way - what happened to it being a vision from God? To you being an OT prophet? To your "ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY"!?

"It ain't over till the fat lady sings - and she sung - but she changed her mind - now she's singing again - oh look! She's about to walk off stage. She's turned around. No - she's just motioning to someone. Now she's back at the microphone - having another go! Phew, now she's finally bowed, and is walking off stage. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the fat lady has finally.... oh no. Spoke to soon! She's turned around. She's walking back to them microphone! She's having ANOTHER go! She wants everyone watching her - and she's singing AGAIN! Won't someone tell her to stop!?"

You futurists are ALL absolutely certain that your navel gazing daydreaming has spat out the future - and it's absolutely clear and certain to you! And EVERYONE needs to stop and gape in awe! If they don't, they're not REALLY trying to follow God - or something! ;)

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Futurists like this are a dime a dozen.
It's all so "Ho hum, been there, done that."
Why do you think you're any different?

Especially when you've demonstrated time and again that your biblical theology is just so messed up!?
 
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