Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[Dan1988]

So if you reject those who come preaching rubbish, because it's necesssry to embrace their rubbish, and thus rejecting them as the fraudsters they obviously are we're "rejecting God's order"
Well, that at least gives us yet another example of why we should reject your rubbish, as you set it of being equal to, or superior to, the Gospel of Christ. T

No "as you do" we;re claiming that you're preaching unscriptural, explicitly false, rubbish, a corruption of the Gospel of Christ.

That and $2 and change will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.

That Jim-Bob's Muffler Shop and Theological Seminary offers.

<Guffaw<

I'm fine with a BS in Electrical Engineering and the ability to read, and I doubt that your guru has either.

OK, so now you're saying that God appoints His men to preach the doctrine of demons. I think you have confused The Lord God, with the god of this world, and that goes to prove that the god of this world has blinded you so you don't know the difference between lies and the truth.

I'm not sure if you believe in The Lord, and what He has said, but if you did then you would know that His people (the elect) can't be deceived by demonic doctrine and to suggest that we can, shows you don't fear God.

You have never found a singe fault with any of the doctrines I hold to, so all you can do is resort to the lowest common denominator, and that being slander.

 

[Dan1988]

Wow. St. Paul took a very different view:
6 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

Your religion apparently denies that. Imagine my shock.

The "truth" that your gurus have made up

I have cited many verses, which prove that that the gospel is the most offensive stench that an unbeliever can smell. So, yes the gospel is the most hated of all things in this world. Thousands of Christians are being murdered for sharing the gospel every single week.

So don't give me this nonsense about Paul taking a different view, they murdered all of God prophets and 11 of the disciples and they tried to kill Paul as well. Now doesn't that show how the world loves the gospel. Wow, you way out man

 

[Dan1988]

Agreed, (as He said over 70x) His only gospel was of the Kingdom and that was why He was sent..

No, He was sent to save the (elect of God only), you know those whom God chose to save before He created the world. You simply can't get around that awful truth can you....

 

[RamiC]

49,000 denominations

"Among the 23,600 “Independents” and “Marginals” (70% of the whole) are large numbers of groups one would have a hard time calling Protestant. They include Mormons (122 denominations), Jehovah’s Witnesses (229 denominations), Masons (28 denominations), Christadelphians (21 denominations) Unitarians (29 denominations), Christian Science (59 denominations), Theosophists (3 more denominations), British Israelites (8 denominations), Prosperity Gospel groups (27 denominations), Oneness Pentecostals (680 denominations), “Hidden Buddhist Believers in Christ” (9 denominations), wandering bishops (12 denominations), Independent Nestorians (5 denominations), occultists (3 denominations), spiritists (20 denominations), Zionists (159 denominations), even “Arab radio/TV network” (19 denominations), “gay/homosexual tradition” (2 denominations), and schismatic Catholics (435 denominations). It is a strange and eclectic list. (See here and here.)" We Need to Stop Saying That There Are 33,000 Protestant Denominations | National Catholic Register

"Critics point out that the high numbers often come from counting every national branch of a global communion as if it were a separate denomination. For example, instead of treating the Catholic Church as a single worldwide body, some tallies list it multiple times—once for each country—so that it appears as hundreds of separate denominations rather than one unified church."

and

"While headlines or casual conversations may repeat the figure of 45,000 denominations, that number is based on overly broad definitions. A more careful tally—focusing on major denominational families or communions—puts the figure in the low hundreds." Bolding mine.

How Many Denominations of Christianity Are There? — Anthony Delgado

The source of the highly questionable statistic "49,000" is here - https://www.gordonconwell.edu/center-for-global-christianity/research/quick-facts/

 

[Tom8907]

I wonder what you make about the verse about being tormented day and night with no rest...

 

[JulieB67]

I have asked you many times to show me a single verse to support your un biblical private theory, but you have consistently failed. I knew you would fail miserably because your theology is based on false doctrines.

If a single verse existed to support your private theory, you would have googled it by now and used it to prop up your strawman.
Not sure why you keep listing unrelated verses of scripture which say nothing to support your wild theories. It just shows that you're desperate to defend the indefensible.

So once again, you fail to answer biblical questions about certain scriptures.
Wow, some teachers you have. They have not even prepared you to answer the simplest of questions regarding certain verses and your beliefs on them. And you've failed to show how we are taking them out of context and what you believe they really mean. You should be prepared to give an answer at all times if you really had all of the truth. But you can't because you only have what you're being spoon fed with. And that's a sad state.

Hopefully you'll set out on your own one day with an objective mind and test the them/your teachers verses what the Word of God is really stating about certain subjects. And if you still believe as you do, fine but at least you will have at least made an honest effort. And hopefully you'll have learned some humility in the process.

 

[Dan1988]

So once again, you fail to answer biblical questions about certain scriptures.
Wow, some teachers you have. They have not even prepared you to answer the simplest of questions regarding certain verses and your beliefs on them. And you've failed to show how we are taking them out of context and what you believe they really mean. You should be prepared to give an answer at all times if you really had all of the truth. But you can't because you only have what you're being spoon fed with. And that's a sad state.

Hopefully you'll set out on your own one day with an objective mind and test the them/your teachers verses what the Word of God is really stating about certain subjects. And if you still believe as you do, fine but at least you will have at least made an honest effort. And hopefully you'll have learned some humility in the process.

As I have already repeated over and over again "Your question is mute, it's not a biblical question. I can't comment on your wild theory, because it makes no sense. It's not a valid question, there's not a single shred of Biblical evidence to support your silly nonsense".
I have asked you over and over again to show me one single place in the Bible which supports your silly idea. You keep trying to misapply, unrelated verses and that's abusing Gods Word to make it say what you want it to say.

I'm not waiting for you to find the words "antihalation" and or "cessation of existence", you will turn blue in the face before youy find them, I know the bible and I guarantee they are not there, so back to class you go.

 

[RamiC]

unless you are being led by the Holy Spirit. Here are some verses to help you understand this awful truth.

"14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” Romans 10:14-15 NIV

"The word gospel comes from the Old English god meaning "good" and spel meaning "news, a story." Gospel - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms

Gospel = good news, it does not mean "awful truth".

1 Corinthians 2:14: "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." This is perhaps the primary verse cited, emphasizing that spiritual truths are beyond the comprehension of those without the Holy Spirit.

Agreed, but where is the awful part? You are supposed to be explaining what is so terrible with this verse, where is the bad news?

Romans 8:7-8: "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God." This passage is used to argue that the unbeliever's mind is actively hostile toward God, making them morally and spiritually incapable of obeying or pleasing Him.

Agreed, but where is the awful part? You are supposed to be explaining what is so terrible with this verse, where is the bad news?

2 Corinthians 4:4: "whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them." This verse is often cited to show that Satan has a role in blinding the minds of unbelievers, further hindering their ability to receive the Gospel.

"6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”[a] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8 We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10 We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11 For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12 So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you. 13 It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.”[b] Since we have that same spirit of[c] faith, we also believe and therefore speak, 16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. 17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all." 2 Corinthians 4 6-17 NIV

The Good News that is the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which Satan is defeated.

John 6:44: "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." This verse highlights the necessity of God's prior drawing power for anyone to even come to faith in Christ.

"12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." John 14 12 - 13 NIV

More good news here. Simply ask the Father to draw you, invite the vital spirit of God to remove Satan from oneself or another, and no awful truth is going.

John 8:47: "He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God." Jesus's words here indicate a spiritual condition: an unbeliever's inability to "hear" (receive and obey) God's words stems from not belonging to God.

"37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word." John 8 37 NIV

You are citing a specific group of people who are seeking to kill Jesus at the time when He was on earth in human form here. This verse does not reference everyone who has not been taught by your preacher.

Although your point, yes, it is true, it is again not awful though...Jesus knows who is trying to kill Him, well being omniscient He would.

Now here is why none of the verses that you have provided actually explain what is so awful and terrible...

"3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it." John 1 3-5 NIV

There it is...the good news.

 

[RamiC]

I'm not waiting for you to find the words "antihalation" and or "cessation of existence", you will turn blue in the face before youy find them, I know the bible and I guarantee they are not there,

30 Bible verses about Annihilation

Please do not wait, I do not care if my face is blue, but here indeed is what you say is not there.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

According to the bible, God is perfectly holy. He is not a human being punishing another human being. We have all broken God's commandments, and deserve only His wrath and punishment. Yes, He is also a God of grace, which is why He sent a Saviour, so that sinners believing in Him could be saved from their deserved punishment. Merely ceasing to exist wouldn't be punishment, certainly not the "everlasting punishment" Jesus spoke about in Matthew 25:46. If one ceases to exist, one cannot experience everlasting punishment.

The punishment is everlasting, death Rom6:23.
θάνατος thánatos, than'-at-os; from G2348; (properly, an adjective used as a noun) death (literally or figuratively):—X deadly, (be…) death.

It does not say everlasting punishing which would make one immortal, only those saved will have everlasting life and become immortal once Jesus returns. Those who are not in Christ shall perish (die) John3:16

ἀπόλλυμι apóllymi, ap-ol'-loo-mee; from G575 and the base of G3639; to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively:—destroy, die, lose, mar, perish.

 

[JulieB67]

it's not a biblical question.

Asking your beliefs about certain biblical verses is most definitely a biblical question.

 

[SarahsKnight]

If my cat or my dog made a mess, how much punishment do they deserve? Very little, if at all. I would be an evil person if I tortured them.

Despite our errors and addictions, we trust ourselves and others in the loving hands of God and Christ.

Amen to that. I remember you expressing worry over hell and how you are faring spiritually the other day in one of the Singles threads, @Dreyma . I think you would do well to listen to @Andrewn 's words here.