First John Unction of Fellowship Explained By The Spirit In First Corinthians Fourteen

[Minister Monardo]

First John One:
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,
that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly
our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

When John refers to an Anointing from the Spirit, he is referring to our Fellowship, not to any individual, as if he were saying that no one needs a teacher because of the Anointing. The Anointing is the Teacher, and the Power of the Holy Spirit present whenever two or more are gathered together in the name of Christ, the Son of God. Then, now and unto the end of the age.

First John Two:
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abides in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing
teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Anyone who states otherwise has never truly engaged in home fellowship, the gifts of the Spirit, the mutual edification of the Saints together in Light, or received from the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation in the Knowledge found in Christ. The Ekklesia at Corinth were overly zealous for tongues, and the Lord used this as an opportunity to elaborate of how the Spirit operates in the group setting, and put the use of tongues in its place.

First Corinthians Fourteen:
1-4 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
12-15 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel in the edifying of the church. Wherefore let him that speaks in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
26-29 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

It is the most oxmoronish notion that "the canon of God's Word is closed", to the exclusion of God's Word contained in the Apostolic Doctrines recorded within that canon of scripture. I have stated this clearly before, you cannot mix pastoral letters with those addressing the Ekklesia at large.
Leaders such as Timothy and the elders who were appointed over the Assemblies by them most certainly were expected to uphold the sanctity of God's Word as the ultimate arbiter in receiving from the Spirit, barring all contradiction of knowledge or science so called. This is the oft referred to "Berean Nobility". To deny that the Spirit directs us by way of Fellowship as a recognizable "Voice" is to deny the scriptures, the Anointing, and the purpose of God for us in Fellowship in Christ. These are sowers of discord among the Saints.

 

[ARBITER01]

How was the anointing described in the Old Covenant?

 

[Minister Monardo]

How was the anointing described in the Old Covenant?

This could only be expressed iaw The Law of Moses.
Deuteronomy 28:1 Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth.
2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:

Although short-lived, this proves it was possible, even without a figurehead such as Moses and Joshua.
Joshua 24:31 Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders who outlived Joshua, who had known all the works of the Lord which He had done for Israel.

 

[ARBITER01]

This could only be expressed iaw The Law of Moses.
Deuteronomy 28:1 Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth.
2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:

Although short-lived, this proves it was possible, even without a figurehead such as Moses and Joshua.
Joshua 24:31 Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders who outlived Joshua, who had known all the works of the Lord which He had done for Israel.

It would do you well to not preach on things you haven't experienced yet.

The OT model was the physical aspect of what the spiritual reality was going to be. When David was anointed with olive oil, The Holy Spirit came to rest in power upon him. When The Father anointed Jesus, it was a Spiritual anointing where The Holy Spirit came to rest upon Jesus in power. It is the same for us who reach that holiness with GOD, although very few will actually reach that point.

 

[Minister Monardo]

It would do you well to not preach on things you haven't experienced yet.

You know nothing of what I have experienced.

It is the same for us who reach that holiness with GOD, although very few will actually reach that point.

No it is not. There are no lone wolves in the world today. That is vanity. The Anointing described throughout the Apostolic Doctrine, and in the OP which you were too self-confident to receive from, is experienced in the Fellowship of the Body of Christ. This is the Anointing John speaks of in his first epistle, and Paul elaborates on in detail in First Corinthians. This is the meaning of the expression "in Christ".
Ephesians 4:
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

 

[ARBITER01]

You know nothing of what I have experienced.

No it is not. There are no lone wolves in the world today. That is vanity. The Anointing described throughout the Apostolic Doctrine, and in the OP which you were too self-confident to receive from, is experienced in the Fellowship of the Body of Christ. This is the Anointing John speaks of in his first epistle, and Paul elaborates on in detail in First Corinthians. This is the meaning of the expression "in Christ".
Ephesians 4:
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Lol,... again, you shouldn't preach about things you have no experience with.

I've had that anointing upon my head dripping upon my body a few different times, I guess you won't though since your trying to reason it out with your mind.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Lol,... again, you shouldn't preach about things you have no experience with.

I've had that anointing upon my head dripping upon my body a few different times, I guess you won't though since your trying to reason it out with your mind.

1 Corinthians 10:17 But “he who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”
18 For not he who commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Clearly you do not know who the Head is in Christ.

 

[ARBITER01]

1 Corinthians 10:17 But “he who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”
18 For not he who commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends.

Explaining an experience with GOD is not the same as being prideful there buddy. I fully give the credit to The Father since the anointing come from Him like it did for Jesus.

Maybe you should back up and regroup there marine, because what you're trying to teach and preach here has no relevance with scripture.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Explaining an experience with GOD is not the same as being prideful there buddy. I fully give the credit to The Father since the anointing come from Him like it did for Jesus.

Maybe you should back up and regroup there marine, because what you're trying to teach and preach here has no relevance with scripture.

You are the one who is back peddling and regrouping, giving glory after the fact.
My name is not Buddy, and I am not an elf.
When the Apostolic Doctrine has no relevance, neither do you to me. Later, lone ranger.

 

[ARBITER01]

You are the one who is back peddling and regrouping, giving glory after the fact. My name is not Buddy, and I am not an elf.
When the Apostolic Doctrine has no relevance, neither do you to me. Later, lone ranger.

Lol, .... Christians are not suppose to teach and preach on subjects they have no experience in.

The anointing is identified with Jesus over in Luke,...

Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because he anointed me to preach good tidings to the poor: He hath sent me to proclaim release to the captives, And recovering of sight to the blind, To set at liberty them that are bruised,

Luk 4:19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.


Jesus's ministry was completely dependent upon that anointing He received from The Father, just like Peter's was, and all the other apostles. It was only because of that Spiritual anointing that The Holy Spirit rested upon Jesus in power, and The Father could perform the signs and miracles through Jesus.

Again,... you don't know what you're trying to teach about here,.... at least not with this subject.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Psalm 133:1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!
2 It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Running down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Running down on the edge of his garments.
3 It is like the dew of Hermon,
Descending upon the mountains of Zion;
For there the Lord commanded the blessing—
Life forevermore.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

 

[ARBITER01]

Psalm 133:1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!
2 It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Running down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Running down on the edge of his garments.
3 It is like the dew of Hermon,
Descending upon the mountains of Zion;
For there the Lord commanded the blessing—
Life forevermore.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Again, you're trying your hardest to defend a false teaching you devised by gleaning things from scripture and piecing them together instead of learning directly from Jesus.

My section of scripture I posted "specifically" states that The Holy Spirit was upon Jesus "because" of the anointing He received from The Father. That ends the story right there on what it is.

 

[Minister Monardo]

How was the anointing described in the Old Covenant?

Psalm 133:1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!
2 It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Running down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Running down on the edge of his garments.
3 It is like the dew of Hermon,
Descending upon the mountains of Zion;
For there the Lord commanded the blessing—
Life forevermore.

As described by the Anointed Psalmist.
The OP simply claims that there is an Anointing of the Holy Spirit upon Saints in Fellowship, called by Paul "the Spirit of Unity."
"Behold, how good and pleasant it is, for the brethren to dwell together in Unity". This is the Apostolic Doctrine presented prophetically in the Psalms. You are as confused as you are annoying. Give it a rest, you are not Jesus or in Christ apart from His Body. I do not need any help from you, I have experienced real fellowship with real brethren. Online, smoke in my nose.

 

[ARBITER01]

As described by the Anointed Psalmist.
The OP simply claims that there is an Anointing of the Holy Spirit upon Saints in Fellowship, called by Paul "the Spirit of Unity."
"Behold, how good and pleasant it is, for the brethren to dwell together in Unity". This is the Apostolic Doctrine presented prophetically in the Psalms. You are as confused as you are annoying. Give it a rest, you are not Jesus or in Christ apart from His Body. I do not need any help from you, I have experienced real fellowship with real brethren. Online, smoke in my nose.

Sorry, but that is not what Luke described happening to Jesus as I posted already.

It's the very reason why believers were laying handkerchiefs and cloths upon the body of Paul and people were being healed from them,.... the Spiritual oil of that anointing from The Father was dripping down upon Paul's body and transferring to those cloth items.

Again, cherry picking verses to try and piece together a sermon has never been a good strategy. You need experience to know what you're talking about, but at 69 I highly doubt you are up for learning anything new and correct.