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Are there still Apostles today?

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A little Biblical history and perspective first.

First and foremost is Jesus Christ -

Heb 3:1Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,​


There is the Original 12:
  • Simon (Peter)
  • Andrew (his brother)
  • James (son of Zebedee)
  • John (his brother)
  • Philip
  • Bartholomew (Nathanael)
  • Thomas (Didymus)
  • Matthew (the tax collector/Levi)
  • James (son of Alphaeus)
  • Thaddaeus (Judas son of James, also called Jude or Lebbaeus)
  • Simon (the Zealot/Cananite)
  • Judas Iscariot (the betrayer, later replaced)
Judas was replaced by Matthias - After Judas Iscariot's death, Matthias was chosen by lot to replace him and is explicitly numbered "with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:26). He is therefore referred to as an apostle. They held a unique position (role) in the Gospels -

Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The Reader will notice that the writers of their Gospels - Luke and Mark were not part of the 12. - yet many refer to them as Apostles


Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. 2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3 And He said to them, “Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. 4 “Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5 And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.”​
The reader will note that the 12 were called disciples when they were with Christ and Apostles when they were sent out -​

Keep reading:

Luke 9:10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done.​
Same 12 people - their titles changed from disciple to apostle because they were sent out on a specific journey.
Luke 10:10 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
Luke 10:17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”​
EXACTLY the same direction from the Lord - EXACTLY the same authority and results.

Apostle - transliterated - apostolos - a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ("apostle") (with miraculous powers):—apostle, messenger, he that is sent.​

Then there is Paul - an Apostle to the Gentiles

Barnabus - Acts 14:4 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out

James - Gal 1:19 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother.

None will ever be to the level of the 12 -

But there are numbers called by God and sent who bear the Title Apostle who preached the Gospel, cast out demons and healed the sick.

When I think of modern times, I think of Dr. Billy Graham, who preached the Gospel to over 1 billion people - ministered to Kings and President, who's ministry saw tens of millions come to Christ for Salvation.
 

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A little Biblical history and perspective first.

First and foremost is Jesus Christ -

Heb 3:1Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,​


There is the Original 12:
  • Simon (Peter)
  • Andrew (his brother)
  • James (son of Zebedee)
  • John (his brother)
  • Philip
  • Bartholomew (Nathanael)
  • Thomas (Didymus)
  • Matthew (the tax collector/Levi)
  • James (son of Alphaeus)
  • Thaddaeus (Judas son of James, also called Jude or Lebbaeus)
  • Simon (the Zealot/Cananite)
  • Judas Iscariot (the betrayer, later replaced)
Judas was replaced by Matthias - After Judas Iscariot's death, Matthias was chosen by lot to replace him and is explicitly numbered "with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:26). He is therefore referred to as an apostle. They held a unique position (role) in the Gospels -

Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The Reader will notice that the writers of their Gospels - Luke and Mark were not part of the 12. - yet many refer to them as Apostles


Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. 2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3 And He said to them, “Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. 4 “Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5 And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.”​
The reader will note that the 12 were called disciples when they were with Christ and Apostles when they were sent out -​

Keep reading:

Luke 9:10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done.​
Same 12 people - their titles changed from disciple to apostle because they were sent out on a specific journey.
Luke 10:10 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
Luke 10:17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”​
EXACTLY the same direction from the Lord - EXACTLY the same authority and results.

Apostle - transliterated - apostolos - a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ("apostle") (with miraculous powers):—apostle, messenger, he that is sent.​

Then there is Paul - an Apostle to the Gentiles

Barnabus - Acts 14:4 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out

James - Gal 1:19 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother.

None will ever be to the level of the 12 -

But there are numbers called by God and sent who bear the Title Apostle who preached the Gospel, cast out demons and healed the sick.

When I think of modern times, I think of Dr. Billy Graham, who preached the Gospel to over 1 billion people - ministered to Kings and President, who's ministry saw tens of millions come to Christ for Salvation.
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No, as the Apostles were part of the foundation of the Church not the superstructure.

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
 
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No, as the Apostles were part of the foundation of the Church not the superstructure.

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
Eph 2 - I believe it refers to the 12 - the Apostles of the Lamb

Where does Barnabus fit in?
Or the 70 others?
 
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Acts 14:4 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out

Nope - Apostle.
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Not sure what Acts 14:4 you are using but.

Now it happened in Iconium that they went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the Greeks believed. But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brethren. Therefore they stayed there a long time, speaking boldly in the Lord, who was bearing witness to the word of His grace, granting signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

But the multitude of the city was divided: part sided with the Jews, and part with the apostles. And when a violent attempt was made by both the Gentiles and Jews, with their rulers, to abuse and stone them, they became aware of it and fled to Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and to the surrounding region. And they were preaching the gospel there.
 
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Yes the bible says.
"God constituted apostles, other prophets, other pastors' etc
Where the scripture says that stopped? why everyone is ok with pastors but no apostles and prophets??
scripture says that.
 
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Not sure what Acts 14:4 you are using but.

Now it happened in Iconium that they went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the Greeks believed. But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brethren. Therefore they stayed there a long time, speaking boldly in the Lord, who was bearing witness to the word of His grace, granting signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

But the multitude of the city was divided: part sided with the Jews, and part with the apostles. And when a violent attempt was made by both the Gentiles and Jews, with their rulers, to abuse and stone them, they became aware of it and fled to Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and to the surrounding region. And they were preaching the gospel there.
It’s Acts 14:14.

“But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard about it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭14‬:‭14‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬
 
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Eph 2 - I believe it refers to the 12 - the Apostles of the Lamb

Where does Barnabus fit in?
Or the 70 others?
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I will say if a person is identified as an apostle in The Bible then they are an apostle. But that has noting to do with people today and so that applied title to certain believers back in the early church. Has nothing to do with the function of believers in the church now.
 
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Not sure what Acts 14:4 you are using but.

Now it happened in Iconium that they went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the Greeks believed. But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brethren. Therefore they stayed there a long time, speaking boldly in the Lord, who was bearing witness to the word of His grace, granting signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

But the multitude of the city was divided: part sided with the Jews, and part with the apostles. And when a violent attempt was made by both the Gentiles and Jews, with their rulers, to abuse and stone them, they became aware of it and fled to Lystra and Derbe, cities of Lycaonia, and to the surrounding region. And they were preaching the gospel there.
sorry - typo - Acts 14:14
 
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I will say if a person is identified as an apostle in The Bible then they are an apostle. But that has noting to do with people today and so that applied title to certain believers back in the early church. Has nothing to do with the function of believers in the church now.
Sure it does:

Eph 4:11 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;​
1 Cor 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.​
 
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Sure it does:

Eph 4:11 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;​
1 Cor 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.​
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I disagree the foundation of the church is complete, so there is no apostles now.

having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,
 
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I disagree the foundation of the church is complete, so there is no apostles now.

having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,
ok thanks

Does that mean the church does not have prophets, evangelist, pastors or teachers? Reason I am asking is that Jesus set them in the church at the same time for the same purpose.
 
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Does that mean the church does not have prophets, evangelist, pastors or teachers? Reason I am asking is that Jesus set them in the church at the same time for the same purpose.
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I believe the first two offices apostles and prophets are not being used today by God. As i have stated the foundation of the church has been established and the cannon of scripture is complete.

apostles - one sent forth with authority (that would have included the working of miracles)
prophet - who were spokesmen of God. They gave direct revelation of God that was passed on to the church.
 
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I believe the first two offices apostles and prophets are not being used today by God. As i have stated the foundation of the church has been established and the cannon of scripture is complete.

apostles - one sent forth with authority (that would have included the working of miracles)
prophet - who were spokesmen of God. They gave direct revelation of God that was passed on to the church.
Thank you.
 
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Eph 2 - I believe it refers to the 12 - the Apostles of the Lamb

Where does Barnabus fit in?
Or the 70 others?
And first APOSTLES. means MESSENGERS and will be sitting on 12 Thrones judging Israel , REV 1:6 in. the

MILLENNIAL KINGDOM are then . 12 apostles

The OTHERS are in Eph 4:11 and HE gave , indeed the APOSTLES which. means MESSANGERS

and. the PROPHETS is. one that speaks forth. a Devine message

and EVANGELISTS. means a bringer of good news

and the PASTORS. called SHEPERDS

and teachers.

AND in Eph 4:12 for building up the BODY OF CHRIST

# A IS for Israell

#B Is for the BODY OF CHRIST and to preach ONLY PREACH WHAT Paulb taught in 2 Tim 2:15 , to To PRESENT

yourself accepted by God. a workman HAVING NO SHAME , RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of TRUTH and Paul ONLY

PREACHED the GRACE OF GOD in Romans 16:25 and 2 6. PERIOD

ALL THE 12. APOSTLES. of he 4 GOSPELS N as you now are DEAD ~~

# C The b only A[OSTLES for n n today are ONLY in v the BODY OF CHRIST !!

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A little Biblical history and perspective first.

First and foremost is Jesus Christ -

Heb 3:1Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,​


There is the Original 12:
  • Simon (Peter)
  • Andrew (his brother)
  • James (son of Zebedee)
  • John (his brother)
  • Philip
  • Bartholomew (Nathanael)
  • Thomas (Didymus)
  • Matthew (the tax collector/Levi)
  • James (son of Alphaeus)
  • Thaddaeus (Judas son of James, also called Jude or Lebbaeus)
  • Simon (the Zealot/Cananite)
  • Judas Iscariot (the betrayer, later replaced)
Judas was replaced by Matthias - After Judas Iscariot's death, Matthias was chosen by lot to replace him and is explicitly numbered "with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:26). He is therefore referred to as an apostle. They held a unique position (role) in the Gospels -

Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The Reader will notice that the writers of their Gospels - Luke and Mark were not part of the 12. - yet many refer to them as Apostles


Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. 2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3 And He said to them, “Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. 4 “Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5 And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.”​
The reader will note that the 12 were called disciples when they were with Christ and Apostles when they were sent out -​

Keep reading:

Luke 9:10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done.​
Same 12 people - their titles changed from disciple to apostle because they were sent out on a specific journey.
Luke 10:10 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
Luke 10:17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”​
EXACTLY the same direction from the Lord - EXACTLY the same authority and results.

Apostle - transliterated - apostolos - a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ("apostle") (with miraculous powers):—apostle, messenger, he that is sent.​

Then there is Paul - an Apostle to the Gentiles

Barnabus - Acts 14:4 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out

James - Gal 1:19 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother.

None will ever be to the level of the 12 -

But there are numbers called by God and sent who bear the Title Apostle who preached the Gospel, cast out demons and healed the sick.

When I think of modern times, I think of Dr. Billy Graham, who preached the Gospel to over 1 billion people - ministered to Kings and President, who's ministry saw tens of millions come to Christ for Salvation.

No. But there sure a lot of folks today who think they'd like to be one.
 
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