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[Phil G]

Yes a flat circle, just like the earth.

So a circle doesn't curve then ?

AI over view
A circle is defined by its curve and is constantly turning everywhere, so it does indeed curve.

Your flat earth buddy on here says it is curved like a dish, as in it is convex, curving away from an observer.

 

[Apple Sky]

And as somebody with experience in installing satellite tv equipment, I know for a fact that their explanations are nonsense.

So in other words satellites do supposedly orbit around in space.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your flat earth buddy on here says it is curved like a dish, as in it is convex, curving away from an observer.

Yes like a dish but this does make the moon a sphere as he explains in the video.

 

[Apple Sky]

Therefore satellites in geostationary orbit around a globe earth perfectly explains my experience. And I've yet to see any alternative explanation which even comes close to explaining it!

A Closer Look At Why Satellites Are A Hoax on Flat Earth​

And 'NO' this video is not by Eric Dubay.

 

[Phil G]

So in other words satellites do supposedly orbit around in space.

What I'm saying is that it's the only rational explanation based on my own experience.

Even if I start by assuming nothing. I start by not knowing where the signals come from and reading different explanations for them. I check each explanation against my experience and see does it rationally explain what I have in front of me. If one of those explanations makes absolute sense and the others don't, then that is the one which rationally explains my experience.

And to date, the only one which makes absolute sense, when the others don't even come close, is satellites in geostationary orbit over a globe earth.

What I am asking you is to give me another explanation which would show that satellites in geostationary orbit over a globe earth is not the only explanation which makes sense.

And it should be really really easy to do. Because the evidence should be right there for me to see. So far there is no evidence for the explanations to be even remotely true. For me to accept them as true would require a belief beyond rational thought for a very rational problem.

I'm no fool. If I see a rational explanation for satellite tv signals that means satellites in geostationary orbit over a globe earth don't necessarily exist, then I have something to work with. But so far all I have seen is people who know nothing about what they are saying, or do know but are deliberately being deceptive. It is that obvious to me because of my own knowledge and experience, not my belief.

 

[Phil G]

A Closer Look At Why Satellites Are A Hoax on Flat Earth​

And 'NO' this video is not by Eric Dubay.

Explain this in your own words please. I haven't given you any videos to watch. I have shown that I'm knowledgeable about the subject and can debate it without resorting to videos I can't explain myself.

Also the video says nothing about an alternative explanation of where the satellite tv signals come from.

And this video is as dumb as a rock! He ridicules the idea of a satellite being able to keep up with the rotation of the earth. The guy is cluless. In space, you do not need any propulsion to "keep up" with the earth, just minor corrections over time. You kick a ball in space, it will keep going forever until it hits something. Comparing a flag been let go from a moving car is utter rubbish. It is not like with like.

In short, this guy is either a deceiver or is one of the least knowledgeable people on earth!

 

[Apple Sky]

Explain this in your own words please.

No - Not again, you'll just have too watch it, that is if you really want the truth.

 

[Phil G]

No - Not again, you'll just have too watch it, that is if you really want the truth.

As I edited my last post, I did watch it. And the guy is clueless.

Not only does he not give any alternative for where satellite tv signals come from (which is what I have been asking you), he claims a satellite would not be able to "keep up" with the earth, like a flag been let go from a car would not keep up with the car. In space, there is nothing to slow the satellite down - no atmosphere, no friction, nothing. It's not the same as a moving car on the road. You start something moving at a particular speed in space, it will keep going at that speed with only minor corrections over time.

If that's the caliber of the people you are listening to, stop it! As I have said in my last post, the guy is either a deceiver or one of the least knowledgeable people on earth.

So again, please give me a rational alternative as to where satellite tv signals come from if not from satellites in geostationary orbit over the earth, and don't give me any more videos which show a complete lack of any understanding of facts, let alone addressing the issue I have been asking you for.

 

[Strong in Him]

Just a small correction, my work didn't involve satellites. One of my hobbies/interests has always been radio and tv. So my experience with satellite tv is purely from a personal interest and learning how to set up the equipment and learning what it is designed to do.

Sorry.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because you can't prove that satellites are up in space supposedly orbiting around.

You can't prove that they're not - even you have shown photos of satellite dishes that are pointed at the sky.

 

[Apple Sky]

As I edited my last post, I did watch it. And the guy is clueless.

Not only does he not give any alternative for where satellite tv signals come from (which is what I have been asking you), he claims a satellite would not be able to "keep up" with the earth, like a flag been let go from a car would not keep up with the car. In space, there is nothing to slow the satellite down - no atmosphere, no friction, nothing. It's not the same as a moving car on the road. You start something moving at a particular speed in space, it will keep going at that speed with only minor corrections over time.

If that's the caliber of the people you are listening to, stop it! As I have said in my last post, the guy is either a deceiver or one of the least knowledgeable people on earth.

So again, please give me a rational alternative as to where satellite tv signals come from if not from satellites in geostationary orbit over the earth, and don't give me any more videos which show a complete lack of any understanding of facts, let alone addressing the issue I have been asking you for.

OK - So you refuse to watch the videos for the truth, well stop asking me to explain them.

 

[Phil G]

Sorry.

Not a problem

 

[Apple Sky]

You can't prove that they're not - even you have shown photos of satellite dishes that are pointed at the sky.

No I cant but like you say 'given all the evidence'

 

[Strong in Him]

They did fake it.

Well you have to say that, because they saw the 24 hour sun. Dean Odel publicly said that if there is a 24 hour sun at the Antarctic, then the earth is a globe.
The trouble is that neither he, nor you, want to admit that a number of people saw the 24 hour sun for themselves. That would destroy your beliefs and he would have to publicly admit that he was wrong. Obviously neither of you are willing to do that - so the best thing to do is to accuse others of lying.

They haven't as the moon is flat & not a sphere

Charles Duke - and others - proved it was when they walked on it.
You don't want to believe that either, so you accuse them of lying. Even though one is a born again Christian and has no reason to lie.

 

[Phil G]

OK - So you refuse to watch the videos for the truth, well stop asking me to explain them.

I just told you I watched it!!!

And the guy makes no sense. And I told you why.

So stop posting videos that 1) do not address the issue I have been asking you about, and 2) are a clear twisting of facts.

 

[Strong in Him]

OK - So you refuse to watch the videos for the truth,

What part of "I did watch it" did you not understand? Post #971.

 

[Strong in Him]

No I cant but like you say 'given all the evidence'

You haven't given any.

 

[Apple Sky]

Charles Duke - and others - proved it was when they walked on it.

Really - How did they prove it ?

 

[Phil G]

Really - How did they prove it ?

Eyewitness testimony before God. Something none of your flat earth gurus have.

 

[Apple Sky]

I just told you I watched it!!!

Sorry so you did.