Be Instructed Judah

[Douggg]

This is what makes your assertions and opinions, into a joke.
The Jews are not the House of Israel.

Stop with the sarcasm.

Ezekiel 38-39 is referring to Israel in the latter days, latter years (Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16). The modern day nation of Israel is made up of mostly, unbelieving in Jesus, Jews.

These verses in Ezekiel 39:23-24 refer to the Jews, who went into captivity in 70 AD.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

in Ezekiel 39:23-24 above, Jesus states when the house of Israel went into captivity, it was because they trespassed against Him - i.e. rejecting Him as their King of Israel, and messiah. Jesus, therefore, hide His face from them, i.e causing what is called blindness of the Jews in Romans 11:25.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Everything is in place, keras.

 

[keras]

These verses in Ezekiel 39:23-24 refer to the Jews, who went into captivity in 70 AD.

Ezekiel spoke directly to the House of Israel, who went into exile circa 712BC.
The people Jesus came to save and them alone. Matthew 15:24
He succeeded in His Mission, by the Apostles, and we Christian peoples are the result.

The belief of a general Jewish redemption is wrong and contradicts Jesus' Words as well as the OT Prophets.

Everything is in place, keras.

Yes; soon the entire Middle East will be depopulated and we Christian peoples can go to live in our heritage. Ezekiel 36:22-28

 

[Douggg]

Ezekiel spoke directly to the House of Israel, who went into exile circa 712BC.
The people Jesus came to save and them alone. Matthew 15:24
He succeeded in His Mission, by the Apostles, and we Christian peoples are the result.

The belief of a general Jewish redemption is wrong and contradicts Jesus' Words as well as the OT Prophets.

Who is blind to Jesus being the savior in verse 25 ? Who will be saved in verse 24, after the times of the Gentiles ? Is the modern day nation of Israel not made up mostly of, unbelieving in Jesus, Jews ?

Roman 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

[keras]

This thread is about the Lord's punishment of Judah, the Jewish State of Israel.
Paul clearly says that only a remnant of Israel/Judah, will be saved. Also Isaiah 6:11-13, Isaiah 29:1-4, +
Any other scripture or belief, must not contradict this.

The 'All Israel that will be saved', must mean the spiritual Israelites of God; the faithful Christian believers, as per Galatians 6:14-16.

 

[Douggg]

The 'All Israel that will be saved', must mean the spiritual Israelites of God; the faithful Christian believers, as per Galatians 6:14-16.

The spritual Israelites of God (faithful Christian believers) have been blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles (non-Jews) has been completed ?

No, keras, in Romans 11:25, it is the Jewish unbelievers of Israel who have been blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles has been completed.

The Jews will not turn to Jesus until the middle of the 7 years. And as it says in Ezekiel 39:22 at the time of Jesus's return, the house of Israel will believe that Jesus is the LORD their God from that day and forward.


Roman 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

[keras]

The spritual Israelites of God (faithful Christian believers) have been blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles (non-Jews) has been completed ?

Plainly; it is the Jews who are blinded.
Also plainly: the Jews are mostly gone after the Lords Day of wrath:

Jeremiah 12:14-16 These are the Words of the Lord: I am against all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land that My Israelite people will inherit. Take note; I will pluck them out from where they are now and also I will pluck out the House of Judah as well. After I have removed them, I will return to have compassion on them, bringing them back to their heritage, if they will diligently learn the Way of My people, to only swear by My Name: the Living God. But if they refuse, then I will completely remove and destroy them.

This Bible passage is extremely informative, it gives the Lord’s plans for three groups of people: -

1/ The evil neighbours; The Islamic nations and entities surrounding Israel. Soon to be cleared out of the entire Middle East region by the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath by fire from the sun. Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 30:25-30, Amos 1:1-11, 2:1-5, Revelation 6:12-17

2/ The House of Judah, the Jewish people, currently inhabiting a part of the holy Land. The same fate as the neighbours, but a remnant will be saved. Isaiah 6:11-13, Zechariah 13:8-9, Romans 9:27

3/ My people; the true Israelites- Overcomers for God, every Christian believer; individuals from every tribe, race, nation and language. Followers of the right Way, Jesus: John 14:6, Revelation 5:9-10, 1 Peter 2:9-10

The story described here, is clear and concise: The Lord is about to solve all the Middle East problems, to a similar degree as how He reset civilization in Noah’s time. All the holy land will be depopulated, Zephaniah 14-18, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 10:18, excepting a small remnant of Messianic Jews who will shelter in bunkers in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

This will allow the gathering and settling of His righteous Christian people into their heritage where they will, at last be the people He always wanted there; a people who will be His witnesses and display His Light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27, Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:14-16

 

[Douggg]

Plainly; it is the Jews who are blinded.

The Jews are blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles has been completed. So the time is coming when the Jews will no longer be blinded and will turn to Jesus and all Israel will be saved.

The story described here, is clear and concise: The Lord is about to solve all the Middle East problems, to a similar degree as how He reset civilization in Noah’s time. All the holy land will be depopulated, Zephaniah 14-18, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 10:18, excepting a small remnant of Messianic Jews who will shelter in bunkers in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

This will allow the gathering and settling of His righteous Christian people into their heritage where they will, at last be the people He always wanted there; a people who will be His witnesses and display His Light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27, Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:14-16

No, the Gog/Magog attack of Ezekiel 38-39 will be on the current nation of Israel.

 

[keras]

The Jews are blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles has been completed. So the time is coming when the Jews will no longer be blinded and will turn to Jesus and all Israel will be saved.

God will not save anyone who hates Jesus.

No, the Gog/Magog attack of Ezekiel 38-39 will be on the current nation of Israel.

Scripturally impossible.
Jewish Israel is very well defended. Gog will attack an undefended people.

Making wild and unbelievable statements as you do, destroys your credibility.

 

[Douggg]

God will not save anyone who hates Jesus.

keras, the Jews attitude toward Jesus is going to completely change. Also, do you know that modern day Jews (Judaism) consider Jesus a "failed messiah" ? They don't "hate" Jesus. They just don't believe that he is the messiah, nor do they believe in the gospel of salvation in Christ, nor do they believe that Jesus is the LORD their God.

Scripturally impossible.
Jewish Israel is very well defended. Gog will attack an undefended people.

The land of Israel, as a nation, was desolate until the Jews returned following WWII. Israel is not capable on its own to defend itself against the size of the Gog/Magog attacking force.

Look at Ezekiel 38. Does it say that Gog/Magog is going to attack a nation that formed following a solar flare event that destroyed it's previous population ?

 

[keras]

Look at Ezekiel 38. Does it say that Gog/Magog is going to attack a nation that formed following a solar flare event that destroyed it's previous population ?

It does.
Ezekiel 38:8-12 You will invade a land restored from ruin, whose people are brought out from the nations and are now prosperous and living undisturbed, without any defences.
Zephaniah 1:18 is just one of many prophesies that clearly describe the Holy Land depopulated - cleared and cleansed of all that pollutes it.

Jeremiah says it plainly; Judahs land and houses will be given to others.

They don't "hate" Jesus.

But the Jews do reject Jesus and they belong to the synagogue of Satan.
MANY Prophesies tell of their virtual demise and how only a Christian remnant will survive.

The idea of a Jewish redemption is wrong and is never stated in the Bible.
Please; no more unsupported opinion. Scriptural truths only!

 

[Douggg]

It does.
Ezekiel 38:8-12 You will invade a land restored from ruin, whose people are brought out from the nations and are now prosperous and living undisturbed, without any defences.

keras, there is no mention of a solar flare event in that verse.