The Criminal Records of the illegal immigrants arrested in LA

[rambot]

No police don't. They don't have leftist radicals following them around, filming them for the purpose of doxing them so they and their families can be harassed and threatened. If this kind of stuff was happening to police officers you can bet there would be some serious repercussions and we would probably see face covered cops.

Lol...yeah.
Police never get harassed.


You guys just allow Trump the widest legal swath possible...and then take a couple more inches in the name of safety...isn't there a money quote about that from some old timer down there?

That's right! Ol "Benny F"
""Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety". The burn is you aren't even giving up your OWN liberty. You're forcing OTHERS to give it up.

So I guess you guys deserve neither safety nor liberty. At least according to bEn Franklin....but he was an idiot so...

 

[Vambram]

I swear to you, if I would have meant to say illegal force I would have done so. You're trying to create a strawman.

I guess you're not great at making comparisons.


ICE agents being unable and/or to deal with their faces and badge numbers being shown. That is not a police force.

If progressive left wing liberal activists would not be doxxing the ICE agents, then the ICE agents would not be wearing masks.

 

[rambot]

I explained that they have the legal right but you ignored that.

Do undercover police have the RIGHT to randomly grab people off teh street and shove them in a van?

That feels like a "news to me" moment.

 

[rambot]

If progressive left wing liberal activists would not be doxxing the ICE agents, then the ICE agents would not be wearing masks.

IF the rule of law were important to you, they would not be wearing masks.

 

[Vambram]

IF the rule of law were important to you, they would not be wearing masks.

The rule of law is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. The safety of law enforcement officers and their families is also EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. But, perhaps not to you.

 

[rambot]

The rule of law is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. The safety of law enforcement officers and their families is also EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. But, perhaps not to you.

And so then you can prosecute those people those that dox. Am I to believe no one has ever been charged with violence against a cop or their family before?

The rule of law, in a society that wants to improve, is important.

All of this "I guess because you care about the rule of law, the safety of other people isn't important to you" it seems so juvenile. Go ahead and think that I guess. You can be wrong about me.


Do you seriously think that ICE's job is EASIER now that they are all covered up? FRankly, they are lucky they are not getting shot. If someone came into my house without any identifier threatenning me, I'd feel 100% justified in shooting them. You know how easy it is to just say "This is Ice" and then dress up like them? AND in unmarked cars?

Come on. It's like their SOLE purpose is to try to strike fear.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

And so then you can prosecute those people those that dox. Am I to believe no one has ever been charged with violence against a cop or their family before?

The rule of law, in a society that wants to improve, is important.

All of this "I guess because you care about the rule of law, the safety of other people isn't important to you" it seems so juvenile. Go ahead and think that I guess. You can be wrong about me.


Do you seriously think that ICE's job is EASIER now that they are all covered up? FRankly, they are lucky they are not getting shot. If someone came into my house without any identifier threatenning me, I'd feel 100% justified in shooting them. You know how easy it is to just say "This is Ice" and then dress up like them? AND in unmarked cars?

Come on. It's like their SOLE purpose is to try to strike fear.

Why on earth would you want to expose the families of law enforcement to become victims of a vigilante mob only to expect the criminal justice system to deal with the aftermath?! This is insane! How about you show your true identity with your full name and address and just trust that the system will eventually take care of things after you are exposed and doxed? So please, I know your true name is not "Rambot" so why will you not give the internet your full identity? No, I am not expecting you to do so, nor am I requesting you to do so. My point is simple, if you want law enforcement to expose themselves and their families to nefarious actors, set the example and do the same. Otherwise, it would be best if you drop the act.

 

[Hentenza]

Do undercover police have the RIGHT to randomly grab people off teh street and shove them in a van?

That feels like a "news to me" moment.

Nope but you just moved the goal posts. We were talking about wearing masks and not having their badges showing. As far as grabbing people off the streets the Supreme Court validated ICE permission to do so which I am not in full agreement with.

 

[rambot]

Nope but you just moved the goal posts.

It's not moving goal posts to suggest you compare apples and apples.

We were talking about wearing masks and not having their badges showing. As far as grabbing people off the streets the Supreme Court validated ICE permission to do so which I am not in full agreement with.

I was only pointing that, this is ANOTHER difference in how these two groups operate and why a comparison between the two isn't necessarily apt.

 

[Hentenza]

It's not moving goal posts to suggest you compare apples and apples.



I was only pointing that, this is ANOTHER difference in how these two groups operate and why a comparison between the two isn't necessarily apt.

But they do have permission to stop people on the street and throw them in a van.

 

[Vambram]

And so then you can prosecute those people those that dox. Am I to believe no one has ever been charged with violence against a cop or their family before?

The rule of law, in a society that wants to improve, is important.

All of this "I guess because you care about the rule of law, the safety of other people isn't important to you" it seems so juvenile. Go ahead and think that I guess. You can be wrong about me.


Do you seriously think that ICE's job is EASIER now that they are all covered up? FRankly, they are lucky they are not getting shot. If someone came into my house without any identifier threatenning me, I'd feel 100% justified in shooting them. You know how easy it is to just say "This is Ice" and then dress up like them? AND in unmarked cars?

Come on. It's like their SOLE purpose is to try to strike fear.

In my opinion, you appear to care more about illegal immigrants than you do for the safety of law enforcement officers and their families.

 

[rambot]

Why on earth would you want to expose the families of law enforcement to become victims of a vigilante mob only to expect the criminal justice system to deal with the aftermath?!

Well because for better or worse, that's the rules. I guess you could change the rules and fULLY ACCEPT that you are advocating for a police state.

No accountability for individuals in a police force? You are talking about insane down below but no accountability for individuals who represent the government is literally the entire reason for the 2nd ammendment. Hence, if someone would break in my house without visible identifiers, they'd get shot (if I lived down in the US).

This is insane! How about you show your true identity with your full name and address and just trust that the system will eventually take care of things after you are exposed and doxed? So please, I know your true name is not "Rambot" so why will you not give the internet your full identity? No, I am not expecting you to do so, nor am I requesting you to do so. My point is simple, if you want law enforcement to expose themselves and their families to nefarious actors, set the example and do the same. Otherwise, it would be best if you drop the act.

I do my job.
My students know my first and last name.
MORE than half of my class knows EXACTLY where I live. They know my age and figure out my birthday when I tell them it's my birthday.

So thank you.

I am SETTING THE EXAMPLE of being a "government employee who is accountable to the public".


You can see, I AM actually "doing the same" and being consistent. And I'm SURE that you'd accept the logic there.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Well because for better or worse, that's the rules. I guess you could change the rules and fULLY ACCEPT that you are advocating for a police state.

No accountability for individuals in a police force? You are talking about insane down below but no accountability for individuals who represent the government is literally the entire reason for the 2nd ammendment. Hence, if someone would break in my house without visible identifiers, they'd get shot (if I lived down in the US).




I do my job.
My students know my first and last name.
MORE than half of my class knows EXACTLY where I live. They know my age and figure out my birthday when I tell them it's my birthday.

So thank you.

I am SETTING THE EXAMPLE of being a "government employee who is accountable to the public".


You can see, I AM actually "doing the same" and being consistent. And I'm SURE that you'd accept the logic there.

Then again. Show an example and disclosing your full name and address. You are using a false name to protect your true identity because you know darn well that you could not get aways with telling your students what you say on these forums.Why would you, not without coming across as a hypocrite? All I am asking you to do is to do the exact same thing you are demanding of ICE agents. I do not care what you claim to have shared with your supposed students. I am asking you right now to put your money where your mouth is, and do the exact thing you are demanding of federal agents. So please, your full name and physical address.

Note: just for clarity my point is not to make you do this, but to expose the fact you are unwilling to do the very thing you are demanding of law enforcement.

 

[rambot]

Then again. Show an example and disclosing your full name and address. Why would you not without coming across as a hypocrite? All I am asking you to do is to do the exact same thin you are demanding of ICE agents.

Why is this a reply?
Did you not see the 2nd half of my post that explains how I do....EXACTLY what I would expect of them?
Every BEHAVIOUR students i've had in my class for the last 6 years has known my name AND address. I've had students who show me my house on google drive with a glint in their eye; seen kids show me my facebook.
But you know what?

When I do MY job, I work within the parameters of the law and I'm not an ahole. That's about it.

In your first post you suggested you didn't "request" me to share my info. Now it seems like you're pushing in that direction.

 

[Hentenza]

Why is this a reply?
Did you not see the 2nd half of my post that explains how I do....EXACTLY what I would expect of them?
Every BEHAVIOUR students i've had in my class for the last 6 years has known my name AND address. I've had students who show me my house on google drive with a glint in their eye; seen kids show me my facebook.
But you know what?

When I do MY job, I work within the parameters of the law and I'm not an ahole. That's about it.

In your first post you suggested you didn't "request" me to share my info. Now it seems like you're pushing in that direction.

I’m sorry but I don’t see where you being a teacher and an ICE agent have equal levels of danger. Hopefully none of the kids that you teach are possible criminals or gang members. And hopefully you don’t have a bunch of lunatic activists trying to dox you to those very criminals and gang members.

I taught at a university for a bit and always guarded my information. No reason to expose me and my family to some body that I failed or just didn’t like something I said. Those dangers are very real.

 

[rambot]

I’m sorry but I don’t see where you being a teacher and an ICE agent have equal levels of danger. Hopefully none of the kids that you teach are possible criminals or gang members. And hopefully you don’t have a bunch of lunatic activists trying to dox you to those very criminals and gang members.

I taught at a university for a bit and always guarded my information. No reason to expose me and my family to some body that I failed or just didn’t like something I said. Those dangers are very real.

I'm not equating it at all.

But if you dont like the job because it isn't safe don't take the job. Seems easy.

But I am being consistent.

Foe the record though I did at a youth treatment facility with plenty of gang members a d other "miscreants" and I never hid my name or face. We were not permitted so WE didn't have e a choice.

They way policew officers in the US don't have have a choice.

 

[Hentenza]

I'm not equating it at all.

So why did you tell your story using the things that you did as a teacher that ICE does not do?

But if you dont like the job because it isn't safe don't take the job. Seems easy.

The far left would just love that. No ICE, open borders for all.

But I am being consistent.

Mmmmm…..

Foe the record though I did at a youth treatment facility with plenty of gang members a d other "miscreants" and I never hid my name or face. We were not permitted so WE didn't have e a choice.

But did you give them your address?

They way policew officers in the US don't have have a choice.

All police used masks during Covid and some still do.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Why is this a reply?
Did you not see the 2nd half of my post that explains how I do....EXACTLY what I would expect of them?
Every BEHAVIOUR students i've had in my class for the last 6 years has known my name AND address. I've had students who show me my house on google drive with a glint in their eye; seen kids show me my facebook.
But you know what?

When I do MY job, I work within the parameters of the law and I'm not an ahole. That's about it.

In your first post you suggested you didn't "request" me to share my info. Now it seems like you're pushing in that direction.

I have yet to hear a name and address. Why? Because you are afraid of the danger. The same danger your are demanding that the families of law enforcement should endure.

 

[rambot]

In my opinion, you appear to care more about illegal immigrants than you do for the safety of law enforcement officers and their families.

Well then you may not be a good reader and choose to create a straw man.


I care about the rule of law above all those things mentioned.

I guess I could post it, like, I dunno, an eighth time but what would be the point?

 

[rambot]

I have yet to hear a name and address. Why? Because you are afraid of the danger. The same danger your are demanding that the families of law enforcement should endure.

ROFL! I knew it. Look at you ....."not that I am requesting it" pffft

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