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But u know which Hell I am talking about, right? Or you don't and I can specify
You can specify, so that we do not need to guess.
 
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How are "criticism" and "critique" different functionally?
Criticism condemns someone for their perceived faults. Critiquing points out the good and bad aspects but also points how the why and how it may be remedied. Which did God and Jesus do?
 
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You can specify, so that we do not need to guess.
Okay, I will specify since you have no idea what Hell I am talking about. Others did, but for some reason you have no idea but that's fine.

The Hell I am talking about is the Hell mentioned in the Bible that is described as a place of eternal punishment and separation from God where the Devil and all his demons reside.

Pretty sure it's the Hell you were referencing with a lower "h," but if not then please explain what Hell you were referring to
 
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Criticism condemns someone for their perceived faults. Critiquing points out the good and bad aspects but also points how the why and how it may be remedied. Which did God and Jesus do?
Critique involves analysis and evaluation. You can analyze and evaluate someone as a person who is going to Hell and showcase this by saying "you are going to Hell." Condemnation can come from a critique.

God criticized and critiqued. They are very closely related synonyms to each to other. Definitionally, pretty much the same.
 
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You can analyze and evaluate someone as a person
NO, you evaluate what they are doing and say this can lead to rejection from the Kingdom. Deed, not doer. Then show why we, as a species, are backwards and in need of repentance.
 
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Okay, I will specify since you have no idea what Hell I am talking about. Others did, but for some reason you have no idea but that's fine.
I did not say I have no idea what hell you are talking about. I said you can specify so that we do not need to guess. Of course it was probable you are talking about some mixture of cultural and religious ideas, something like the lake of fire from the Revelation.

The Hell I am talking about is the Hell mentioned in the Bible that is described as a place of eternal punishment and separation from God where the Devil and all his demons reside.
Do you know which it is? Gehenna, sheol, tartaros or hádés? Because I do not know of any where devil or demons reside. Don't you stick to Bible in these things?
 
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Depends on what you mean by "condemn"...because testifying that the world is already condemned is different from personally condemning people. But how we do so is not through moralizing and calling people sinners, but by carrying ourselves in a way that confronts them with the truth. When we give our enemies drink, and food, we testify to their evil and pour hot coals over their head. Whether those coals are coals of judgment or coals of purification depends on their heart. But so long as we speak truth and keep our garments clean, the condemnation that sits on the world will be known far more clearly than getting on a bullhorn and calling non-believers sinners.
 
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"Fire and brimstone evangelism is usually a non starter for those who need to know our loving Father. If we don't spread the " Good News" first, then how would it ever lead one into Salvation? I always start with this verse, a powerful message on LOVE:"

There are people who know the Gospel but don't realize they are doing something wrong and would be better off hearing the Law.
But if a person does not know that their disobedience of God, what the bible calls "sin," deserves only God's righteous judgment, what reason would they have for coming to believe that they need a Saviour?
 
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"No. First, human beings do not have the power to assign anyone to Hell."

But people have the capability to condemn people to Hell. They can do this by saying, "You are going to Hell."
But that isn't actually condemning them to hell. As has been said many times on this thread, only God can do that. We can say that in God's sight, all human beings are sinners, and as such deserve only judgment from God, so we need a Saviour. It should go without saying that when we do tell people things like that, we should do so in humility and love.
 
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Should Christians condemn people to Hell?

After answering, explain why
I am, as of about 20 minutes ago, finished with this stuff.

My opinion:
The west is sorely lacking the redemption story.

I think I have had enough of hearing about the sins people committed in the past.

I want to hear stories of where people had been a monster, but changed their ways and willfully chose to be good (to the best of their abilities).

From now on, I am going to focus on redemption stories.

We are all monsters and victims both at the same time - Im going to focus on and support people who chose goodness as a worthy pursuit and courageously strove for that - even though they could have sat around under condemnation from society.
 
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What is the message Christians should send?

The Church's vocation is to proclaim repentance and forgiveness in Christ's name.

Each individual Christian vocation is different. And the shape of your ministry isn't going to look like mine--because your circumstances and your vocation isn't the same. The vocation of being a mother to a teenager looks different than the vocation of a judge in a criminal case. But both the mother and the judge are called to carry a cross and follow the One and Same Jesus Christ.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Should Christians condemn people to Hell?

After answering, explain why
Judgment belongs to God alone: Judging and condemning someone's eternal fate is solely God's prerogative.
 
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Frankly it sounds a little judgmental and full of condemnation. :)
Then may be you did not read what I wrote > for just a couple of examples >

But love "hopes all things", we have in 1 Corinthians 13:7. In God's love we have hope for any evil person, at all. Jesus died with hope for any and all people to be saved >

"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." (1 John 2:2)

Consider how well Jesus will do it. How we can condemn now is so inferior; so why share with Satan in his inferiority?? Now we can love with Jesus, how He was loving, on the cross; and this is commanded >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

Jesus on the cross was "sweet-smelling" > so pleasing to our Father. But our ways of condemning are not about being sweetly pleasing to our Father.

Frankly it sounds a little judgmental and full of condemnation. :)
Well, what I share above does condemn how humans in sin can be selfishly loving, versus how we can love, in Jesus way of loving. And Jesus does judge selfish ways of loving, right? For example > Jesus says >

"if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46)

So, we do need to evaluate.

"Test all things; hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

Where you say "already" . . . I thought it was a reference how Jesus says the one who does not believe is condemned "already". And then I offered more, about what is good and what isn't, meaning indeed to condemn what is selfish and worldly, and honor how God is able to have us living and loving, instead.
 
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