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The Abrahamic and Sinai Covenants: Two Distinct Pillars of God's Plan

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The Abrahamic and Sinai Covenants: Two Distinct Pillars of God's Plan

Many today wonder whether the covenant made with Abraham is the same as the one given at Mount Sinai, or whether one replaces the other. According to Scripture, the Abrahamic Covenant and the Sinai Covenant are two distinct covenants. They serve different purposes, were given at different times, and are not mutually exclusive. One does not cancel or replace the other, but both are part of God's unfolding plan. To be valid, however, any covenant requires both parties to accept and uphold their agreement.

The Abrahamic Covenant was given long before the law at Sinai. It is centered on God's promises to Abraham and his descendants. In Genesis 17:7, God says, "And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you." This covenant was unconditional, built on God's word alone, and it included promises of land, a great nation, and that through Abraham all nations of the earth would be blessed. It was sealed with a sign—circumcision.

In contrast, the Sinai Covenant was given to the children of Israel after their exodus from Egypt. It was a conditional covenant based on obedience to God’s commandments. In Exodus 19:5-6, God says, "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people..." This covenant included the Ten Commandments, along with civil and ceremonial laws. Its sign was the Sabbath, as written in Exodus 31:16-17: "Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath... for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever."

Though they are different, Scripture never teaches that one replaces the other. In fact, God continually refers back to the Abrahamic Covenant even after the giving of the law. In Leviticus 26:42, God says, "Then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember..." This proves that God keeps His promises and sees the Abrahamic covenant as still active, even when Israel fails to uphold the Sinai covenant.

The prophet Micah also testifies to this in Micah 7:20: "You will give truth to Jacob and mercy to Abraham, which You have sworn to our fathers from days of old." This shows that the covenant with Abraham remains alive, grounded in mercy and promise, while the covenant with Israel at Sinai was based on truth and responsibility.

When Jesus came, He did not erase either covenant. He confirmed the promises made to Abraham and fulfilled the requirements of the law. In Luke 1:72-73, Zacharias proclaims under the Holy Spirit, "To perform the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham." And in Matthew 5:17, Jesus says, "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

Jesus did not cancel the law, nor did He replace the promise. Instead, He revealed their deeper meaning and brought them together in Himself. The Abrahamic covenant lives on through faith, and the Sinai covenant is written in the hearts of those who love God, as promised in Jeremiah 31:33: "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."

But just like any covenant, both the Abrahamic and Sinai covenants require agreement. God's promises are sure, but they must be received. The law is holy, but it must be embraced by a willing heart. A covenant is only fully alive when both sides honor it. This is why Jesus calls His followers to not only believe, but to obey. As He said in Luke 6:46, "Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?"

In the end, both covenants stand as two pillars of God's relationship with His people. The Abrahamic Covenant reveals God’s unbreakable promise. The Sinai Covenant reveals His holy standard. One flows into the other. The promise leads to the law written in the heart. The inheritance of Abraham is received by faith, and that faith leads to obedience, not lawlessness.

God never broke either covenant. He is still waiting for His people to agree with Him, to walk in His ways, and to accept the fullness of what He has promised and commanded. These two covenants together show the beauty of God’s plan: mercy, truth, faith, and obedience working together in harmony.
 

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This covenant was unconditional,
It was a conditional covenant and required the condition of circumsion as a sign of the covenant unambigously in the flesh. If you did not comply you "will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant" v14. Obedience indeed was required.
Sinai covenant is written in the hearts of those who love God, as promised in Jeremiah 31:33: "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
This is not the Sinai covenant, this is the new covenant.

31-32 The days are coming,” declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt
, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.

This directly tells us it is not the covenant from of sinai, it is a new one. Laws written upon your heart are of the spirit, living and dynamic, not of stone, ridged and of legalism.
But just like any covenant, both the Abrahamic and Sinai covenants require agreement
That's the point of the sign. Implicit agreement of the covenant.

There is no Sinaic covenant without the Abrahamic covenant. Like creation God needed to organise before he could fill up. This is a process that starts with Adam and all the patriarchs. Abraham is a major step to the point that being God's chosen was akin to being Abraham's son. This is what stings so hard in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, Lazarus is embraced by Abraham and counted as a son, the rich man was cast aside similar to how to the penalty of rejcting circumcison.

Abrahamic covenant introduces the promise as well as an identity of God's choosen. The sinaic covenant is a focus like a polemic of surrounding cultural civility and order to separate the Israelites from the rest through law and order and with that ceremony and ritual with deep spiritual meanings. God still calls us to have no other gods before him, but the call to monotheism is a different perspective today. Still needed for some but for many monotheism is already practiced, yet salvation through Christ still needed. The new covenant is Christ focused and about serving each other and a call to go out and reach people.
 
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The Abrahamic and Sinai Covenants: Two Distinct Pillars of God's Plan
Many today wonder whether the covenant made with Abraham is the same as the one given at Mount Sinai, or whether one replaces the other. According to Scripture, the Abrahamic Covenant and the Sinai Covenant are two distinct covenants. They serve different purposes, were given at different times, and are not mutually exclusive. One does not cancel or replace the other, but both are part of God's unfolding plan. To be valid, however, any covenant requires both parties to accept and uphold their agreement.

The Abrahamic Covenant was given long before the law at Sinai. It is centered on God's promises to Abraham and his descendants. In Genesis 17:7, God says, "And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you." This covenant was unconditional, built on God's word alone, and it included promises of land, a great nation, and that through Abraham all nations of the earth would be blessed. It was sealed with a sign—circumcision.

In contrast, the Sinai Covenant was given to the children of Israel after their exodus from Egypt. It was a conditional covenant based on obedience to God’s commandments. In Exodus 19:5-6, God says, "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people..." This covenant included the Ten Commandments, along with civil and ceremonial laws. Its sign was the Sabbath, as written in Exodus 31:16-17: "Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath... for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever."

Though they are different, Scripture never teaches that one replaces the other. In fact, God continually refers back to the Abrahamic Covenant even after the giving of the law. In Leviticus 26:42, God says, "Then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember..." This proves that God keeps His promises and sees the Abrahamic covenant as still active, even when Israel fails to uphold the Sinai covenant.

The prophet Micah also testifies to this in Micah 7:20: "You will give truth to Jacob and mercy to Abraham, which You have sworn to our fathers from days of old." This shows that the covenant with Abraham remains alive, grounded in mercy and promise, while the covenant with Israel at Sinai was based on truth and responsibility.

When Jesus came, He did not erase either covenant. He confirmed the promises made to Abraham and fulfilled the requirements of the law. In Luke 1:72-73, Zacharias proclaims under the Holy Spirit, "To perform the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham." And in Matthew 5:17, Jesus says, "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

Jesus did not cancel the law, nor did He replace the promise. Instead, He revealed their deeper meaning and brought them together in Himself. The Abrahamic covenant lives on through faith, and the Sinai covenant is written in the hearts of those who love God, as promised in Jeremiah 31:33: "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."

But just like any covenant, both the Abrahamic and Sinai covenants require agreement. God's promises are sure, but they must be received. The law is holy, but it must be embraced by a willing heart. A covenant is only fully alive when both sides honor it. This is why Jesus calls His followers to not only believe, but to obey. As He said in Luke 6:46, "Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?"
In the end, both covenants stand as two pillars of God's relationship with His people. The Abrahamic Covenant reveals God’s unbreakable promise. The Sinai Covenant reveals His holy standard. One flows into the other. The promise leads to the law written in the heart. The inheritance of Abraham is received by faith, and that faith leads to obedience, not lawlessness.
God never broke either covenant.
However, Jesus (Lk 22:20) inaugurated a New Covenant presented in the apostolic teaching (2 Co 3:6, Heb 8:6, 9:15) of Christ (Lk 10:16)
. . .and it is that New Covenant in which God's people are today.
 
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This proves that God keeps His promises and sees the Abrahamic covenant as still active
if it is still active what do you say to the scripture that says


Hebrews 8:13

In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
 
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the question becomes who are the descendants ??
Those with faith

Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
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if it is still active what do you say to the scripture that says

Hebrews 8:13

In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Yes, the Old Covenant or agreement has vanished, but God in His great mercy and love for mankind, wrote a New Covenant, established on better promises Heb 8:6 still has God’s laws, because God keeps His promises Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 but now written on our a better surface our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 not written on stony hearts those who rebel against God’s laws Rom 8:7-8 but those with a heart of flesh Eze 36:26 given a new spirit who by love and willingness keep the commandments of God through the power of the Holy Spirit John 14:15-18 which is a much better promise of trying to keep God’s laws based on our own efforts Exo 19:8
 
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if it is still active what do you say to the scripture that says

Hebrews 8:13

In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
study a bit more about what paul considers obsolete, if you cant find , i will help
 
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the question becomes who are the descendants ??
Ah, good questions, please consider the lost tribes scattered worldwide. God Knows exactly where all of them are and will recall all of them to the promised land at or shortky after Jesus the messiah second return, soon, just look at the world events, maybe this generation.
 
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Ah, good questions, please consider the lost tribes scattered worldwide. God Knows exactly where all of them are and will recall all of them to the promised land at or shortky after Jesus the messiah second return, soon, just look at the world events, maybe this generation.
Nailing down the rightful heirs to the promise makes us look at the NT for the definition that is now reveled. It seems lot of people think for some reason God made a promise to the ethnic Jew, we if he did it was to the Jews of that day and it has been fulfilled, people always says it was never fulfilled but Gods word is clear.

Joshua 21:43
Thus the LORD gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there.

Kings 8-56
“Blessed be the LORD who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised. Not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he spoke by Moses his servant.


Now we move on to the real heirs of the eternal promise to Abrham and use the NT to see who they are


Romans 4 13-15
13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world was not given through the law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.
14 For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless,
15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law, there is no transgression.
14 For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless,



4-8

“Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations. No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make you into nations, and kings shall come from you. And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.”



Promise to abraham see below, and the real offspring of Abraham not the ethnic Jew

Galatians 3:26-29​

26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on
Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave[g] nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.


In summary Galatians is defining who are Abrahams offsprings, because those who are his offspring are the heirs according to the promise. HIs offspring are those who are in Christ and it does not matter if they are Jew or Greek, of you are in Christ you are Abrhams offspring and heirs. The abrhamic covenant is the promise that Paul is speaking about in Galatians 2


Romans 9
6. It is not as though God’s word has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children. On the contrary, “Through Isaac your offspring will be reckoned.”b 8 So it is not the children of the flesh who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as offspring.


God show no favoritism toward any ethnic group of people, why do men like to elevate the Jews, no one should be elevated but Jesus and Jesus alone.
 
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The Abrahamic and Sinai Covenants: Two Distinct Pillars of God's Plan

Many today wonder whether the covenant made with Abraham is the same as the one given at Mount Sinai,
Nope not the same... It says so right here.
Deut 5;1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. {keep … : Heb. keep to do them }
2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

or whether one replaces the other.
The Abrahamic covenants cannot be disannulled. He swore an oath.
Ga 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
According to Scripture, the Abrahamic Covenant and the Sinai Covenant are two distinct covenants.
Yep.
They serve different purposes, were given at different times, and are not mutually exclusive. One does not cancel or replace the other, but both are part of God's unfolding plan. To be valid, however, any covenant requires both parties to accept and uphold their agreement.
One is an earthly inheritance.
One is an heavenly inheritance.
I believe Genesis 17 shows the son of the birthright, the firstborn..
Kings, royal seed.
Ge 17:6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
Ge 17:16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. {she … : Heb. she shall become nations }


The Abrahamic Covenant was given long before the law at Sinai. It is centered on God's promises to Abraham and his descendants. In Genesis 17:7, God says, "And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you." This covenant was unconditional, built on God's word alone, and it included promises of land, a great nation, and that through Abraham all nations of the earth would be blessed. It was sealed with a sign—circumcision.
Genesis 15 IMO is the inheritance in this world, this life. A shadow of the heavenly inheritance..
In contrast, the Sinai Covenant was given to the children of Israel after their exodus from Egypt.
When we think about this, consider the redemption from Egypt was a fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant. Passover, and it's memorial feast of unleavened bread are memorials to the fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant....
Ex 2:24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.
Ex 6:4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.
Ex 6:5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.

Hence, the Passover sacrifice, and it's memorial belong to The covenant Made with Abraham.
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

It was a conditional covenant based on obedience to God’s commandments. In Exodus 19:5-6, God says, "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people..." This covenant included the Ten Commandments, along with civil and ceremonial laws. Its sign was the Sabbath, as written in Exodus 31:16-17: "Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath... for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever."
The Abrahamic covenant/s law was the law of faith. Which Hebrews speaks of from the beginning.
Though they are different, Scripture never teaches that one replaces the other. In fact, God continually refers back to the Abrahamic Covenant even after the giving of the law. In Leviticus 26:42, God says, "Then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember..." This proves that God keeps His promises and sees the Abrahamic covenant as still active, even when Israel fails to uphold the Sinai covenant.

The prophet Micah also testifies to this in Micah 7:20: "You will give truth to Jacob and mercy to Abraham, which You have sworn to our fathers from days of old." This shows that the covenant with Abraham remains alive, grounded in mercy and promise, while the covenant with Israel at Sinai was based on truth and responsibility.

When Jesus came, He did not erase either covenant. He confirmed the promises made to Abraham and fulfilled the requirements of the law. In Luke 1:72-73, Zacharias proclaims under the Holy Spirit, "To perform the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham." And in Matthew 5:17, Jesus says, "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

Jesus did not cancel the law, nor did He replace the promise. Instead, He revealed their deeper meaning and brought them together in Himself. The Abrahamic covenant lives on through faith, and the Sinai covenant is written in the hearts of those who love God, as promised in Jeremiah 31:33: "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."

But just like any covenant, both the Abrahamic and Sinai covenants require agreement. God's promises are sure, but they must be received. The law is holy, but it must be embraced by a willing heart. A covenant is only fully alive when both sides honor it. This is why Jesus calls His followers to not only believe, but to obey. As He said in Luke 6:46, "Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?"

In the end, both covenants stand as two pillars of God's relationship with His people. The Abrahamic Covenant reveals God’s unbreakable promise. The Sinai Covenant reveals His holy standard. One flows into the other. The promise leads to the law written in the heart. The inheritance of Abraham is received by faith, and that faith leads to obedience, not lawlessness.

God never broke either covenant. He is still waiting for His people to agree with Him, to walk in His ways, and to accept the fullness of what He has promised and commanded. These two covenants together show the beauty of God’s plan: mercy, truth, faith, and obedience working together in harmony.
Two covenants. TWO PORTIONS OF INHERITANCE
Which the firstborn, receives a double portion of all his father has...The son of promise
GaL 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. {covenants: or, testaments } {Sinai: Gr. Sina }
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. {answereth to: or, is in the same rank with }
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

I believe as long as this world, and this life remain, so also will the inheritance of this life exist for the nation of Israel....
We in Christ look for the heavenly inheritance given the firstborn, a portion above the brethren.
 
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Nailing down the rightful heirs to the promise makes us look at the NT for the definition that is now reveled. It seems lot of people think for some reason God made a promise to the ethnic Jew, we if he did it was to the Jews of that day and it has been fulfilled, people always says it was never fulfilled but Gods word is clear.

Joshua 21:43
Thus the LORD gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there.

Kings 8-56
“Blessed be the LORD who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised. Not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he spoke by Moses his servant.


Now we move on to the real heirs of the eternal promise to Abrham and use the NT to see who they are


Romans 4 13-15
13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world was not given through the law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.
14 For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless,
15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law, there is no transgression.
14 For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless,



4-8

“Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations. No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make you into nations, and kings shall come from you. And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.”



Promise to abraham see below, and the real offspring of Abraham not the ethnic Jew

Galatians 3:26-29​

26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on
Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave[g] nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.


In summary Galatians is defining who are Abrahams offsprings, because those who are his offspring are the heirs according to the promise. HIs offspring are those who are in Christ and it does not matter if they are Jew or Greek, of you are in Christ you are Abrhams offspring and heirs. The abrhamic covenant is the promise that Paul is speaking about in Galatians 2


Romans 9
6. It is not as though God’s word has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children. On the contrary, “Through Isaac your offspring will be reckoned.”b 8 So it is not the children of the flesh who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as offspring.


God show no favoritism toward any ethnic group of people, why do men like to elevate the Jews, no one should be elevated but Jesus and Jesus alone.
I will dig up the references from the prophets of the O.T. this week and will get back to you on this, it is interesting, thank you for the post it is informative.

Blessings.
 
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the question becomes who are the descendants ??
Here is something I have been working on it is not complete yet but for now I give you a first draft;

it will seem far fetched at times but one must see all the verses to accompany this text, use the quoted verses as a reference point. the texts mentioned below are in relation to the end time prophecy and the return of Christ.

The Remnant of Israel and the Second Exodus in the Last Days


Throughout the Old Testament, God speaks of a faithful remnant of Israel—a group that survives judgment and returns to Him with sincere hearts. This remnant is not forgotten or lost in time. They are known by God, scattered across the earth, and will be gathered again in the last days. Their return is not just spiritual; it includes a physical return to the land promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. This return is described as a second exodus, greater than the first, and it is tied directly to the coming of the Messiah.


God Knows Where His People Are


This section shows us that even though the people of Israel were scattered through exile and judgment, God never lost sight of them. The promises of Jeremiah affirm that He sees them, knows them, and plans to bring them home. It emphasizes the deep care God has for His people—even those in distant lands.


Jeremiah 31:10
“He who scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him as a shepherd does his flock.”

Jeremiah 31:16–17
“Refrain your voice from weeping… they shall come back from the land of the enemy… your children shall come back to their own border.”

The Second Exodus Will Be Greater


God promised a second and greater deliverance, more glorious than the Exodus from Egypt. This tells us that His plan of restoration isn’t only historical—it’s prophetic and future. It reveals a worldwide regathering of His people from all nations.


Jeremiah 16:14–15
“It shall no more be said, ‘The Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from Egypt,’ but… ‘from all the lands where He had driven them.’”

Isaiah 11:11–12
“The Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant… and gather together the dispersed of Judah.”

God Will Prepare the Way


God’s return plan includes not only gathering but also making the path safe and holy. These verses speak of highways, guidance, and even imagery of flight—suggesting a powerful and ordered return under God’s direction.


Isaiah 35:8–10
“A highway shall be there… the redeemed shall walk there… and come to Zion with singing.”

Isaiah 49:11–12
“I will make each of My mountains a road… these shall come from afar.”

Isaiah 60:8
“Who are these who fly like a cloud, and like doves to their roosts?”

The Covenant of the Land: God’s Everlasting Oath


These promises remind us that the land was not a temporary reward—it was part of an everlasting covenant. Even when Israel was unfaithful, God remembered His oath to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The restoration of the land is a key sign of the end-time fulfillment.


Genesis 17:7–8
“I give… all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession.”

Jeremiah 30:3
“I will bring back… and cause them to return to the land I gave to their fathers.”

Ezekiel 20:42
“You shall know that I am the Lord when I bring you into the land I promised.”

Gentiles Will Also Join Israel


God’s plan of salvation always included the gentiles. These verses make it clear that those who join themselves to the Lord will share in His promises and inheritance. It is not about race but about faith and obedience.


Ezekiel 47:21–23
“The strangers… shall be to you as native-born… they shall have an inheritance.”

Isaiah 14:1
“Strangers will be joined with them.”

Zechariah 2:11
“Many nations shall be joined to the Lord… and become My people.”

John 10:16
“Other sheep I have which are not of this fold… there will be one flock.”

The Land Will Be Blessed and Made New


The return includes the physical restoration of the land. What was once desolate will become fertile and alive. This renewal is a sign of God's favor and faithfulness, and it only fully happens under His hand in the end times.


Ezekiel 36:8–11
“O mountains of Israel… shoot forth your branches… the cities shall be inhabited.”

Amos 9:14–15
“I will plant them in their land, and they shall no longer be pulled up.”

Ezekiel 36:25–27
“I will give you a new heart… and cause you to walk in My statutes.”

Matthew 24:31
“He will send His angels… and gather His elect.”

Luke 21:24
“Jerusalem will be trampled… until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.”

God’s Holy Mountain and the Kingdom of Peace


God’s reign will bring peace to all who come to Him. The mountain of the Lord is not just a place—it is where His presence dwells. This kingdom will bring healing, justice, and peace to all nations who seek Him.


Isaiah 2:2–4
“The mountain of the Lord… all nations shall flow to it… they shall learn war no more.”

Micah 4:6–7
“I will assemble the lame… and reign over them in Mount Zion forever.”

Isaiah 56:6–8
“Even them I will bring to My holy mountain… My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

The Role of the Messiah in the Second Exodus


At the center of all this restoration is the Messiah—Jesus. He is the Shepherd who gathers, heals, and leads His people back. His mission began with salvation and will finish with the full restoration of Israel and all who believe.


Isaiah 43:5–6
“I will bring your descendants… gather you from the west.”

Jeremiah 23:3
“I will gather the remnant of My flock.”

John 10:14–16
“I am the good shepherd… there will be one flock and one shepherd.”

Isaiah 61:1–3
“He has sent Me to proclaim liberty… to comfort all who mourn.”

Unity of Judah and Ephraim


God will not just bring His people back physically. He will also heal the historical division between Judah and Israel (Ephraim). These promises show that in the last days, His people will be one again—united in faith and leadership.


Jeremiah 3:18
“The house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel… and come together.”

Ezekiel 37:15–17
“Join them one to another into one stick… they will become one in your hand.”

John 11:52
“He would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad.”
 
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Throughout the Old Testament, God speaks of a faithful remnant of Israel
what's the difference between them and the remnant of the Gentiles?? both have to come to Christ to be saved, as a matter fact God makes it clear there is not difference. All through the NT a remnant of all people, are Gods people, few find the way the gate is narrow that leads to life. The Jews were the first apostles of the church, we are all one in the church, this dividing the people into different groups os a very odd teaching to me and makes no biblical sense at all to me, it seems to elevate a group of people over another

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


so maybe we can focus in on why so many like to divide Gods people when the word of God clearly tells NOT TO. please address Galatians 3-28 thanks for your consideration.
 
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what's the difference between them and the remnant of the Gentiles?? both have to come to Christ to be saved, as a matter fact God makes it clear there is not difference. All through the NT a remnant of all people, are Gods people, few find the way the gate is narrow that leads to life. The Jews were the first apostles of the church, we are all one in the church, this dividing the people into different groups os a very odd teaching to me and makes no biblical sense at all to me, it seems to elevate a group of people over another

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


so maybe we can focus in on why so many like to divide Gods people when the word of God clearly tells NOT TO. please address Galatians 3-28 thanks for your consideration.
I agree there are no differences between Jews, remnants the lost tribes and gentiles, all can come to Christ as written in the bible from the O.T. to the N.T.
 
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