The "God's Plan" Illusion

[Cerraco]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happened. Another thing I see on this forum is threads where people say, "I had a bad thought against God, I'm so going to hell!" This is why I'm not religious, because logic and religion are two concepts that are so far apart that I can't even begin to explain it. Given the rules here, what I can talk about is very limited.

Like I probably described in a few others threads, I went to a macho, alpha redpilled forum for some dating advice, and due to me being a 36-year-old virgin, I was made to feel unspeakably terrible and self-conscious. It opened my eyes to how the world really is, what the world really wants and should want, and it worried me so much that I was in this half-conscious state, that's how bad it was. The world is trapped in high school. I will probably stay alone forever because of how the world works and thinks. Then that led me to why God creates people. Why? Some people are set up to fail. I've actually seen someone reply with "If you don't believe that Christ died for our sins and X, Y and Z, you go to a lake of fire." which is quite possibly the most disgusting and infuriating thing I've ever read. So that means people raised differently are going straight to hell because... they were raised differently? Okay. Cool, what a way to go through life, just assume that 90% of people walking around on Earth are gonna suffer for eternity because they don't think a certain way. Boy, what a loving God, right?

You don't get to have this forgiving, all-loving God but oh by the way he eternally punishes people for what their beliefs are, so pick the right one. You might as say that the Empire State Building is the same thing as a spoon. I never understood how faith works. Even when I was in kindergarten, I looked forward to getting old and dying eventually because I'd be done with that Earth crap and just go to straight to heaven, hopefully, if it existed. We all have lives we didn't ask for. Over 4 billion people do not have a unique purpose in this life, especially when a lot of them are invisible people, and some who die young before any impact was made. What was God's plan then?

God does not seem to be very good at his job, and by that, I mean he seems to be nightmarishly bad at his job. He knows the future right? So he already knows who's going to heaven and hell before they're even born, meaning some people are set up to fail. God is writing strawman as actual living people. One could say, "God doesn't have a plan for some people because those people don't believe/haven't given themselves up to God yet!" Then why did God create them in the first place, even if he knows they will not be religious? Why expect someone to root for your team when you know ahead of time they won't? Also, what are the mechanics? God waits for people to "get busy", then puts a soul in a fetus at the right time? This is why atheists exist, because the logic just doesn't click together. Where do people get the God's plan mode of thought from?

 

[Clare73]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happened. Another thing I see on this forum is threads where people say, "I had a bad thought against God, I'm so going to hell!" This is why I'm not religious, because logic and religion are two concepts that are so far apart that I can't even begin to explain it. Given the rules here, what I can talk about is very limited.

Like I probably described in a few others threads, I went to a macho, alpha redpilled forum for some dating advice, and due to me being a 36-year-old virgin, I was made to feel unspeakably terrible and self-conscious. It opened my eyes to how the world really is, what the world really wants and should want, and it worried me so much that I was in this half-conscious state, that's how bad it was. The world is trapped in high school. I will probably stay alone forever because of how the world works and thinks. Then that led me to why God creates people. Why? Some people are set up to fail. I've actually seen someone reply with "If you don't believe that Christ died for our sins and X, Y and Z, you go to a lake of fire." which is quite possibly the most disgusting and infuriating thing I've ever read. So that means people raised differently are going straight to hell because... they were raised differently? Okay. Cool, what a way to go through life, just assume that 90% of people walking around on Earth are gonna suffer for eternity because they don't think a certain way. Boy, what a loving God, right?

You don't get to have this forgiving, all-loving God but oh by the way he eternally punishes people for what their beliefs are, so pick the right one. You might as say that the Empire State Building is the same thing as a spoon. I never understood how faith works. Even when I was in kindergarten, I looked forward to getting old and dying eventually because I'd be done with that Earth crap and just go to straight to heaven, hopefully, if it existed. We all have lives we didn't ask for. Over 4 billion people do not have a unique purpose in this life, especially when a lot of them are invisible people, and some who die young before any impact was made. What was God's plan then?

God does not seem to be very good at his job, and by that, I mean he seems to be nightmarishly bad at his job. He knows the future right? So he already knows who's going to heaven and hell before they're even born, meaning some people are set up to fail. God is writing strawman as actual living people. One could say, "God doesn't have a plan for some people because those people don't believe/haven't given themselves up to God yet!" Then why did God create them in the first place, even if he knows they will not be religious?

Why expect someone to root for your team when you know ahead of time they won't? Also, what are the mechanics? God waits for people to "get busy", then puts a soul in a fetus at the right time? This is why atheists exist, because the logic just doesn't click together.
Where do people get the God's plan mode of thought from?

All revelation from God is found in the Judeao/Christian Scriptures.

That's where they get it.

 

[Cerraco]

That is an extremely general answer.

 

[pc_76]

The answer to a lot of things can come down to "You didn't create the world and it's physics, God did" or "Our ways are not God's ways" which I find nonsensical/frustrating and unsatisfying. It makes God look untouchable and faceless.

 

[Clare73]

That is an extremely general answer.

The issue it its truth, not its generality.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happened. Another thing I see on this forum is threads where people say, "I had a bad thought against God, I'm so going to hell!" This is why I'm not religious, because logic and religion are two concepts that are so far apart that I can't even begin to explain it. Given the rules here, what I can talk about is very limited.

Like I probably described in a few others threads, I went to a macho, alpha redpilled forum for some dating advice, and due to me being a 36-year-old virgin, I was made to feel unspeakably terrible and self-conscious. It opened my eyes to how the world really is, what the world really wants and should want, and it worried me so much that I was in this half-conscious state, that's how bad it was. The world is trapped in high school. I will probably stay alone forever because of how the world works and thinks. Then that led me to why God creates people. Why? Some people are set up to fail. I've actually seen someone reply with "If you don't believe that Christ died for our sins and X, Y and Z, you go to a lake of fire." which is quite possibly the most disgusting and infuriating thing I've ever read. So that means people raised differently are going straight to hell because... they were raised differently? Okay. Cool, what a way to go through life, just assume that 90% of people walking around on Earth are gonna suffer for eternity because they don't think a certain way. Boy, what a loving God, right?

You don't get to have this forgiving, all-loving God but oh by the way he eternally punishes people for what their beliefs are, so pick the right one. You might as say that the Empire State Building is the same thing as a spoon. I never understood how faith works. Even when I was in kindergarten, I looked forward to getting old and dying eventually because I'd be done with that Earth crap and just go to straight to heaven, hopefully, if it existed. We all have lives we didn't ask for. Over 4 billion people do not have a unique purpose in this life, especially when a lot of them are invisible people, and some who die young before any impact was made. What was God's plan then?

God does not seem to be very good at his job, and by that, I mean he seems to be nightmarishly bad at his job. He knows the future right? So he already knows who's going to heaven and hell before they're even born, meaning some people are set up to fail. God is writing strawman as actual living people. One could say, "God doesn't have a plan for some people because those people don't believe/haven't given themselves up to God yet!" Then why did God create them in the first place, even if he knows they will not be religious? Why expect someone to root for your team when you know ahead of time they won't? Also, what are the mechanics? God waits for people to "get busy", then puts a soul in a fetus at the right time? This is why atheists exist, because the logic just doesn't click together. Where do people get the God's plan mode of thought from?

Well at least you’ll know that if you are condemned for your unbelief, you’ll know exactly whose fault it is because according to your post here you have no excuse. You’re sitting here blaming God for your unbelief when that’s completely your own decision. You’re free to believe whatever you want so make your choice, that’s God’s plan for salvation.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happened. Another thing I see on this forum is threads where people say, "I had a bad thought against God, I'm so going to hell!" This is why I'm not religious, because logic and religion are two concepts that are so far apart that I can't even begin to explain it. Given the rules here, what I can talk about is very limited.

Like I probably described in a few others threads, I went to a macho, alpha redpilled forum for some dating advice, and due to me being a 36-year-old virgin, I was made to feel unspeakably terrible and self-conscious. It opened my eyes to how the world really is, what the world really wants and should want, and it worried me so much that I was in this half-conscious state, that's how bad it was. The world is trapped in high school. I will probably stay alone forever because of how the world works and thinks. Then that led me to why God creates people. Why? Some people are set up to fail. I've actually seen someone reply with "If you don't believe that Christ died for our sins and X, Y and Z, you go to a lake of fire." which is quite possibly the most disgusting and infuriating thing I've ever read. So that means people raised differently are going straight to hell because... they were raised differently? Okay. Cool, what a way to go through life, just assume that 90% of people walking around on Earth are gonna suffer for eternity because they don't think a certain way. Boy, what a loving God, right?

You don't get to have this forgiving, all-loving God but oh by the way he eternally punishes people for what their beliefs are, so pick the right one. You might as say that the Empire State Building is the same thing as a spoon. I never understood how faith works. Even when I was in kindergarten, I looked forward to getting old and dying eventually because I'd be done with that Earth crap and just go to straight to heaven, hopefully, if it existed. We all have lives we didn't ask for. Over 4 billion people do not have a unique purpose in this life, especially when a lot of them are invisible people, and some who die young before any impact was made. What was God's plan then?

God does not seem to be very good at his job, and by that, I mean he seems to be nightmarishly bad at his job. He knows the future right? So he already knows who's going to heaven and hell before they're even born, meaning some people are set up to fail. God is writing strawman as actual living people. One could say, "God doesn't have a plan for some people because those people don't believe/haven't given themselves up to God yet!" Then why did God create them in the first place, even if he knows they will not be religious? Why expect someone to root for your team when you know ahead of time they won't? Also, what are the mechanics? God waits for people to "get busy", then puts a soul in a fetus at the right time? This is why atheists exist, because the logic just doesn't click together. Where do people get the God's plan mode of thought from?

Oh and BTW sometimes unbelievers go on to have descendants who become believers and sometimes God uses those who don’t believe to bring about things in the world that cause others to believe. So His foreknowledge of those who don’t believe doesn’t automatically dictate that He has no purpose for those people who made that choice.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happen

We exist in the context of so much we do not understand.

We have a fundamental choice: to believe it all has no meaning or purpose (just happens) or to believe in an ultimate meaning and purpose we cannot yet fully conceptualize. I choose to believe the later.

 

[Clare73]

That is an extremely general answer.

Eph 1:3-6:
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

 

[Cerraco]

Well at least you’ll know that if you are condemned for your unbelief, you’ll know exactly whose fault it is because according to your post here you have no excuse. You’re sitting here blaming God for your unbelief when that’s completely your own decision. You’re free to believe whatever you want so make your choice, that’s God’s plan for salvation.

If God punishes people for not believing, that would be the most petty thing ever. A person is more than what they believe. A person is more than what their sexual orientation is, but a lot of judgmental Christians seem to have this gatekeeping philosophy on who goes to heaven and who doesn't. God is outside of time, right? That means he knew ahead of time who will be an atheist and who won't be, and if people are made to suffer eternally just for that, which is dumb beyond words, then again, he is setting people up to fail.

 

[Clare73]

If God punishes people for not believing, that would be the most petty thing ever. A person is more than what they believe. A person is more than what their sexual orientation is, but a lot of judgmental Christians seem to have this gatekeeping philosophy on who goes to heaven and who doesn't. God is outside of time, right? That means he knew ahead of time who will be an atheist and who won't be, and if people are made to suffer eternally just for that, which is dumb beyond words, then again, he is setting people up to fail.

And so man judges God, failing to realize that
it is God who judges men, not men who judge God.

Reality 101:
God created it all, it all belongs to him, he makes the rules for it all and he is the Judge of it all.
You live in his world, he does not live in yours.

 

[Cerraco]

And so man judges God, failing to realize that
it is God who judges men, not men who judge God.

Assuming he even exists.

Reality 101:
God created it all, it all belongs to him, he makes the rules for it all and he is the Judge of it all.
You live in his world, he does not live in yours.

He also created a lot of people that have the worst lives ever - who never asked to be born, but the vibe I'm getting from these responses are "we can't understand God's ways so idk let's just go with it *shrug*" This logic works perfectly for Christians who choose to believe this stuff, but not for a logical atheist. These texts were written by imperfect humans, not God himself.

God should probably be smart enough to understand not everyone will believe in him since there is never any indisputable proof of him, but yeah, he sends to them hell anyway. Again, it does not work both ways. "Yeah God is forgiving and all-loving and smart and stuff but he punishes you eternally for petty things because he's God."

 

[BNR32FAN]

If God punishes people for not believing, that would be the most petty thing ever. A person is more than what they believe. A person is more than what their sexual orientation is, but a lot of judgmental Christians seem to have this gatekeeping philosophy on who goes to heaven and who doesn't. God is outside of time, right? That means he knew ahead of time who will be an atheist and who won't be, and if people are made to suffer eternally just for that, which is dumb beyond words, then again, he is setting people up to fail.

He’s not setting anyone up to fail, you just don’t want to take responsibility for your own actions. Right now you know full well what God’s expectations are and you don’t care what they are you are choosing not to comply and trying to blame God for the punishment that you know you’re going to receive for your disobedience. You’re argument makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

[Cerraco]

He’s not setting anyone up to fail, you just don’t want to take responsibility for your own actions. Right now you know full well what God’s expectations are and you don’t care what they are you are choosing not to comply and trying to blame God for the punishment that you know you’re going to receive for your disobedience. You’re argument makes absolutely no sense at all.

You did not just say that. Yes, dude, yes it does. I already explained this and even gave some examples.

You talk about people not wanting to take responsibility for their actions. I'm not talking about solely evil people. What if someone is a good person in every single way but is still an atheist? Gotta punish them eternally, right? If someone is a born, and he grows up to be a murderer, did God know that beforehand? Does God see different timelines of different choices people can make?

What about people who live a life so horrible that they decide, "No God would ever allow this!" Gotta send that person to hell, right? People need to just suck it up and believe, proof or no proof. That seems really petty. It's also very easy to judge someone else's beliefs when you're convinced that yours are right and everyone else's are wrong.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I always found the "God's plan" thing to be a thought blanket. Something that makes people feel better. It is very easy for someone to think to themselves, "This bad stuff happened to me because of God's plan!" instead of understanding that it happened because it just happened. Another thing I see on this forum is threads where people say, "I had a bad thought against God, I'm so going to hell!" This is why I'm not religious, because logic and religion are two concepts that are so far apart that I can't even begin to explain it. Given the rules here, what I can talk about is very limited.

Like I probably described in a few others threads, I went to a macho, alpha redpilled forum for some dating advice, and due to me being a 36-year-old virgin, I was made to feel unspeakably terrible and self-conscious. It opened my eyes to how the world really is, what the world really wants and should want, and it worried me so much that I was in this half-conscious state, that's how bad it was. The world is trapped in high school. I will probably stay alone forever because of how the world works and thinks. Then that led me to why God creates people. Why? Some people are set up to fail. I've actually seen someone reply with "If you don't believe that Christ died for our sins and X, Y and Z, you go to a lake of fire." which is quite possibly the most disgusting and infuriating thing I've ever read. So that means people raised differently are going straight to hell because... they were raised differently? Okay. Cool, what a way to go through life, just assume that 90% of people walking around on Earth are gonna suffer for eternity because they don't think a certain way. Boy, what a loving God, right?

You don't get to have this forgiving, all-loving God but oh by the way he eternally punishes people for what their beliefs are, so pick the right one. You might as say that the Empire State Building is the same thing as a spoon. I never understood how faith works. Even when I was in kindergarten, I looked forward to getting old and dying eventually because I'd be done with that Earth crap and just go to straight to heaven, hopefully, if it existed. We all have lives we didn't ask for. Over 4 billion people do not have a unique purpose in this life, especially when a lot of them are invisible people, and some who die young before any impact was made. What was God's plan then?

God does not seem to be very good at his job, and by that, I mean he seems to be nightmarishly bad at his job. He knows the future right? So he already knows who's going to heaven and hell before they're even born, meaning some people are set up to fail. God is writing strawman as actual living people. One could say, "God doesn't have a plan for some people because those people don't believe/haven't given themselves up to God yet!" Then why did God create them in the first place, even if he knows they will not be religious? Why expect someone to root for your team when you know ahead of time they won't? Also, what are the mechanics? God waits for people to "get busy", then puts a soul in a fetus at the right time? This is why atheists exist, because the logic just doesn't click together. Where do people get the God's plan mode of thought from?

From what I'm reading in your OP, I think you're letting your the deep frustration in your personal life cloud the way in which you evaluate the Christian Faith. I'm sorry to hear you're lonely and wishing for more in life. I know that's a very difficult position to be in. Then, to be faced with not only one's own mortality in this short life, but also with the additional possibility of being eternally punished by a Holy God, can become indescribably incapacitating for many people.

If the God of the Bible is real, and if the Bible is even moderately true (or better), then we have to realize we really do live in a fallen world which entraps us and is filled with forces that intend to push us away from subtle saving power of Jesus Christ.

 

[Clare73]

Assuming he even exists.

He also created a lot of people that have the worst lives ever - who never asked to be born, but the vibe I'm getting from these responses are "we can't understand God's ways so idk let's just go with it *shrug*" This logic works perfectly for Christians who choose to believe this stuff, but not for a logical atheist. These texts were written by imperfect humans, not God himself.

God should probably be smart enough to understand not everyone will believe in him since there is never any indisputable proof of him, but yeah, he sends to them hell anyway. Again, it does not work both ways. "Yeah God is forgiving and all-loving and smart and stuff but he punishes you eternally for petty things because he's God."

As far as God is concerned, his existence is evidenced by all creation.
Where did matter/energy come from?

And on that basis, all who deny God will be judged accordingly.

 

[Cerraco]

From what I'm reading in your OP, I think you're letting your the deep frustration in your personal life cloud the way in which you evaluate the Christian Faith. I'm sorry to hear you're lonely and wishing for more in life. I know that's a very difficult position to be in. Then, to be faced with not only one's own mortality in this short life, but also with the additional possibility of being eternally punished by a Holy God, can become indescribably incapacitating for many people.

If the God of the Bible is real, and if the Bible is even moderately true (or better), then we have to realize we really do live in a fallen world which entraps us and is filled with forces that intend to push us away from subtle saving power of Jesus Christ.

I find myself getting angrier and angrier with life every day, and telling myself "well that's just how God made it, I won't question it!" is, in my opinion, a close-minded and lazy way of thinking. The 'Trust in Big Brother' logic doesn't work for me, and never will. When I was younger, I believed in God simply because I wanted him to exist, not because there was any proof. There's also people that believe that the world is 6,000–10,000 years old and that Adam and Eve were real people, when there is unfathomably overwhelming evidence to support the contrary, assuming those stories are not allegorical. It would be nice if there was a God, but not the one-sided egotistical one that a lot of Christians have painted.

There are people following other religions thinking that they are right, and the world is wrong. They're totally getting a ticket into heaven and everyone else picked the wrong thing. I'd hate to be the guy that cured cancer, gave to the poor every day, was utterly selfless but was an atheist, then burns forever. I wouldn't put a forbidden tree out in the open if I didn't want it touched. Any time someone says that God loves you, people should probably put an asterisk next to that.

Those NDE stories of atheists seeing heaven (which include people who followed other religions) are more believable than what some 2,000-year-old book says, which contains disturbing verses. It is still a book written by man. There's this guy named Bill Wiese who tells that "23 Minutes in Hell" story, which is absolutely infuriating. I think the dude's a hack since he changes details, and he sounds scripted. He opened "I don't care what you were raised with, the Bible is the only way through heaven!" That garbage makes me wretch.

As far as God is concerned, his existence is evidenced by all creation.
Where did matter/energy come from?

These questions don't automatically point to "Yeah, it was God." This can also fall in a 'God is in the gaps' argument. If you don't understand science at all, it is easy to shrug your shoulders and comfortably go with the God thoughts.

And on that basis, all who deny God will be judged accordingly.

I'm sure Christians will too. Just because you believe in something, doesn't automatically make you a good person. If God is putting nasty Christians in heaven and good-natured atheists in hell permanently, there's an issue.

 

[Clare73]

I find myself getting angrier and angrier with life every day, and telling myself "well that's just how God made it, I won't question it!" is, in my opinion, a close-minded and lazy way of thinking. The 'Trust in Big Brother' logic doesn't work for me, and never will. When I was younger, I believed in God simply because I wanted him to exist, not because there was any proof. There's also people that believe that the world is 6,000–10,000 years old and that Adam and Eve were real people, when there is unfathomably overwhelming evidence to support the contrary, assuming those stories are not allegorical. It would be nice if there was a God, but not the one-sided egotistical one that a lot of Christians have painted.

There are people following other religions thinking that they are right, and the world is wrong. They're totally getting a ticket into heaven and everyone else picked the wrong thing. I'd hate to be the guy that cured cancer, gave to the poor every day, was utterly selfless but was an atheist, then burns forever. I wouldn't put a forbidden tree out in the open if I didn't want it touched. Any time someone says that God loves you, people should probably put an asterisk next to that.

Those NDE stories of atheists seeing heaven (which include people who followed other religions) are more believable than what some 2,000-year-old book says, which contains disturbing verses. It is still a book written by man. There's this guy named Bill Wiese who tells that "23 Minutes in Hell" story, which is absolutely infuriating. I think the dude's a hack since he changes details, and he sounds scripted. He opened "I don't care what you were raised with, the Bible is the only way through heaven!" That garbage makes me wretch.

These questions don't automatically point to "Yeah, it was God." This can also fall in a 'God is in the gaps' argument. If you don't understand science at all, it is easy to shrug your shoulders and comfortably go with the God thoughts.
I'm sure Christians will too. Just because you believe in something, doesn't automatically make you a good person.
If God is putting nasty Christians in heaven and good-natured atheists in hell permanently, there's an issue.

God is putting the regenerted (born again, Jn 3:3-5) in heaven and condemning the unregenerated (atheists, Jn 3:18),
which is no issue for God.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I find myself getting angrier and angrier with life every day, and telling myself "well that's just how God made it, I won't question it!" is, in my opinion, a close-minded and lazy way of thinking. The 'Trust in Big Brother' logic doesn't work for me, and never will. When I was younger, I believed in God simply because I wanted him to exist, not because there was any proof. There's also people that believe that the world is 6,000–10,000 years old and that Adam and Eve were real people, when there is unfathomably overwhelming evidence to support the contrary, assuming those stories are not allegorical. It would be nice if there was a God, but not the one-sided egotistical one that a lot of Christians have painted.

There are people following other religions thinking that they are right, and the world is wrong. They're totally getting a ticket into heaven and everyone else picked the wrong thing. I'd hate to be the guy that cured cancer, gave to the poor every day, was utterly selfless but was an atheist, then burns forever. I wouldn't put a forbidden tree out in the open if I didn't want it touched. Any time someone says that God loves you, people should probably put an asterisk next to that.

Those NDE stories of atheists seeing heaven (which include people who followed other religions) are more believable than what some 2,000-year-old book says, which contains disturbing verses. It is still a book written by man. There's this guy named Bill Wiese who tells that "23 Minutes in Hell" story, which is absolutely infuriating. I think the dude's a hack since he changes details, and he sounds scripted. He opened "I don't care what you were raised with, the Bible is the only way through heaven!" That garbage makes me wretch.

I'm sorry to hear that you're frustrated, but my answers will generally be the same now as they were the last few times we briefly spoke back in 2023.

I hope and pray life gets better for you in some way. I know life can suck at times, and I've had my share of suckage.

 

[Cerraco]

God is putting the regenerted (born again, Jn 3:3-5) in heaven and condemning the unregenerated (atheists, Jn 3:18),
which is no issue for God.

Well, it is in an old book, so I guess it's true then, because it's in the Bible, which makes it true, because it's in the Bible, which makes it true. A book that has been re-translated and re-edited into oblivion. I'm not seeing very compelling counter-arguments from you, mostly just cherry-picking and gatekeeping with Bible general verses that were written by others a long time ago.

Of course, it's "no issue" from God. No one can really do anything about anything when you're a deity making up rules that don't seem to pan out very well. I really don't know what the point was there.

Edit: If anything, you're making God look like an egotistical Sunday school teacher that beats kids' hands with rulers when he's not agreed with.