The thing about Adam that really disgusts me

[Daniel Peres]

When God asked Adam if he ate from the forbidden tree, Adam replied, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate.”

It may seem like he blamed Eve to some, but the way I read it, Adam blamed God for causing him to sin. That’s pretty low. I don’t think there is any other person in the Bible that ever blamed God for their sin.

However, isn’t that similar to people that willfully sin, and proclaim, “That’s the way God made me!?”

 

[BobRyan]

yep he blamed God -- by first blaming Eve and then pointing out that this defective person that made me do this thing - was given to me by "you" so the implication was that "you" should blame yourself for what I did wrong.

What Adam leaves out is that if Adam had not joined Eve in rebellion then instead of "mankind in rebellion" it would only be "Eve in Rebellion". And that means that God's plan of salvation would only have to deal with one human's sin - so then no flood, no billions of humans lost over time.

 

[Jonaitis]

When God asked Adam if he ate from the forbidden tree, Adam replied, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate.”

It may seem like he blamed Eve to some, but the way I read it, Adam blamed God for causing him to sin. That’s pretty low. I don’t think there is any other person in the Bible that ever blamed God for their sin.

However, isn’t that similar to people that willfully sin, and proclaim, “That’s the way God made me!?”

The question I have: Adam never sinned before, so would one expect his reaction to be more mature? A mature response comes from experience, does it not?

I am not justifying Adam's actions, by the way. I am just looking at it from a more "realist" point of view. Children blame without being taught to blame out of the natural protection for self-preservation, which all animals would do if they were intelligent.

 

[Daniel Peres]

Now that I think about it further, he was also a jerk for throwing his wife under the bus.

 

[friend of]

I love Adam. He's my best friend.

 

[Daniel Peres]

I love Adam. He's my best friend.

I don’t get the joke. Sorry.

 

[childeye 2]

It does look like Adam could have been blaming his wife and blaming God in turn. I've thought about this many times and I can't say for certain how much to project into that. I do know that God said Adam should not have listened to the woman over God, which implies to me that Adam knew better than to be persuaded by the woman who was beguiled by the serpent. In any event I believe I've done the same thing when I've sinned, so.

 

[Daniel Peres]

It does look like Adam could have been blaming his wife and blaming God in turn. I've thought about this many times and I can't say for certain how much to project into that. I do know that God said Adam should not have listened to the woman over God, which implies to me that Adam knew better than to be persuaded by the woman who was beguiled by the serpent. In any event I believe I've done the same thing when I've sinned, so.

You blamed God for your sin?

 

[friend of]

I don’t get the joke. Sorry.

I think Adam is cool. I would hang out with him irl

 

[childeye 2]

You blamed God for your sin?

No, I've caved to the woman when I knew better. But I admit that sometimes I wonder why my helpmate seems inclined to want to take the lead.

 

[Daniel Peres]

I think Adam is cool. I would hang out with him irl

I still don’t get the joke.

 

[friend of]

I still don’t get the joke.

It's not a joke Daniel. You made a thread about how much Adam sucks and I'm replying that I think the opposite. I think Adam was a cool dude and everyone needs to cut him some slack.

 

[Clare73]

The question I have: Adam never sinned before, so would one expect his reaction to be more mature? A mature response comes from experience, does it not?

Adam's need for Eve was powerful. . .designed to be so by God.
He chose to be with her, and without God.
He loved the creature more than the Creator. . .not good.

I am not justifying Adam's actions, by the way. I am just looking at it from a more "realist" point of view. Children blame without being taught to blame out of the natural protection for self-preservation, which all animals would do if they were intelligent.

 

[Lost Witness]

I'm Grateful for Adam and Eve,
Regardless as to what they did,
They are our ancestors.

 

[Jonaitis]

Adam's need for Eve was powerful. . .designed to be so by God.
He chose to be with her, and without God.
He loved the creature more than the Creator. . .not good.

Why was Adam's need for Eve so powerful?

 

[Clare73]

Why was Adam's need for Eve so powerful?

God made it that way. . .I suppose for the sake of the marital bond and family, as well as for Adam's personal "completion". . .he wasn't "finished, whole" without her.

 

[childeye 2]

Why was Adam's need for Eve so powerful?

I can understand why Adam valued Eve above all other created things. Scripture indicates it's because she was created from a piece of his self. Just like a woman loves her child above all other things because it's a piece of herself. It's about perspectives since mankind is a piece of God, and so He values us as Himself, but as God I think He is more the One taken for granted.

I visualize the sequence unfolding by Eve eating first and that when she didn't die and her eyes were opened, this caused Adam to wonder why God had said they would die. So, I think he ate with some trepidation based on not wanting to doubt God, rather than wanting to disobey. But I agree with you about maturity or rather lack of maturity. For we all know God is looking out for us even as much as we know why we keep certain things away from our children to protect their innocence.

 

[bling]

When God asked Adam if he ate from the forbidden tree, Adam replied, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate.”

It may seem like he blamed Eve to some, but the way I read it, Adam blamed God for causing him to sin. That’s pretty low. I don’t think there is any other person in the Bible that ever blamed God for their sin.

However, isn’t that similar to people that willfully sin, and proclaim, “That’s the way God made me!?”

Is it any better to blame Satan?

 

[friend of]

Is it any better to blame Satan?

Why not blame Satan?

 

[Guojing]

When God asked Adam if he ate from the forbidden tree, Adam replied, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate.”

It may seem like he blamed Eve to some, but the way I read it, Adam blamed God for causing him to sin. That’s pretty low. I don’t think there is any other person in the Bible that ever blamed God for their sin.

However, isn’t that similar to people that willfully sin, and proclaim, “That’s the way God made me!?”

Adam, unlike us, did not have the sin nature in him. He has no tendency to sin unlike us.

Hence, he has to make a deliberate choice to sin. Eve was the one who is deceived by Satan, but not him.