Ultimate Reconciliation Scriptures

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10. “He does according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What do You do?” Dan. 4:35.

Who can resist a being of Almighty power? What God wills to take place, must take place. He wills the salvation of all mankind because it is right. A God of purity cannot desire endless sin and rebellion. If he wills the salvation of all men, he wills all the means by which it shall be accomplished; it must therefore take place.
This offers zero support for UR, but it is a nice verse.
 
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11. “He is in one mind, and who can turn him?” Job 23:13.

God has no other will besides the will to save all mankind.
Carnal Vanity.
Romans 9:
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But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?”
21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,
24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

The gall to make this claim!
"God has no other will besides the will to save all mankind."

Philippians 3:
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings,
being made conformable unto his death;
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

It would seem that what you know of Him
is only what you want to hear.
 
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God is love and love works no ill. “Love works no ill.” Rom. 13:10. God is the very essence of benevolence, and benevolence cannot be the origin of endless evil. If love works no ill, God can work no ill & be the author of endless evil.
He will ultimately bring all evil to an end as an
act of eternal love. What you say is misinformed.
He is the creator of all things. Did you somehow
think that Satan invented evil?
God created the tree of the knowledge,
for His Own purpose. Satan had no voice,
until Eve listened.

Isaiah 45:
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I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Have you been doing this all your life?
 
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13. “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son.” John 3:16

God loves all mankind & died for all men, so God loves all men.
Nowhere does it say He takes pleasure in the death
of the wicked, but their way leads to perdition. If
there is no light in them, there is no God in them.

Matthew 13:
41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,
42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
 
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14. "For he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.” Luke 6:35.
And so He expects the same from us, because:
Hebrews 10:
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For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Romans 3:
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But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who takes vengeance? (I speak as a man)
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

2 Thessalonians 1:
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Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
 
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15. "Love works no ill." God is wise; & cannot in wisdom create beings, and then make their existence a curse by entailing endless suffering to it. God foresaw all the consequences of our creation when he made us. He knew fully what the result would be to each individual. Is it possible, that infinite goodness could breathe life into unoffending dust, when it was clearly foreseen that endless evil would ensue? It was not possible. God must have created only to bless.

16. "Full of mercy" James 3:17. ” The wisdom of God is full of mercy, and without partiality, ready to pass by a transgression, and to grant forgiveness to those who offend; and performing every possible act of kindness. Surely, a God of infinite power and skill, who performs every possible act of kindness, will save his fallen creatures from their sins without partiality or without making a difference. God is no respecter of persons. He is kind to all men, and he will perform every possible act of kindness to all men. God is wise; and it cannot be a dictate of wisdom to create beings, and then make their existence a curse by entailing endless suffering to it. God saw all the consequences of our creation when he made us. He knew fully what the result would be to each individual. Is it possible, that infinite goodness could breathe life into unoffending dust, when it was clearly foreseen that endless evil would ensue? It was not possible. God must have created only to bless. “Love works no ill.”
 
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17. “As I live, says the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked.” Ezek. 33:11

The pleasure of God is in favor of the salvation of all men, therefore neither death, sin, nor pain, can be the ultimate object of God in reference to man. Death and sin and pain may exist for a time; but if God has no pleasure in them they are not the end at which he aims, but the means by which he accomplishes that end. The end in which God rests is his pleasure, design, or purpose & must be essentially benevolent, because he is essentially a benevolent God. Neither death, nor sin, nor pain can be his ultimate plan or pleasure; they are the means by which his holy and righteous designs are carried into effect.

18. “You have created all things, and for Your pleasure they are and were created.” Rev. 4:11

God created all men expressly for his pleasure, and, therefore, not for ultimate death. He made all things for his pleasure; and through the same motive he preserves. It is evident that he hates nothing that he has made; and could have made no intelligent creature with the design to make it eternally miserable. It is strange, that a contrary supposition has ever entered into the heart of man. It is high time that the benevolent nature of the supreme God should be fully vindicated from thoughts of this kind.
 
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19. “The pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.” Isaiah 53:10

The pleasure of God is to have all men saved, and brought to the knowledge of the truth.

20. “So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth; it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11.

God’s pleasure shall surely be accomplished. “I will do all my pleasure.” Does not this show that God’s pleasure shall certainly be accomplished? His word shall not return unto him void: it shall accomplish what he pleases, and prosper in the object which he sent it to accomplish. God has no pleasure in the death or suffering of the sinner. That was not the object of creation. God created men for his pleasure, and his pleasure shall certainly be accomplished.

21.“Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of times, he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even in him.” (Eph. 1:9,10)

It is evident that God has purposed to gather together all things in Christ. God’s purpose agrees with his will or pleasure. He wills to have all men saved; he has no pleasure in the death of the wicked; and accordingly he has purposed to gather together in one, all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth. This is God’s purpose; this is what he has purposed in himself. This is not the gathering together of those things only which are in Christ, but the gathering together of all things in him. “Unto him shall the gathering of the people be.” (Gen. 49:10) And Jesus confirms this: “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32) Thus we see all things are to be gathered into Christ. They are all to have his spirit, and partake of his new creation; for “if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold all things are become new.” (2 Cor. 5:17)
 
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15. "Love works no ill."
16. "Full of mercy"
Nothing about reconciliation here. If you
have to write an essay to make a verse conform
to your beliefs, the truth is absent.
I will make a deal with you, since your title
claims all these scriptures support UR, edit
out all your comments, and I will do the same
in all my responses, and let the word of God
speak for itself.
 
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23. In your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 22:18)

God promised to Abraham, his servant, that he would bless all mankind, in his seed.

All the nations of the earth, all the families of the earth, according to this promise, are to be blessed in the seed of Abraham. The language is absolute: it is without any condition. “All the nations of the earth shall be blessed.” And who is this “seed of Abraham,” in whom all the nations and families of the earth shall be blessed? In the Messiah, who shall spring from you, shall all families of the earth be blessed; for as he shall take on him human nature, from the posterity of Abraham, he shall taste death for every man; his gospel shall be preached throughout the world, and innumerable blessings be derived on all mankind, through his death and intercession.

24. In your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 26:3.4)

"I will perform the oath which I swore unto Abraham your father, and I will make your seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto your seed all these countries; and in your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 26:3,4)

This is precisely of the same theme. It refers to precisely the same subject, and asserts the same facts.
 
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25 “In you, and in your seed, shall all the families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 28:14)

The same promise was repeated to Jacob, the grandson of Abraham. “and in you, and in your seed, shall all the families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 28:14) The apostle Paul fully settles the question in regard to who is meant by the “seed of Abraham.” He says, “Now to Abraham and his seed, were the promises made. He says not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, and to your seed, WHICH IS CHRIST.” (Gal. 3:16) Christ, then, is the seed of Abraham; and in him ALL the nations and families of the earth shall be blessed.

26.“You are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, in your seed shall all kindreds of the earth be blessed. Unto you first, God, having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.” (Acts 3:25,26)

Peter, the apostle, understood this promise as referring to the salvation of men from sin, by Jesus Christ. Here we have a third term,- kindreds. All nations of the earth, all families of the earth, and all kindreds of the earth, must certainly signify all mankind. The import of this absolute, unconditional promise is, they shall all be blessed in Christ Jesus.
 
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26. “You are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, in your seed shall all kindreds of the earth be blessed. Unto you first, God, having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.” (Acts 3:25,26)

Peter, the apostle, understood this promise as referring to the salvation of men from sin, by Jesus Christ. Here we have a third term,- kindreds. All nations of the earth, all families of the earth, and all kindreds of the earth, must certainly signify all mankind. The import of this absolute, unconditional promise is they shall all be blessed in Christ Jesus.

27. “And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, in you shall all nations be blessed.” (Gal. 3:8)

The apostle Paul repeats this promise, and calls it THE GOSPEL. “And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, in you shall all nations be blessed.” (Gal. 3:8) This is a further confirmation, that the blessing promised men in the seed of Abraham is a spiritual gospel blessing.
 
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28. “Is the law, then, against the promises of God? God forbid.” (Gal. 3:21)

There is no threatening of any kind whatsoever in the Scriptures, no law, no penalty, no punishment denounced, which when rightly understood does not harmonize with this promise, for the law is not against the promises of God. The law is undoubtedly the law given to Moses on Mount Sinai. God was specially careful to frame that law in such a manner, that not a single sentence or particle of it should contradict the promises made by him to Abraham. Not a single threatening of punishment for sin, or for unbelief, not a denunciation of hell-fire, or condemnation of any kind of sin, is opposed to the promises of God. Those promises most explicitly assert, the final blessing of all nations, kindreds, and families of the earth with salvation from sin in Jesus Christ, so no portion of God’s law, no threatening of punishment, should be so construed, interpreted, or explained, as to contradict this; and as the doctrine of endless condemnation for sin does explicitly contradict those promises, that doctrine we may be sure is not revealed in any portion of God’s word.
 
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29. “I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear, surely shall say, in the Lord have I righteousness and strength.” (Isaiah 45:23,24)

God has confirmed his promise by an oath. He swore by himself, he pledged his eternal power and Godhead for the fulfillment of the promise; there was no being superior to himself, to whom he could make appeal, or by whom he could be bound; therefore he appeals to and pledges his immutable truth and Godhead. The promise pledged his faithfulness and justice; the oath of all the infinite perfections of his Godhead; for he swore by himself.
 
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Great passage, which I hadn't come across before. It says two main things. Firstly, it is God's will (and pleasure) that the ultimate destiny of all creation, so not just people, is to be restored together in Christ. And secondly, God carries out everything that He wills. How can this not be talking about universal restoration? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But no doubt we'll soon be enlightened...
Where did this funny guy come from?
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30. “What he has promised he is able to perform.” (Rom. 4:21)

God is almighty; nothing can resist his will; nothing can defeat his purpose; nothing can prevent the fulfillment of his promise. If God were not almighty, then the world might not be saved; but he is almighty; “none can stay his hand, or say unto him, what do You do?”. In God’s own time (and that is the best time), and by his own means, the whole world shall be saved. 31.“He gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim. 2:6) Because God not only wills the salvation of all men; not only has purposed to save them all; not only has promised it; not only has confirmed that promise by an oath; but also has provided the means, in the death of Christ, for the salvation of all men. Jesus died for all. “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man.” (Heb. 2:9) “And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:2) Here are three expressions: 1st, “ALL;” 2nd, “EVERYMAN;” 3rd, “THE WHOLE WORLD.” The sacred writers took the utmost care to guard against being misunderstood. Some would have us believe that these expressions are to be understood only in a general sense, in opposition to the contracted opinions of the Jews, who confined the blessings of God to their own nation only; and that the words are intended to declare, that Jesus died for Gentiles as well as Jews. We cannot so restrict the sense. Look at the connection in which these passages are found, and it will be seen that the terms used, apply to all men, in the widest sense of these terms. Paul instructs Timothy to pray for all men; not for Jews and Gentiles in the general sense, but for kings and all in authority; for this is good and acceptable in the sight of God, who will have all men to be saved. So John says, “if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father.” (1 Epistle John 1:1) Is not the language here designed to apply to all men: Who can dispute it?
 
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31.“He gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim. 2:6)

God not only wills the salvation of all men; not only has purposed to save them all; not only has promised it; not only has confirmed that promise by an oath; but also has provided the means, in the death of Christ, for the salvation of all men. Jesus died for all. “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man.” (Heb. 2:9) “And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:2) Here are three expressions: 1st, “ALL;” 2nd, “EVERYMAN;” 3rd, “THE WHOLE WORLD.” The sacred writers took the utmost care to guard against being misunderstood. Some would have us believe that these expressions are to be understood only in a general sense, in opposition to the contracted opinions of the Jews, who confined the blessings of God to their own nation only; and that the words are intended to declare, that Jesus died for Gentiles as well as Jews. We cannot so restrict the sense. Look at the connection in which these passages are found, and it will be seen that the terms used, apply to all men, in the widest sense of these terms. Paul instructs Timothy to pray for all men; not for Jews and Gentiles in the general sense, but for kings and all in authority; for this is good and acceptable in the sight of God, who will have all men to be saved. So John says, “if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father.” (1 Epistle John 1:1) Is not the language here designed to apply to all men: Who can dispute it?
 
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