Will you let the bible ...

[Hammster]

Read more posts of mine. I said much more

I can’t piece everything together. If you don’t want to answer, we will just draw our conclusions.

 

[Hammster]

The bible is "manmade". It takes but a few seconds to notice that! The men who wrote it mention their names. Saint Paul tells you that he wrote the letters that he wrote. Isaiah tells he what he wrote. Best put away this dislike for manmade things or else you'll need to toss away the bible.

Smokescreen. It didn’t answer my question.

 

[concretecamper]

But you can still wish. . .

Not me

 

[concretecamper]

we will just draw our conclusions.

spoken like a true sola scripturist.

 

[Hammster]

Sola Scriptura is a man-made doctrine. Even the NT acknowledges that not all teachings were recorded. And even at that revelation, written or unwritten, must be properly understood. People often apply the rule of faith that Scripture supposedly affords, differently, all interpreting privately in any case. The Bereans and the Ethiopian Eunuch required the input of Christ’s disciples in order to correctly understand OT Scripture.

What doctrines were they taught that weren’t in scripture?

 

[Hammster]

spoken like a true sola scripturist.

You could just stop dodging the questions.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

How is that not man-made?

It is "not manmade" in the same way that everything that the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, taught, or handed on to the apostles is not manmade. And it is manmade in exactly the same way that everything that the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, taught, or handed on to the apostles is manmade. After all, Jesus is a man and so are the apostles.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Is it? I give up. . .

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Have we reached a consensus yet?
Do we agree that none of us will use holy scripture as an excuse for treating others badly?
Will we refrain from cruelty, harsh words, needless condemnations of people with whom we disagree.
For example, will we refuse to say bad things about same sex attracted persons, transgendered persons, black or brown persons, Hindu or Muslim persons, native Americans, Chinese, Russians?
Will re resist the temptation to repeat propaganda in speaking ill of those who are allegedly our nations' enemies?

 

[Clare73]

Have we reached a consensus yet?
Do we agree that none of us will use holy scripture as an excuse for treating others badly?

The answer to your question is the same as the answer to the question:
Did Paul sit loosely to ignorance and misrepresentation of soteriology?

 

[Hammster]

It is "not manmade" in the same way that everything that the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, taught, or handed on to the apostles is not manmade. And it is manmade in exactly the same way that everything that the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, taught, or handed on to the apostles is manmade. After all, Jesus is a man and so are the apostles.

So do you disagree with @concretecamper?

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

So do you disagree with @concretecamper?

Let's not attempt to sew discord between brethren. That's not a good thing to do.
The scriptures warn about it:

Proverbs 6:
12 A scoundrel and a villain goes around with crooked speech,
13 winking the eyes, shuffling the feet, pointing the fingers,
14 with perverted mind devising evil, continually sowing discord;
15 on such a one calamity will descend suddenly; in a moment, damage beyond repair.
16 There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him:
17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that hurry to run to evil,
19 a lying witness who testifies falsely, and one who sows discord in a family.
​

 

[Clare73]

Not me

Good to know that you don't want me to give up. . .thanks.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Good to know that you don't want me to give up. . .thanks.

I would not regret it if you were to give up supporting doctrines that are errors.

 

[Clare73]

I would not regret it if you were to give up supporting doctrines that are errors.

And the feeling is mutual regarding you. . .

 

[Hammster]

Let's not attempt to sew discord between brethren. That's not a good thing to do.
The scriptures warn about it:

Proverbs 6:
12 A scoundrel and a villain goes around with crooked speech,
13 winking the eyes, shuffling the feet, pointing the fingers,
14 with perverted mind devising evil, continually sowing discord;
15 on such a one calamity will descend suddenly; in a moment, damage beyond repair.
16 There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him:
17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that hurry to run to evil,
19 a lying witness who testifies falsely, and one who sows discord in a family.
​

I guess you disagree, then.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

I guess you disagree, then.

 

[concretecamper]

Let's not attempt to sew discord between brethren

Agreed.
I think it is more of "I'm out of bullets" so let me deflect.

 

[Mark Quayle]

No, the above is all silliness. God is whoever God is and God is good as we know and as I stated-and we know with certaintythat by revelation and grace. But power, itself, does not guarantee goodness. The rest is speculation, not necessarily bad speculation; Aquinas speculated similary, but not with certainty.

Mere power and omnipotence are two different things. Omnipotence is not "a whole lot of power".

You keep trying to assess God by our measurements. It doesn't work that way.

 

[Hammster]

Agreed.
I think it is more of "I'm out of bullets" so let me deflect.

No, it’s actually that you keep deflecting, and even though your guy disagrees with you, he is holding to “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.