More bad news for Trump

[Pommer]

Its a race between Trumps hubris and his cunning.

I'll admit, this is tough to call.

“The Nixon Doctrine”: “It’s not illegal if the President does it!” has become the Trump Doctrine: I do what I want!

 

[Blade]

"espionage" ? Clear we don't understand that word and what its meant for. Fun to run with speculation. We seen the left say all of this before since 2014. Some, the left never talk about not even here could have been charged with espionage yet even for them it would have almost been impossible. But its not about justice or that other person would be talked about yet oddly not. So for the most part its just some personal feeling against one person they don't like the law justice gets toss out. What I see no offense.

 

[DamianWarS]

NY judge rules criminal case against Trump Organization can proceed.

Judge rules criminal case against Trump Organization and former CFO can proceed

Trump is a compulsive narcissist. if he was naked and on display in the middle of a busy intersection he would be yelling for everyone to stare at him, then he'd get the licensing for the video and sell it. Trump doesn't know what bad PR is. 3500 lawsuit cases against him means he's important and means everyone is looking at him (which is what he wants). He can't help it. The more people look at him, the more he wants people to look at him which is why he is so unpredictable and contradictory in his actions because he is so narcissistically driven. The most painful thing you could do to Trump is ignore him.

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

NY judge

You don't say.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

If I had been investigated for collusion and impeached twice I would make sure I had all my ducks in a row before taking home classified information. It would be stupid not to.

Sometimes criminals do stupid things.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

"espionage" ? Clear we don't understand that word and what its meant for. Fun to run with speculation. We seen the left say all of this before since 2014. Some, the left never talk about not even here could have been charged with espionage yet even for them it would have almost been impossible. But its not about justice or that other person would be talked about yet oddly not. So for the most part its just some personal feeling against one person they don't like the law justice gets toss out. What I see no offense.

The espionage act that Trump elevated to a felony in 2018 specifically mentions what Trump has done in the mishandling of classified and top secret documents . Of course when he signed the bill he was thinking he could use it to lock up Hillary for her mishandling of her emails.

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

Sometimes criminals do stupid things.

Trump has not been shown to be a criminal. In fact, all attempts to induce this on him have failed.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Trump has not been shown to be a criminal.

That is true. But I was responding to BPPLEE's implication that Trump could not possibly be guilty because it would be a stupid crime. My observation that sometimes criminals do stupid things shows that it is possible to be both criminal and stupid at the same time. As to whether or not Trump is actually guilty, we are still at the speculative stage. Let's wait and see how the investigation plays out.

 

[BPPLEE]

That is true. But I was responding to BPPLEE's implication that Trump could not possibly be guilty because it would be a stupid crime. My observation that sometimes criminals do stupid things shows that it is possible to be both criminal and stupid at the same time. As to whether or not Trump is actually guilty, we are still at the speculative stage. Let's wait and see how the investigation plays out.

I never said Trump couldn't be guilty. I just said taking classified documents home would be stupid. It's possible that Trump did something stupid. It wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I'll believe espionage when it's proven. Either he declassified the documents or this is one of the stupidest crimes in history.

Just think about it. The ex president has been known for many years to be a money hustler. Remember when he wanted to share nuclear secrets with Saudi Arabia? Well, he just sponsored a golf tournament with the Saudis.Did he share some of those documents with them for a price? We don't know, but I thiink it is worth looking into don't you? I am not saying he did this. I am just saying he had the documents, and he had the opportunity. It is about our national security.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I never said Trump couldn't be guilty. I just said taking classified documents home would be stupid. It's possible that Trump did something stupid. It wouldn't be the first time.

Sorry I misjudged you.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Did they find them?

They did.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

If I had been investigated for collusion and impeached twice I would make sure I had all my ducks in a row before taking home classified information. It would be stupid not to.

Of course you would. But that is you.

 

[KCfromNC]

If I had been investigated for collusion and impeached twice I would make sure I had all my ducks in a row before taking home classified information. It would be stupid not to.

Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who had to be reminded not to stare at the sun.

 

[KCfromNC]

"espionage" ? Clear we don't understand that word and what its meant for.

We might or might not, but - going out on a limb - I'm thinking there might be people at the DoJ who know a bit more about the law than random posters here.

 

[KCfromNC]

Just think about it. The ex president has been known for many years to be a money hustler. Remember when he wanted to share nuclear secrets with Saudi Arabia? Well, he just sponsored a golf tournament with the Saudis.Did he share some of those documents with them for a price? We don't know, but I thiink it is worth looking into don't you? I am not saying he did this. I am just saying he had the documents, and he had the opportunity.

Plus the Saudis just recently gave his family $2 billion.

I'm sure it's all just a coincidence, though.

 

[BPPLEE]

Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who had to be reminded not to stare at the sun.

It's possible he did something stupid. I'm not denying that.

 

[Fantine]

He has dozens of lawyers working on his civil and criminal cases at all times.
And most of the cases are still pending. They file postponements, lawsuits, appeals. They figure he's 76 years old and if they can postpone things long enough he'll die a free man.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

They figure he's 76 years old and if they can postpone things long enough he'll die a free man.

You think?

 

[BPPLEE]

He has dozens of lawyers working on his civil and criminal cases at all times.
And most of the cases are still pending. They file postponements, lawsuits, appeals. They figure he's 76 years old and if they can postpone things long enough he'll die a free man.

How can Trump be grossly incompetent and a criminal mastermind at the same time?