WAR CHEST: Trump Shatters Fundraising Record Following FBI Raid at Mar-a-Lago

[cow451]

Knowing the mentality of some on the far-right of "I'm just going to pretend to the love whatever politicians are most-hated by the left", you'd think now would be a perfect time to use some reverse psychology. ...even if it means letting him skate on some infractions that were, let's be honest, not going to land him in jail, and not going to disqualify him from running again. I know some people have a fantasy about him rotting in a prison cell and getting cozy with his new cell mate "Big Bubba", but they need to get that out of their heads...that's not going to happen lol.

Now would be the time for MSNBC & Co. to start talking about how proud they are that Trump promoted the vaccines, how much they appreciated him capping drug prices in the name of the "common good", and showing this picture as often as they can:
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...and then pick a reasonable moderate republican (Like Charlie Baker or Larry Hogan), and pretend they don't like him, and then watch how quickly they'll rally around the moderate (thinking they're sticking it to the libs)

Trump cannot live without attention. His holding onto top secret documents could not be ignored.

 

[cow451]

Being that Merrick Garland said he personally signed off on the operation (and he's an adjunct of the president), if the the president's own party had interest in self-preservation, they should've either

A) let it go

B) done it, but kept it quiet and not made a big deal about it.


IE:

This kind of stuff isn't helping
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And to clarify, I'm not trying to absolve him of any wrongdoing here...I didn't vote for him, I don't like him.

...I don't like drug cartels either...but if the predictable outcome of "trying to take down" a cartel leader was more problems 6-18 months down the road, I'd say discretion is the better part of valor and sometimes it's better long term to just let some things go.

All of this is just fostering the environment that will make it easier for him to become president again. Sure, it may "feel good" to see people going after him...but sometimes you gotta play the long game.

His refusing to turn over top secret documents crossed a line that could not be tolerated. The party of law and order abdicated its duty.

 

[wing2000]

You expected him to be silent? If rolls were reversed Biden would have done the same thing and the lame stream media would have made all the noise. Don't like it's so shocking.

It was his choice to blow up the story in the media. The FBI reportedly planned to keep the search low profile.

 

[cow451]

I don't think they have thought that far ahead. From what I am hearing there were talks going on and this was unnecessary. If they don't have anything of substance on him they have just furthered the narrative that he is the target of unfair investigations and fired up the base. God forbid if they arrest him I can only imagine what the reaction will be. Either way I don't think this ends well for the FBI. If something did come of this that stopped him from running again that would be the best thing that could happen for the Republicans. They should have left him alone.

He was subpoenaed in June. He had no intention of complying. It appears some of the documents were beyond top secret and he could not be trusted to keep the information secure.

 

[cow451]

You expected him to be silent? If rolls were reversed Biden would have done the same thing and the lame stream media would have made all the noise. Don't like it's so shocking.

The issue was who went public first. Trump.

 

[cow451]

Trump fell into a ton of new funding and unification of his party, is that a fall?

Nixon won by a landslide in 1972. Two years later he needed a presidential pardon. Trump is no longer President, praise God. I happen to believe Trump’s true nature will lead to his ultimate demise. He and Giuliani have similar character flaws. Giuliani’s fall is a foreshadowing of the fate of the former defeated President.

 

[wing2000]

Being that Merrick Garland said he personally signed off on the operation (and he's an adjunct of the president), if the the president's own party had interest in self-preservation, they should've either

A) let it go

B) done it, but kept it quiet and not made a big deal about it.


IE:

This kind of stuff isn't helping
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And to clarify, I'm not trying to absolve him of any wrongdoing here...I didn't vote for him, I don't like him.

...I don't like drug cartels either...but if the predictable outcome of "trying to take down" a cartel leader was more problems 6-18 months down the road, I'd say discretion is the better part of valor and sometimes it's better long term to just let some things go.

All of this is just fostering the environment that will make it easier for him to become president again. Sure, it may "feel good" to see people going after him...but sometimes you gotta play the long game.

The FBI did B.
They executed a low profile search warrant.
I trust the DOJ had a very good reason to execute such a search, otherwise, they would not have taken the extraordinary step to search a former president's home.
I also trust the AG Garland to run an independent investigation.

 

[Aldebaran]

What was there other option? Let Trump hold onto our nuclear secrets and sell them to the highest bidder? They had to get them back and did as quietly as they could. They controlled what they could control. If Trump didn’t cry about this he would have something worse to cry about to milk more money from his followers.

If that's what they believed he had, then what does it say about the DOJ that they allowed him to keep those documents for a year and a half--just before the mid-term election? Nothing good.
More likely that this "nuclear" thing is just another cover for another failed operation to smear the former president to try to keep him from running for president again.

 

[Aldebaran]

The FBI did B.
They executed a low profile search warrant.
I trust the DOJ had a very good reason to execute such a search, otherwise, they would not have taken the extraordinary step to search a former president's home.
I also trust the AG Garland to run an independent investigation.

If Garland ran it, it wouldn't be very independent. He's the one that wanted the raid, and he's the one that authorized it.

 

[wing2000]

If Garland ran it, it wouldn't be very independent. He's the one that wanted the raid, and he's the one that authorized it.

That makes no sense.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The FBI did B.
They executed a low profile search warrant.
I trust the DOJ had a very good reason to execute such a search, otherwise, they would not have taken the extraordinary step to search a former president's home.
I also trust the AG Garland to run an independent investigation.

The FBI may have tried to keep it as low profile as possible, but CNN and MSNBC did not.

With regards to the very good reason, there's a good chance we'll find out
Justice Dept. Moves to Unseal Warrant in Trump Search

Garland has moved to unseal the info, so if that effort is successful, we'll see what the court of public opinion says about it...although, I suspect I already know what that'll be (if history is any teacher)

It could be the worst thing in the world, and his supporters will try to downplay it

It could be something trivial, and not worth the blowback, and the most ardent Trump haters will pretend it was on-par with Nixon.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Trump cannot live without attention. His holding onto top secret documents could not be ignored.

He is a narcissist, so you're right about the first part.

With regards to what "can't be ignored", even if that's true from the department of justice standpoint, it's certainly not required that CNN & MSNBC gloat about it and slap it on their home page.

If the cost of "taking it to him" and "celebrating that he got his wrist slapped" is "reinvigorating a support base that was losing interest, and perhaps being just the thing he needed to win again in 2024", that's doesn't seem like a good trade off.

I often wonder how many are still obsessed with this fantasy of Trump getting tossed in a jail cell in some sort of "revenge fantasy" moment. If that's what the aim is, they should probably come back to reality and strategize in another way.

If they're recycling their older routine of "make sure the most extreme candidate is the most popular on the other side, because we think he'll be easier to beat", then that's at least a coherent strategy, but a risky one.

All of this "keeping his name in the forefront" may wind up with us getting stuck with him for another 4 years.

 

[BPPLEE]

He is a narcissist, so you're right about the first part.

With regards to what "can't be ignored", even if that's true from the department of justice standpoint, it's certainly not required that CNN & MSNBC gloat about it and slap it on their home page.

If the cost of "taking it to him" and "celebrating that he got his wrist slapped" is "reinvigorating a support base that was losing interest, and perhaps being just the thing he needed to win again in 2024", that's doesn't seem like a good trade off.

I often wonder how many are still obsessed with this fantasy of Trump getting tossed in a jail cell in some sort of "revenge fantasy" moment. If that's what the aim is, they should probably come back to reality and strategize in another way.

If they're recycling their older routine of "make sure the most extreme candidate is the most popular on the other side, because we think he'll be easier to beat", then that's at least a coherent strategy, but a risky one.

All of this "keeping his name in the forefront" may wind up with us getting stuck with him for another 4 years.

That's true. As more comes out his chances keep getting better.

 

[wing2000]

The FBI may have tried to keep it as low profile as possible, but CNN and MSNBC did not.

The press is certainly going to report the former president's reaction and statement. I'm not sure what your point is. If it's the media are giving this issue (and Trump) too much attention. Maybe.

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With regards to the very good reason, there's a good chance we'll find out
Justice Dept. Moves to Unseal Warrant in Trump Search

Yes, have you seen the documents? Several line items noting classified documents, including those classified as Top Secret - SCI
FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home

 

[cow451]

He is a narcissist, so you're right about the first part.

With regards to what "can't be ignored", even if that's true from the department of justice standpoint, it's certainly not required that CNN & MSNBC gloat about it and slap it on their home page.

If the cost of "taking it to him" and "celebrating that he got his wrist slapped" is "reinvigorating a support base that was losing interest, and perhaps being just the thing he needed to win again in 2024", that's doesn't seem like a good trade off.

I often wonder how many are still obsessed with this fantasy of Trump getting tossed in a jail cell in some sort of "revenge fantasy" moment. If that's what the aim is, they should probably come back to reality and strategize in another way.

If they're recycling their older routine of "make sure the most extreme candidate is the most popular on the other side, because we think he'll be easier to beat", then that's at least a coherent strategy, but a risky one.

All of this "keeping his name in the forefront" may wind up with us getting stuck with him for another 4 years.

A former defeated President being investigated for espionage is a bit hard to ignore.

 

[rjs330]

It was his choice to blow up the story in the media. The FBI reportedly planned to keep the search low profile.

And Biden would have done the same. Don't act so shocked.

 

[rjs330]

The issue was who went public first. Trump.

Doesn't matter. Biden would have done the same. Who cares. It's all going to come out eventually.

 

[Aldebaran]

A former defeated President being investigated for espionage is a bit hard to ignore.

That's why the ongoing string of investigations. They like the attention they get, and the fact that they divert attention away from whatever biden and his admin. is doing.

 

[Pommer]

And Biden would have done the same. Don't act so shocked.

Prophesy and politics don’t play well together.
Your extreme cynicism is pretty pathetic, actually.

 

[Pommer]

That's why the ongoing string of investigations. They like the attention they get, and the fact that they divert attention away from whatever biden and his admin. is doing.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain/catch the real crime family?

Well, when all one has is a shovel…