2Cor 5:19 is God not strong enough to accomplish this?

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2Cor 5:19 “ So that God was in the Anointed reconciling the world to himself, not accounting their trespasses to them” if this is not done like so many say why did God say he was reconciling the world to himself if most of the creation will not be reconciled to them because he is holding their trespassing against them? Is he just not strong enough to do it or does he just wish he could or did he lie to us ?
 

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2Cor 5:19 “ So that God was in the Anointed reconciling the world to himself, not accounting their trespasses to them” if this is not done like so many say why did God say he was reconciling the world to himself if most of the creation will not be reconciled to them because he is holding their trespassing against them? Is he just not strong enough to do it or does he just wish he could or did he lie to us ?
Every individual in the world must decide if they will receive
this reconcilliation with God, and walk in the newness of life
being offered. It all depends on what people hold in regard.

16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh,
yet now we know Him thus no longer.
 
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I believe He did just what He said He would in the verse, however heretical a statement that seems to be nowadays.
16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh,
yet now we know Him thus no longer.
Could it be they only know Christ "in the flesh"?
 
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2Cor 5:19 “ So that God was in the Anointed reconciling the world to himself, not accounting their trespasses to them” if this is not done like so many say why did God say he was reconciling the world to himself if most of the creation will not be reconciled to them because he is holding their trespassing against them? Is he just not strong enough to do it or does he just wish he could or did he lie to us ?
Possibly God will reconcile the entire world to himself. But this may only be hinted at in Scripture.

Why just hints? Well, if this life experience is some kind of test, then telling people that everyone will pass it eventually might kind of skew the results.
 
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You have to take into account who Paul (by revelation) is writing to …and to keep it in its context.
He is addressing the Church of God (believers) at Corinth.

By way of Jesus Christ …God accomplished salvation for all ….the criteria being that of Rom 10:9&10.
Gods desire is that all men will be saved (1Ti 2:4) ….but not all will….that is not Gods choice, that is the free will of people.

if this is not done like so many say
I don't know who the "so many" are ...but I would go with the Word and not listen to them.
 
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Is he just not strong enough to do it or does he just wish he could or did he lie to us ?

If ones reading of the bible or ones understanding of it causes one to think that God cannot do or is unable to do what he says, then the fault is in ones understanding, not the bible or with God.

May I suggest that you read the chapter again, but use biblegate way and a modern translation. Do it several times with different translations.
Most problems of understanding the bible resolve themselves by reading the context and using a different english version.
 
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Every individual in the world must decide if they will receive
this reconcilliation with God, and walk in the newness of life
being offered. It all depends on what people hold in regard.

16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh,
yet now we know Him thus no longer.
So Gods works depends on us not him? So his reconciliation is not sufficient it depends on us accepting it?
 
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You have to take into account who Paul (by revelation) is writing to …and to keep it in its context.
He is addressing the Church of God (believers) at Corinth.

By way of Jesus Christ …God accomplished salvation for all ….the criteria being that of Rom 10:9&10.
Gods desire is that all men will be saved (1Ti 2:4) ….but not all will….that is not Gods choice, that is the free will of people.


I don't know who the "so many" are ...but I would go with the Word and not listen to them.
So our choice thwarted Gods desire so we are more powerful than God? What does this say about God ?
 
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2Cor 5:19 “ So that God was in the Anointed reconciling the world to himself, not accounting their trespasses to them” if this is not done like so many say why did God say he was reconciling the world to himself if most of the creation will not be reconciled to them because he is holding their trespassing against them? Is he just not strong enough to do it or does he just wish he could or did he lie to us ?
My Bible has 31,172 verses. Is that the only vs. in your Bible?
Jeremiah 13:14
(14) And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Matthew 7:21-23
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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So Gods works depends on us not him?
A ridiculous insinuation. Do you have many edifying discussions?
So his reconciliation is not sufficient it depends on us accepting it?
His reconciliation is more than sufficient. If by accepting it
you mean we actually live by His Word, that is obvious.
You do realize that reconcilliation is about how you live
your life, not where you go when you die, or what happens
afterward.
 
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