Pastor Wants LGBTQ 'Indoctrinators' Executed for Treason

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rjs330

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The way I hear it from the Christians I know, the Old Testament rules except for the Ten Commandments were basically thrown out when Jesus came along, as Jesus formed a new contract with humanity. (But Paul had a thing against homosexuals, so that stuck.)

If some are still taking the rules of Deuteronomy seriously (in the case of wearing opposite gender clothes), I would expect them to also be opposed to wearing mixed fabrics, having more than one crop in a field, and eating shellfish.

Absolutely! The new covenant replaced the old. There are elements of the old covenant that remained, such as theft and adultery and homisexuality and some things were altered like tithing 10%. There were new things Christ and the apostles introduced.

Christians are under a new covenant and this pastor has strayed far from the light.
 
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Horrific, inexcusable, and utterly repulsive.

Mark Burns does not deserve the title of Pastor, and deserves absolutely no respect or honor. I hope that they remove 501 (c) (3) tax exemption from the Harvest Praise & Worship Center, since they're clearly taking a bluntly political (and objectively evil) position.
 
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When a man dresses in drag, he is making an explicit sexual overture.

To whom?

When a man dresses in drag, it is an expression of his sexuality. Case in point: gay pride parades, where gay people express their sexuality by dressing in drag.

How about when a a man wears a sleeveless top to show off his "guns"?
How about when a woman wears stiletto heels?

All sorts of clothing expresses sexuality... Who can say what does or doesn't make another person's heart do the cha-cha?

According to Jesus, if someone else is expressing their sexuality in any way, and you get aroused, the responsibility is on you, not them. Why ignore such good advice?
 
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Well it comes from Newsweek and then the PRO TRUMP is a dead giveaway what this is really about. I would hope pray by now we know you most believers followers of Jesus Christ who died for the worlds sin.. no other loves you more.. to hear this day in day out.. we all got to make that choice to believe or not.

So one pastor talks like this? Most do not even think like that. Is this really much different then saying "those people" that voted for Trump should be locked up treated for treason and some said far worse?

If I am asked personally I will answer but other then that.. I'm not here to judge nor condemn. That light that love of God who sent HIs only son.. love will always change the heart. So thanks for sharing this I will be praying for that pastor..
 
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Hers are direct quotes from interviews he's done. I wasn't looking for a response to the whole article but his explicit message.

And FOX news ABSOLUTELY does censor. Of COURSE they do. Of COURSE.
I don't see any quotes from Burns, what did he do and say?
 
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When a man dresses in drag, he is making an explicit sexual overture.

When a man dresses in drag, it is an expression of his sexuality.
I'm pretty sure that the only thing that someone expresses by wearing drag is that they enjoy wearing clothes typically worn by the opposite gender.
 
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There's pretty solid exegenesis that Paul on a couple of occasions at least was NOT referring to just straight up "homosexual attraction". There are queer biblical scholars who make some very interesting arguments that rely on taking the cultural context that the bible was written during, into consideration.

Those scholars have completely misrepresented and twisted their cultural contexts. I've read them and done research myself. It's a joke and all are doing everything they can to try and justify their sinful ways.

It's very typical of people to do that. Just like the inquisition tried to justify their wickedness. It's all sin and wickedness.
 
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Those scholars have completely misrepresented and twisted their cultural contexts. I've read them and done research myself. It's a joke and all are doing everything they can to try and justify their sinful ways. .
No. No they haven't.
 
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Executed, no. But I would be on the list of people who would argue that it's grooming and it has nothing to do with watching Fox News. Even Bill Maher recently did a segment where he seemed to indicate children are a target for indoctrination and that's why there's a huge surge of people claiming to be LGBT.
There's a huge surge in people claiming to be LGBT because they feel SAFER coming out now.


According to the dictionary, one of the definitions of grooming is:

"To prepare, as for a specific position or purpose."
Perfect. Every single living person grooms their kids. I'm glad we have no watered the term down so much its become meaningless.
 
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That is certainly a chunk of it. Show love to people; with special attention to the most vulnerable.
Christianity is always supposed to be about humility, both before God and our fellow man.
American Christianity does not always have that flavour stirred through so much.

There is no doubt that Christianity has often been its own worst enemy. Humans, Christian or not, far too often form a belief system first and then try to make the Bible fit the system instead of fitting their system to fit the Bible. It's always been that way and always will. It's a human failing at it is wrong. That's how we got the inquisition, the burning of witches, and the racism of the south. None of which are supported by the New Covenant to which the church should be beholden.

Despite that, the church as a whole has done more for the poor, the sick the downtrodden etc. than any other group or organization. I will confess we are still not doing enough with our largess as believers.

As the Bible clearly teaches we as individuals and as a corporate body are to reach out and be the hand of Christ to others. Never does the teachings of Christ it Paul demand that we force anyone else to give it assist. The gospel is for everyone, the commands of love, kindness gentleness meekness, forgiving, generosity, mercy are only for the church made of individuals. It is meant for ONLY the believer to live. As believers we are to oppose the enemy when we see him. Because we are aware of his devices and how his devices destroy. The thief has come to kill and destroy, he has come seeking those to devour and it is our responsibility as a church to oppose the working if the enemy. But we are not to command non -believers to be I obedience to Christ. We are to tell all men to repent.

It's is not our place to punish those outside the church for they are already under condemnation and the judgement of God. It is our responsibility to judge those within the church who are creating wickedness within. It is our responsibility to rebuke and discipline those within the church that call themselves brothers for wickedness and false doctrine.

And this pastor, if what is said about him is true is NOT within the New Covenant and he should be judged and disciplined and rebuked by the church.
 
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The Family Research Council submitted a massive proposal to the government calling for the construction of 90 to 110 "interment centers" It was proposed that the cost of maintaining these centers could be offset by selling tickets to people to come watch homosexuals be tortured, mutilated and executed.

Citation needed.
 
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Millions of dollars are raised every year by ministries that lobby for laws in 3rd world countries calling for imprisonment and torture.

Americans for Truth has suggested that homosexuals have their faces branded, as in a cattle brand.

The Family Research Council submitted a massive proposal to the government calling for the construction of 90 to 110 "interment centers" It was proposed that the cost of maintaining these centers could be offset by selling tickets to people to come watch homosexuals be tortured, mutilated and executed.

When 56 people were gunned down in a Florida gay nightclub there were people cheering the news.

There are people who praise Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson as heroes for the murder of Matt Shepherd.

This kind of thinking isn't as fring as you would like to beleive it is

Yes it is VERY VERY fringe that support such things and they are WRONG to do so.
 
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I saw a great quote about this, "you think gays are trying to force people to change their sexual orientation, how horrible would a person like that be."

I'm pretty sure that its less that 1% of people from anywhere that think that.
 
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Those scholars have completely misrepresented and twisted their cultural contexts. I've read them and done research myself. It's a joke and all are doing everything they can to try and justify their sinful ways.

It's very typical of people to do that. Just like the inquisition tried to justify their wickedness. It's all sin and wickedness.
Or like how some people try to justify their prejudice
 
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Could be because the right believes in the freedom of people to speak their minds and unlike some others does not believe is shutting up people who have an opinion different from their beliefs. The right is not threatened by ideas.

No, that isn't it. Try talking about Jan 6 on Truth Social. What about the book burnings, such as Harry Potter books done in various American churches, a book burning planned by Pastor Grizzard in NC in 2009, or Pastor Greg Locke earlier this year? There are plenty on the Right who want to censor, just as there are on the left.
 
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Horrific, inexcusable, and utterly repulsive.

Mark Burns does not deserve the title of Pastor, and deserves absolutely no respect or honor. I hope that they remove 501 (c) (3) tax exemption from the Harvest Praise & Worship Center, since they're clearly taking a bluntly political (and objectively evil) position.

I disagree with that. Freedom of religion and all, even if it is wrong.
 
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