Pastor Wants LGBTQ 'Indoctrinators' Executed for Treason

Do you believe this is a reasonable and rational response?


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is it fringe?
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The overwhelming majority of Christians oppose homosexual practices (because, quite frankly, the Bible is unambiguous in its condemnation of homosexual acts as well as adultery and fornication and a fair number of other ‘sins’).

Very few of those Christians advocate for the killing of sinners, making those that do “the fringe” (by definition).
 
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It's not a coincidence, considering the tango we've had with that part of the world. Things tend to "rub off".

Anyone notice everyone wearing beards lately?


Christians often condemn Islam for its more radical acts (and rightly so).

What many Christians don't appreciate is that these extreme acts reflect on the image of religion as a whole by demonstrating what happens when faith becomes fanaticism. Ally this with the increase in verbally and politically extreme Christian representatives (see this thread) and the potential for Christianity to become extreme is obvious.

Based on what I've seen of some sections of Christianity I see a Christian version of the Taliban in the making.

Is it any wonder people are walking away from Christianity in droves?

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Well yeah but now.

If they have a screw loose, they should NOT be allowed to continue to speak from their position of power. They should CERTAINLY not be amplified.

So it's all nice and all to acknowledge this guy's a nut. But how about the right shuts him up, calls him out or tells him he is WRONG?
Could be because the right believes in the freedom of people to speak their minds and unlike some others does not believe is shutting up people who have an opinion different from their beliefs. The right is not threatened by ideas.
 
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Could be because the right believes in the freedom of people to speak their minds and unlike some others does not believe is shutting up people who have an opinion different from their beliefs. The right is not threatened by ideas.
advocating genocide is not just a difference of opinion
 
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Well yeah but now.

If they have a screw loose, they should NOT be allowed to continue to speak from their position of power. They should CERTAINLY not be amplified.

So it's all nice and all to acknowledge this guy's a nut. But how about the right shuts him up, calls him out or tells him he is WRONG?

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You expect us to shut him up? And how do we do that?

He's totally wrong. They are a nationalsecurity problem? What? They are a moral problem. But I don't recall Jesus or any of the apostles calling for the death of any sinner.

He's WRONG! In more ways than one.

But seriously the world is full of nuts.
 
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And, we wonder why people consider Christianity and conclude, "I'm not signing up for that."

Personally, I'm quite tired of the way many clergy represent my faith. They should be ashamed and those that follow them should be ashamed. I would not want to be standing in their shoes on judgment day.

You know there have been those on the left that have said and done things just as bad, but that hasn't stopped people from being leftists.

But I here you. This kind of thing makesy hreart ache. We are not the judge of those outside the church. We are only judges of those inside this pastor should be judged by the church.
 
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Pro-Trump pastor wants LGBTQ "indoctrinators" executed for treason

Personally, I find this pretty abhorrent. But that's just me.

For the purposes of the poll, please consider this:

...said earlier this week that parents and teachers who communicate with children about LGBTQ issues pose a "national security threat" to the United States and added that those found guilty of "treason" should be executed.

As a follow up question:
Do you believe that killing these parents and teachers will be BENEFICIAL for America and American Society?



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MAN I wish people who didn't like LGBTQ actually knew what the word "grooming" meant. It's really sad arguing a word with people who don't understand but gets piped into their house by FOX.

"Treason" is a political crime, and execution for it is a political punishment.

Clearly this pastor is quite outspoken on national security issues. If he wishes to continue his foray into political commentary and influence, he might find the efforts very... taxing.
 
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Personally, I'm quite tired of the way many clergy represent my faith. They should be ashamed and those that follow them should be ashamed. I would not want to be standing in their shoes on judgment day.

You know there have been those on the left that have said and done things just as bad, but that hasn't stopped people from being leftists...But I here you.

It's not about right or left. It's about Pastors misusing their positions in any form. I don't care if it's a Pastor calling for the execution of some of God's creations, throwing members of a particular party out of an assembly, a minister bedding a 16-year-old minor on his office floor, or a Catholic priest abusing a choir boy. They are hurting people and they are hurting the faith. And, I don't understand how people can turn a blind eye and follow them. They are a disgrace to the faith.
 
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Yes.

The overwhelming majority of Christians oppose homosexual practices (because, quite frankly, the Bible is unambiguous in its condemnation of homosexual acts as well as adultery and fornication and a fair number of other ‘sins’).

Very few of those Christians advocate for the killing of sinners, making those that do “the fringe” (by definition).

And yet, the Bible is equally unambiguous when it comes to the killing of the aforementioned sinners, meaning that the Bible itself is part of "the fringe" (by definition).
 
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You know there have been those on the left that have said and done things just as bad, but that hasn't stopped people from being leftists.

Sounds like you're saying that the pastor is no different from leftists.

An interesting equivocation, to say the least -- but I'm accustomed to seeing people point to someone else -- anyone else, including their supposed "enemy" -- as their standard for moral behavior.

PROTIP: If your morals are noting but "that's what they did; that's what we can get away with," then your morals are nothing at all.

But I here you. This kind of thing makesy hreart ache. We are not the judge of those outside the church. We are only judges of those inside this pastor should be judged by the church.

If I'm reading this correctly, your logic here does not follow -- you say those inside the church (I assume you mean Church) have no business judging those outside it... and in that, I agree.

But there is no implication of reciprocation given, and certainly none to be expected -- Those of us outside the Church are under no such rules. We will judge who and how as we see fit.
 
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And yet, the Bible is equally unambiguous when it comes to the killing of the aforementioned sinners, meaning that the Bible itself is part of "the fringe" (by definition).

The way I hear it from the Christians I know, the Old Testament rules except for the Ten Commandments were basically thrown out when Jesus came along, as Jesus formed a new contract with humanity. (But Paul had a thing against homosexuals, so that stuck.)

If some are still taking the rules of Deuteronomy seriously (in the case of wearing opposite gender clothes), I would expect them to also be opposed to wearing mixed fabrics, having more than one crop in a field, and eating shellfish.
 
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The way I hear it from the Christians I know, the Old Testament rules except for the Ten Commandments were basically thrown out when Jesus came along, as Jesus formed a new contract with humanity. (But Paul had a thing against homosexuals, so that stuck.)

There is a school of thought that Paul himself was a closeted homosexuality, which, while strictly circumstantial, would explain his stances against homosexuality, the flesh in general, and his own flesh in particular.

Was the Apostle Paul Gay?

I don't subscribe to the theory myself, but it is interesting.

If some are still taking the rules of Deuteronomy seriously (in the case of wearing opposite gender clothes), I would expect them to also be opposed to wearing mixed fabrics, having more than one crop in a field, and eating shellfish.

That just serves to make the Bible even more on the fringe, as Christians scramble to be more mainstream...

But Jesus was quite clear that there will be a lot of inversions in His coming Kingdom -- the first shall be last, and the last first. "Mainstream" isn't something anyone is going to want to be if/when He comes back.
 
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