would you like to see Trump run in 2024 ?

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If Trump could have been convicted of what you say, he'd be in jail, so get over it.

If Trump was innocent, he wouldn't be resisting investigations and concealing documents and text messages.
 
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No. I don't. #1. Character counts. That's what we told the Democrats in the 1990's with Bill Clinton, when they pointed to the economy and Bill Clinton's protecting abortion, And it counts now.
I think many of Trump's policies were good, but I didn't agree with all of them.
However, I was thrilled with his judicial picks, his Middle East peace policies and more.
However, I agree with a post upthread that we may well have gotten those with the other talented Republican candidates. I personally liked Jeb Bush, although I can see why he didn't go anywhere. People wanted something besides another Bush.
#2. Trump sadly became a cult of personality even among committed Christians. That is always dangerous both to our faith and to democracy(witness people being OK with Trump maybe implementing maritial law and having the military administer a new election when we had no solid evidence, proven in a court of law against cross examination that the election was stolen from Trump. This is banana republic stuff.) Plus our kingdom is not of this world. We don't look to a wordly leader. That doesn't mean that we don't vote, advocate for certain positions and even run for office. But all this "God's anointed." stuff made me nervous.
#3. Too divisive. We need someone who can in a general election unite both "wings." of the Republican party and get the swing voters. Glen Youngkin was able to do this in Virginia without appealing to Trump's endorsement.
#4. I predict Trump won't run. I could be wrong but I hope he won't. I don't think his ego will let him risk another loss. That would be great, opening up the field to fresh faces.
 
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No. I don't. #1. Character counts. That's what we told the Democrats in the 1990's with Bill Clinton, when they pointed to the economy and Bill Clinton's protecting abortion, And it counts now.
I think many of Trump's policies were good, but I didn't agree with all of them.
However, I was thrilled with his judicial picks, his Middle East peace policies and more.
However, I agree with a post upthread that we may well have gotten those with the other talented Republican candidates. I personally liked Jeb Bush, although I can see why he didn't go anywhere. People wanted something besides another Bush.
#2. Trump sadly became a cult of personality even among committed Christians. That is always dangerous both to our faith and to democracy(witness people being OK with Trump maybe implementing maritial law and having the military administer a new election when we had no solid evidence, proven in a court of law against cross examination that the election was stolen from Trump. This is banana republic stuff.) Plus our kingdom is not of this world. We don't look to a wordly leader. That doesn't mean that we don't vote, advocate for certain positions and even run for office. But all this "God's anointed." stuff made me nervous.
#3. Too divisive. We need someone who can in a general election unite both "wings." of the Republican party and get the swing voters. Glen Youngkin was able to do this in Virginia without appealing to Trump's endorsement.
#4. I predict Trump won't run. I could be wrong but I hope he won't. I don't think his ego will let him risk another loss. That would be great, opening up the field to fresh faces.
Good post, although I don't agree with your overall negativity about Trump. Hopefully, and if he does run, you'll change your mind after two more years of the real banana republic stuff.
 
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How do you feel about all the convicted criminal friends of Trump he pardoned? They WERE guilty and received a pass. We can do this all day.
So, let's not.
 
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Everyone has a big stick now though.
Yes, and this renders loud, boisterous shoes unnecessary noise and seems to exacerbate nations' grievances with each other. We need well adjusted adults in world leadership positions in my opinion.
 
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Yes, and this renders loud, boisterous shoes unnecessary noise and seems to exacerbate nations' grievances with each other. We need well adjusted adults in world leadership positions in my opinion.
Can't argue with that.
 
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How do you feel about the Hunter, and now Hillary, situations?

I'm unaware of how Hunter, not being an elected official, is relevant. I'm also unaware of any Hillary situation. I know Trump promised to lock her up and then changed his mind, thereby establishing her innocence, just as was initially confirmed before the 2016 election.
 
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Yes, because it would be great to have things back to the exact opposite of what they are now.

Unemployment is low, there is no recession, and nobody is trying to overthrow the government, unlike with Trump. Also, we have relatively low gas prices compared to the rest of the world. Thanks, Joe!
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Grew up that way, like a lot of people I suppose, but gradually started paying more attention and realized they didn't really represent my thinking on issues any longer.

That's interesting. I grew up in a Republican background, but after Bush41 tried to push an anti flag burning amendment and waved around a bag of crack on TV, not to mention Desert Storm, I'd had enough.
 
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That's interesting. I grew up in a Republican background, but after Bush41 tried to push an anti flag burning amendment and waved around a bag of crack on TV, not to mention Desert Storm, I'd had enough.
I was Dem all the way then.
 
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That's interesting. I grew up in a Republican background, but after Bush41 tried to push an anti flag burning amendment and waved around a bag of crack on TV, not to mention Desert Storm, I'd had enough.
I was all in with republicans until it was revealed that Limbaugh was going deaf due to pill popping, after he went after ordinary people for being addicted. Then his record was expunged and he faced no punishment for doctor-shopping for pills. I discovered their hypocrisy was great and widespread. They ended up being just like the democrats except they had little to no interest in helping the poor and downtrodden. They are worse today.
 
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That's interesting. I grew up in a Republican background, but after Bush41 tried to push an anti flag burning amendment and waved around a bag of crack on TV, not to mention Desert Storm, I'd had enough.

I was all in with republicans until it was revealed that Limbaugh was going deaf due to pill popping, after he went after ordinary people for being addicted. Then his record was expunged and he faced no punishment for doctor-shopping for pills. I discovered their hypocrisy was great and widespread. They ended up being just like the democrats except they had little to no interest in helping the poor and downtrodden. They are worse today.
I’ll likely never be a member of the Dem Party again, I don’t think they’ll change that much now. But, if a Romney or Cheney type was elected I would go back to an independent. I can imagine what that would be. What about you going back to a Republican, any chance of that, although if Biden hasn’t driven you back by now, nothing probably will.
 
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I’ll likely never be a member of the Dem Party again, I don’t think they’ll change that much now. But, if a Romney or Cheney type was elected I would go back to an independent. I can imagine what that would be. What about you going back to a Republican, any chance of that, although if Biden hasn’t driven you back by now, nothing probably will.
I never say never. Then again I vote the individual not the party. I voted for Martha McSally for Congress, voted for Bush too. She left me when she went full-Trump.

Please be sure to point out to me when Biden starts giving his kids jobs in the administration, has protestors attacked and forcefully moved just to get a picture while holding up a Bible, creates religious travel bans, refuses to show his tax returns, buys the hotel down the block and expects anybody wanting anything from him to stay at his hotels, charges the government for housing military at his personal hotel, attacks decorated military officers who speak out against him. Yes, point it out to me when Biden does any of this because I would turn.
 
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I never say never.
I'm the same, that's why I said 'likely never.'

Please be sure to point out to me when Biden starts giving his kids jobs in the administration, has protestors attacked and forcefully moved just to get a picture while holding up a Bible, creates religious travel bans, refuses to show his tax returns, buys the hotel down the block and expects anybody wanting anything from him to stay at his hotels, charges the government for housing military at his personal hotel, attacks decorated military officers who speak out against him. Yes, point it out to me when Biden does any of this because I would turn.
I don't think you would... that sounds really angry to me. I was just trying to have some friendly dialogue about our party changes.
 
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I'm the same, that's why I said 'likely never.'


I don't think you would... that sounds really angry to me. I was just trying to have some friendly dialogue about our party changes.

I am sorry that you failed to recognize the sarcasm I posted within the long list of things Trump actually did as President. Yes, it angers me that the President tried to overthrow a legal election he lost. You should be angry too, but you don't seem to be.
 
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I am sorry that you failed to recognize the sarcasm I posted within the long list of things Trump actually did as President. Yes, it angers me that the President tried to overthrow a legal election he lost. You should be angry too, but you don't seem to be.
No, I’m not yet. I’m going to reserve my opinion on it a while until all the opposing political sentiment cools down some, many investigations will surely follow, sort of like the Kennedy assassination you might say. I’ll see what all comes out after that… no telling what I’ll be angry about then.
 
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I was all in with republicans until it was revealed that Limbaugh was going deaf due to pill popping, after he went after ordinary people for being addicted. Then his record was expunged and he faced no punishment for doctor-shopping for pills.

But at least he was found carrying Viagra on his way to Thailand, which is famous for underage prostitutes.
 
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