ByTheSpirit
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You keep thinking that Acts 2 is where people were only filled with The Spirit, right?
What did Jesus tell them,....
Act 1:4 And assembling together with them, He charged them not to leave Jerusalem, but to await the promise of the Father, “which you heard of Me;
Act 1:5 for John indeed baptized in water, but you will be baptized in the Holy Spirit not many days after.”
That word in the Greek is this,...
- Original: ἐν
- Transliteration: En
- Phonetic: en
- Definition:
1. in, by, with etc.
- Origin: a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), i.e. a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537)
- TDNT entry: 10:57,2
- Part(s) of speech: Preposition
- Strong's: A primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place time or state) and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively) that is a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537);
in at (up-) on by etc.: - about after against + almost X altogether among X as at before between (here-) by (+ all means) for (. . . sake of) + give self wholly to (here-) in (-to -wardly) X mightily (because) of (up-) on [open-] ly X outwardly one X quickly X shortly [speedi-] ly X that X there (-in -on) through (-out) (un-) to(-ward) under when where (-with) while with (-in). Often used in compounds with substantially the same import; rarely with verbs of motion and then not to indicate direction except (elliptically) by a separate (and different) prep.
Old translations translated that word as "with",..... but how do you immerse, dip someone with something? You can't,....you can only immerse, dip them "in" or "into" something.
This is how old translations have created bad doctrine and misled people for centuries.
Thats not what I am asking. You are saying (or implying) the the church began at Pentecost. I'm asking you:
If the church began at Pentecost when the Spirit was given in that manner, then does that mean that anyone who has not received the Holy Spirit in the same manner as was given at Pentecost is thus not a member of the church and excluded from salvation?
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