Kyle Rittenhouse - hero

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Maybe he will be a paid celebrity.

It's amazing what life can throw at us, isn't it? We can be living a normal life, and then suddenly be thrust into the spotlight, whether for good or for bad, and it can change the entire course of one's life. In one case, a kid was at a rally and being taunted by a protester and then gets tarred and feathered by major news organizations, then ends up suing them and becomes a millionaire. Or another guy (Randy Weaver) who gets raided by the BATF and sees his family murdered in front of him after being framed by the government, and ends up a household name among 2nd Amendment supporters.
I believe life will be kinder to Kyle. He's young, he went through the court process and came through at the end with 12 jurors declaring him not guilty. It could have been different for him if a mistrial had been declared, or if he had settled the case.
 
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Sure, that's always preferable. I prefer to be an unknown regular person too. Fame of any type complicates life.

With Kyle, his fame means half the world thinks he ought to be locked up as a murder and the other half sees him as a hero. But fame for, let's say, an film star, some fraction of the world will admire that person and the rest of them will simply ignore him. But no one will want him locked up as a murderer. Some fame is worse than others.
 
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With Kyle, his fame means half the world thinks he ought to be locked up as a murder and the other half sees him as a hero. But fame for, let's say, an film star, some fraction of the world will admire that person and the rest of them will simply ignore him. But no one will want him locked up as a murderer. Some fame is worse than others.

In a few years, peoples' feelings about him won't be as strong as they are now. Other events will have taken place that will eclipse what people feel about Kyle. People have short memories.
 
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In a few years, peoples' feelings about him won't be as strong as they are now. Other events will have taken place that will eclipse what people feel about Kyle. People have short memories.

Ask George Zimmerman. His life did not turn out so well.
 
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Ask George Zimmerman. His life did not turn out so well.

I see that people put quite a bit of negativity on there about him, although I'm sure his life isn't the disaster the people of Wikipedia make it out to be.
Let's hope Kyle has plenty of friends and family around him that will keep him safe and on the right path in life. That seems to be the case so far.
 
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Recently acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero. Not because he killed people - self-defense almost by definition cannot be heroic.

No, Kyle is a hero for two other noteworthy actions.

First, he placed himself in danger to protect his community - which was under attack. He defied the bullies and thugs who caused millions of dollars of damage to the poorer-multiracial quarter of Kenosha in order to protect property, put out fires, clean up graffiti and render emergency medical aid to any in need (including the rioters).

Second, even when attacked by multiple members of a hostile mob, he used the minimum force necessary to protect his life. He showed such restrain that even combat veterans said that they would have done as well if they were in Kyle's shoes. Attacked by a coordinated mob assault, wounded multiple times, concussed and afraid, he continually avoided confrontation until it was impossible as he retreated to surrender to the police.

Perhaps he went there with naive notions of being a "do-gooder", but when the government ordered the police to stand down and let the down-trodden take a beating in the name of social justice, Kyle possessed the essential Christlike quality of agape love: suffering the benefit of others.
 
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When one crosses a state line, carrying a AR-15 and walking - you are looking for trouble, not to protect your community. And there are ways instigate trouble with another without being heard. Odds are at some point in his life will he kill again - I think so.
 
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When one crosses a state line, carrying a AR-15 and walking - you are looking for trouble, not to protect your community. And there are ways instigate trouble with another without being heard. Odds are at some point in his life will he kill again - I think so.
The AR15 that Rittenhouse used, never crossed state lines. And Rittenhouse never crossed state lines with an AR14. Does that change your opinion?
 
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The AR15 that Rittenhouse used, never crossed state lines. And Rittenhouse never crossed state lines with an AR14. Does that change your opinion?

And even if he did, it's still not illegal AFAIK.
 
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And even if he did, it's still not illegal AFAIK.
No it does not.
He testified the gun was "stored" at a friend's house until he turned 18, bought by HIS 20 year old friend in May 2020 and he killed those people in August 2020.
Well thought out _ and can not be proven a lie. The jury may believe it, you may believe it, many others may believe it, I don't believe it.
 
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No it does not.
He testified the gun was "stored" at a friend's house until he turned 18, bought by HIS 20 year old friend in May 2020 and he killed those people in August 2020.
Well thought out _ and can not be proven a lie. The jury may believe it, you may believe it, many others may believe it, I don't believe it.
What evidence do you have for your belief?
I watched the case carefully and have seen no evidence of your claim.
 
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What evidence do you have for your belief?
I watched the case carefully and have seen no evidence of your claim.

Not sure what evidence you're speaking of. If you're speaking of the trial Kyle Rittenhouse didn't illegally bring a gun across state lines and 5 other myths surrounding the trial debunked

Reported and Rittenhouse has own words and when his friend purchase the gun for him he was 18 at the time.
Kyle Rittenhouse Reveals How Gun Was Paid For in First Interview Since Arrest

At His acquittal he received gifts
Gun group ‘awarding’ Rittenhouse with AR-15 similar to weapon used in fatal shootings
 
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What evidence do you have for your belief?
I watched the case carefully and have seen no evidence of your claim.

Hit the post button too soon - my beliefs are my beliefs, if you ask for evidence concerning my beliefs - as I said in that statement it cannot be proven.
Funny how people will say there are signs people display that shows their character even psychologists say you can see this even in children. These teenagers who do these mass shootings in schools - the teachers and the parents are told they should have seen the warning signs. Like these last two parents are being charged also - citing they knew. Rittenhouse got his mother out of the picture quick. Yet people themselves ignore the signs. Pictures taken of him in the trial showed a overconfident, cocky young male who was not good at his crying over did the acting. But one must do what the attorneys tell you to do.
He likes to take pictures with his "gun" most have been taken off the internet, but here's to newspapers have.
Kenosha Shooting: 17-Year-Old Kyle Rittenhouse Arrested In Connection With Shooting That Left 2 Dead, 1 Wounded
At 17, he shot three people in the street — but was it self defence?
As with all beliefs anyone and everyone have their own.
 
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It's irrational to believe that everyone lied about the gun at the trial- and got away with it, but you, sitting at home figured out the truth.
Kyle didn't take a gun across state lines
 
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It's irrational to believe that everyone lied about the gun at the trial- and got away with it, but you, sitting at home figured out the truth.

Irrational __ ok how many people have been sentenced to decades in prison or a few years because of the testimony people some knowingly lied and others thought their version was true.

33 Startling Wrongful Convictions Statistics [2021 Update]

Almost the same applies when a person is guilty but found innocent. O.j. Simpson is the most famous.
The young man went there looking for trouble, carrying his AR-15 with him. Why even go - why have a gun such as that - you're looking for trouble.

Besides that how many people are you talkin about _ while I'm sitting at home trying to figure out the truth? And you're wrong - I'm not trying to figure out the truth _ I give my opinion, my belief, I'm not a juror but even if I was if the absolute truth can't be proven - nor could my belief be a factor - you honestly can't convict on a crime such as murder without proof. And no one knows the mind of a person accept the person.

More Americans think Kyle Rittenhouse should be convicted than say he will be | YouGov
 
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Kyle didn't take a gun across state lines


If you had read further you'll see where I posted his testimony.
How Rittenhouse used his stimulus check having his then 18 year old friend to by the gun for him, and supposedly held on to it. Even posted pictures of him in with his gun, most which have been taken down from the internet. Who can say as an absolute truth the gun wasn't in the car with him when he crossed the state line. As an absolute I can't say it was and I can't say it wasn't but I can post my beliefs.
 
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