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Yes I have.
When it comes to almost anything science based you seem to be always wrong.
See post #57.
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Yes I have.
When it comes to almost anything science based you seem to be always wrong.
What about it? Are you going into the toaster business?See post #57.
What about it? Are you going into the toaster business?
He was actually used as anecdotal evidence. Which isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on.
Oh I see. You are admitting that you are wrong since we are discussing science here.I see that you missed the relevant part. You've been doing that regularly. Here's what's relevant:
"If you want science speak to a scientist. If you want Christian conversation come to a Christian forum."
Can you understand now why I'd direct your attention to that post after you wrote post #58? If not, I'll give you a basic explanation.
Nope. That looks more like that is projection on your part.Sounds like you're saying Colin Powell is suddenly worthless, and that his death from Covid (even after following CDC guidance, biden's guidance, internet forum member guidance, MSM liberal talking-head guidance, and stand-up comedian talk show host guidance about how we're supposed to get the jabs) was in vain.
Good reason to avoid getting it.
We are in a propaganda war now ... facts don't matter ... just political loyalties ...(Is it just me, or does anyone else notice we have the exact same discussion with the same people over and over? They never refute the basics. Instead they peter out and then re-start the same discussion with a "new" topic).
The facts are that the vaccinated don't spread virus as easily as the unvaccinated. Vaccines hinder every aspect of the virus' viability ... infectability, length of infection, spread, severity, etc.The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated and since their symptoms will tend to be milder, they may be unaware they even have it and are spreading it. Meanwhile we demonize the unvaccinated as if they alone cause spread.
You are trying to extract a qualitative conclusion ... from a, perhaps, tangentially related black and white issue.Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.
Absolutely ... only vaccinated Americans would even be traveling outside of the country right now ...That is more than offset by the fact that the unvaccinated are five times more likely to catch the virus. Though that is the updated figure taking the Delta Variant into consideration. It may change with the Omicron Variant. So yes, it is correct to blame the unvaccinated for spreading the disease more than the vaccinated.
And since international travel is all but banned for the unvaccinated it would be truly surprising if an unvaccinated person was the first to bring it here on an international flight.
It could go either way ... largely depending upon the age and health of the infected party ... but the vaccines allow many more people to survive exposure and/or infection ...I've also heard of unvaccinated people getting it and having mild symptoms, or were even asymptomatic. At the same time, I've heard of people (such as Colin Powell) who were fully vaxxed and ended up dying of Covid. It seems that it could go either way no matter what.
The obsessive and stubborn ... are people too. Sometimes, you just have to give them some space ...Yes.
I left this site years ago because the same folks suck all the oxygen out of the room with zero reflection or personal growth.
It is exhausting and pointless. Frankly the same thing happened to Facebook.
It seems like most forums inevitably end up with a collection of obsessive, stubborn people that drive out normal, well adjusted people.
Colin Powell's death falls into the current scientific projections.Sounds like you're saying Colin Powell is suddenly worthless, and that his death from Covid (even after following CDC guidance, biden's guidance, internet forum member guidance, MSM liberal talking-head guidance, and stand-up comedian talk show host guidance about how we're supposed to get the jabs) was in vain.
Good reason to avoid getting it.
Thanks for posting evidence for the idea presented in post #5.The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated
Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.
I don't think so because...The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated
"New research is showing that although some vaccinated people are still contracting COVID-19, they generally experience milder disease for a shorter period of time with a low viral load.
COVID-19 infections are rare and mild after vaccination
It is too early to get enough data to estimate the potential damage of omicron. This article reports mild symptoms with 32 known cases in the U.K.For those who care about reality rather than trying to score political points... Reports from SA are that lots of Omicron infections are occurring both in vaxed and in previously infected people. This pretty much has to be the case for the variant to be spreading so rapidly there, given how large a fraction of the population has probably been infected before. We don't know that existing immunity (from either source) reduces the amount of severe disease but it seems likely, both from South African reports and from experience with other viruses. So the prudent thing to do is take steps to have as thorough an immunity as possible when it arrives. That means, if you've been vaccinated, get boosted if possible; if you've been infected, get vaccinated.