First omicron Covid case in U.S.---and it's a fully vaxxed person

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"The individual was a traveler who returned from South Africa on November 22," the CDC said in a news release. "The individual, who was fully vaccinated and had mild symptoms that are improving, is self-quarantining and has been since testing positive. All close contacts have been contacted and have tested negative."

California has reported the first U.S. case of the omicron variant
 
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"The individual was a traveler who returned from South Africa on November 22," the CDC said in a news release. "The individual, who was fully vaccinated and had mild symptoms that are improving, is self-quarantining and has been since testing positive. All close contacts have been contacted and have tested negative."

California has reported the first U.S. case of the omicron variant

Lucky that he/she had been vaccinated so that the symptoms were mild.
 
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(Is it just me, or does anyone else notice we have the exact same discussion with the same people over and over? They never refute the basics. Instead they peter out and then re-start the same discussion with a "new" topic).
 
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Noone has said that vaccinated persons cannot get mild cases of COVID. It's been acknowledged that they can ...

The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated and since their symptoms will tend to be milder, they may be unaware they even have it and are spreading it. Meanwhile we demonize the unvaccinated as if they alone cause spread.
 
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The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated and since their symptoms will tend to be milder, they may be unaware they even have it and are spreading it. Meanwhile we demonize the unvaccinated as if they alone cause spread.
Everywhere I look that deals with public heath this is considered false.

Can you show me where you are getting this from?
 
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Noone has said that vaccinated persons cannot get mild cases of COVID. It's been acknowledged that they can ...

Sure, because no vaccine will ever prevent illness 100%. It just significantly decreases the likelihood.
 
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(Is it just me, or does anyone else notice we have the exact same discussion with the same people over and over? They never refute the basics. Instead they peter out and then re-start the same discussion with a "new" topic).

Exactly as per the post directly following your.

'They say we're young and we don't know...'
 
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Everywhere I look that deals with public heath this is considered false.

Can you show me where you are getting this from?

Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.
 
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Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask.

vaccines are meant to prevent hospitalization & death
no one said they're meant to prevent getting covid

if vaccinated, less likely than unvaccinated to get covid
less likely to go in hospital, less likely to die

husband, teen, and I still wear masks even tho vaccinated
that's because barely anyone wears masks in our county
all the stores have signs "optional"

our county has low vaccine rate & VERY high covid rate
hospitals full again with covid sickos
 
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Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.
That says zero about the vaccinated being as likely to transmit. Which was your claim here.

They transmit enough to warrant masks. That's all we know from your evidence.
 
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The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated and since their symptoms will tend to be milder, they may be unaware they even have it and are spreading it. Meanwhile we demonize the unvaccinated as if they alone cause spread.
The Johnson and Johnson and Astrazenica vaccines are only 60-70% effective in preventing COVID, but are effective in preventing severe disease. Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have efficacy rates close to 95%. Some more breakthrough infections occurred after the immunity wore off in about six months. That is why a booster shot is recommended.
 
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Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.

Let me get this straight. This is your train of thought:

Everyone should wear a mask, therefore the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated .

Have got that right? Do you need someone to show you where the logic breaks down? Can I show you where you're inferring a conclusion when the premise doesn't warrent it? Does someone need to explain the medical facts yet again?
 
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Everywhere I look that deals with public health they are telling the vaccinated to mask. If what I said was false then they would not be giving such advice.
I deal with public health. I agree, the vaccinated should mask. What you said was still false.
 
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Lucky that he/she had been vaccinated so that the symptoms were mild.

Do you have any evidence that proves the vaccinations are the reason symptoms were mild?
 
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The problem is that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated and since their symptoms will tend to be milder, they may be unaware they even have it and are spreading it. Meanwhile we demonize the unvaccinated as if they alone cause spread.
The problem is that the unvaxed are the ones more likely to have serious cases that put them in the hospital making it hard for other people to get the treatment they need. For the record I have had co-vid (very mild case in December of last year), took the vaccine in March, but have yet to determine if I will take a booster and if I do it will only be one (unless they can be taken with the annual flu shots.
 
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Do you have any evidence that proves the vaccinations are the reason symptoms were mild?


COVID-19 infections are rare and mild after vaccination


"New research is showing that although some vaccinated people are still contracting COVID-19, they generally experience milder disease for a shorter period of time with a low viral load. The study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, offers some of the first robust data tracking the severity of “breakthrough infections.”
 
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