Austria makes vaccines mandatory for EVERYONE

[Original Happy Camper]

Well, this is the last resort to avoid many deaths.

On top of lies about the vaccines against Covid-19, which caused those who believed them to avoid vaccination, many people thought the pandemic was almost "over", making the people careless. And then it tuned out that immunisation protection fades after several months ...

As a result, there may not enough intensive care beds in the very near future for all those serious cases of Covid-19.

Germany may reach that point in a few weeks, if there is no change in the current trend.

Do you really want to say a government has not the right to protect the citizens? Those who get infected lightly whithout noticing is are a hazard to their fellows who might get severely ill, and even die of Covid-19! It would be very irresponsible not to do anything against that.

try using a proven remedy instead " Ivermectin"

 

[mama2one]

So why make it mandatory? Why not give it to the old and vulnerable and let the youth make their own choice.

in my county, most people over age 60 are vaccinated

daily there are new hospitalizations & deaths
so I guess the young, unvaccinated (under 60) are choosing hospitalization & death over getting vaccinated

there are many counties in my state
mine is in the top 10 for deaths, so we are losing a lot of people to covid

 

[helmut]

Banning alcohol and smoking advertising will do nothing, I agree.

Oh no, it will help. But cannot prevent everything.

You seem to think: If something doesn't help 100%, it does not help at all.

Are you sure the vaccine lower infection rates?

As to infection rate: It is not sure, because vaccinated people usually get only a slight illness (when infected) which may be overlooked. But AFAIK research has shown they spread less of the virus, especially in the first 4 months or so.

Vaccinatiion prevents severe cases. If more than 70% are vaccinated, and more than 90% of patients in an intensive care room are not vaccinated (numbers from Germany), this is a strong indication that vaccination prevents severe cases.

Gibraltar, 100% are vaccinated yet deaths per million is one of the highest in the world.

A closer look on the Gibraltar cases shows that most deaths occurred when the people were not vaccinated. You are "lying with statistics".

 

[Ivan Hlavanda]

in my county, most people over age 60 are vaccinated

daily there are new hospitalizations & deaths
so I guess the young, unvaccinated (under 60) are choosing hospitalization & death over getting vaccinated

there are many counties in my state
mine is in the top 10 for deaths, so we are losing a lot of people to covid

During the first year of the pandemic 25 children and teenagers died as a direct result of Covid-19 in England.
Children seen to be at greatest risk of severe illness and death from coronavirus were in ethnic minority groups, and those with pre-existing medical conditions or severe disabilities.

Few countries already banned moderna and astra zeneca for under 30s
Some European countries suspend Moderna shots for those 30 and under

So why are we vaccinating children where the risk of death is extremely rare. Have you not heard how children had heart problems from taking the vaccine? You know how many young people had extremely bad reactions from the vaccine? If not have a look at this website Home - No More Silence - Telling Our Stories

My 26 cousin who is a teacher had to take the jab in order to continue her job, you know what happened to her? She couldn't move for 2 days. My former 42 year old colleague, same, her legs got extremely swollen she couldn't move, she is so scared to have the 2nd jab now she would rather catch covid.

There is a lot of youth sharing similar stories. If some countries banned the vaccines for U30, when for youth it is much more deadly to catch the flu than covid, why is the vaccine all of the sudden mandatory? How can they make something mandatory that is still in trial until 2023? How can they make it mandatory when no one claims responsibility for? Not to mention no one knows what the long term effects will be. Doctors and scientists recommended thalidomide too. We know what happened next. What if the jab turns up to be another thalidomide, then what?

The nazis too did their experiments for 'the good of the people.' And I always get suspicious when someone wants to force me to do something and they say 'it is for your good'. There was a good reason for the Nuremberg trials.

 

[Ivan Hlavanda]

A closer look on the Gibraltar cases shows that most deaths occurred when the people were not vaccinated. You are "lying with statistics".

I meant cases not deaths, I apologise for this error. 1500 cases per million. That's very high compare to others. So it seems like the vaccinated spread it as much as non-vaccinated. Therefore it cannot be mandatory. Either way it goes it can't. Look I am not against the vaccine, I am against the mandatory vaccine and vaccinated children.

Vaccinatiion prevents severe cases. If more than 70% are vaccinated, and more than 90% of patients in an intensive care room are not vaccinated (numbers from Germany), this is a strong indication that vaccination prevents severe cases.

Few weeks ago, in Czech Republic, 27 died of covid in a day, 18 were vaccinated and 9 were not. In that whole week more vaccinated died than not vaccinated. 57% of population in Czech republic is vaccinated. It looks like it varies from place to place. And it looks like the effect of the vaccines is getting lower in 6 months so boosters and needed.

Look have your vaccine, have a booster if you want it, have it every week. Don't force others.

 

[Lost4words]

I aint taking the jab! Nope...

 

[Taodeching]

Satan is having his way.

Yep by introducing a half made virus in the world and by making sure people are anti-vax. Satan love the fact that people have no compassion for others now, he is giddy with excitement that people refuse the vaccine and spread lies about it. Satan i giddy that people are needlessly filling up the ICU's and taking beds away from others because they refuse hlep n the form of the vaccine. Satan is giddy with the fact that people needlessly are rude to medical staff, those same people who needlessly take up resources. Satan is having his way and even the who claim Christ allows Satan to do as he wishes now

 

[Taodeching]

After reading this, I rated your post as "Like".


This let me undo my rating.

Sorry to hear that something needs to be done because it is more then clear that people are very selfish now and the love has grown cold. If asking people to do the right thing isn't working then much tougher measures need to be put in place. The governments need to stop playing around.

 

[Lost4words]

Vaccine has issues.

It doesnt stop you getting covid
It doesnt stop you passing on covid
It doesnt stop you dying of covid
Nobody knows long term effects of the vaccines

 

[dqhall]

in my county, most people over age 60 are vaccinated

daily there are new hospitalizations & deaths
so I guess the young, unvaccinated (under 60) are choosing hospitalization & death over getting vaccinated

there are many counties in my state
mine is in the top 10 for deaths, so we are losing a lot of people to covid

In the U.S. 700,000 people have lost their ability to smell due to COVID.
More than 700K people in the US may have lost their sense of smell to COVID, study estimates

In Colorado intensive care unit bed vacancies are at a pandemic low.
ICU bed availability at record low in Colorado

 

[Taodeching]

It doesn't stop you getting covid

Neither does any other vaccine

It doesn't stop you passing on covid

Neither does any other vaccne

It doesn't stop you dying of covid

Yes it does, what you stated is an anti-vax lie

Nobody knows long term effects of the vaccines

There are non, the vaccine does what your body does every single day which sends instructions to produce things to keep you alive. This vaccine has been in the works since 1983 and in production for ten yeas for SARS-COV-1 and modified for SARS-COV-2. Literally that is all the shot does and nothing more

 

[Lost4words]

Neither does any other vaccine


Neither does any other vaccne



Yes it does, what you stated is an anti-vax lie



There are non, the vaccine does what your body does every single day which sends instructions to produce things to keep you alive. This vaccine has been in the works since 1983 and in production for ten yeas for SARS-COV-1 and modified for SARS-COV-2. Literally that is all the shot does and nothing more

We shall see in years to come

 

[helmut]

The nazis too did their experiments for 'the good of the people.' And I always get suspicious when someone wants to force me to do something and they say 'it is for your good'. There was a good reason for the Nuremberg trials.

The vaccination is not an experiment.

In an emergency situation, you have to act fast, and this includes the risk of decisions that turn out to be not optimal, or even simply wrong.

Unlike USA, the EU id more controls (no emergency certification), sometimes we learned from studies about vaccination in the USA.

Some European countries suspend Moderna shots for those 30 and under

Well, my country (Germany) also does. So does Austria*. I suppose most (all?) countries in the EU do so,

*Quote and translation by me:

Handelsname/Firma/ab/ Impfstoffart/Empfohlenes Intervall (mögliches Intervall), 1./2. Impfung
Comirnaty/BioNTech(Pfizer)/12 Jahre/mRNA-Impfstoff/21 Tage (zwischen 19-42 Tagen)
Spikevax/Moderna/30 Jahren/mRNA-Impfstoff28 Tage (zwischen 21-42 Tagen)

trade name/company/since/kind of vaccine/recommended interval (possible interval 1st/2nd vaccination
Comirnaty/BioNTech(Pfizer)/12 years/mRNA vaccine/21 days (between 19-42 days)
Spikevax/Moderna/30 years/mRNA vaccine/28days (between 21-42 days)

EDIT: Forgot some words in translation ...

 

[helmut]

I meant cases not deaths,

Doesn't make much difference. Most of the cases occured when people are not vaccinated. The now wave has to do with the end of protection after vacciantion (unlöess you get "boostered").

1500 cases per million. That's very high compare to others.

Its not very high coompared to local hot spots with a similar size as Gibraltar. It seems the people trusted too much in vaccination.

So it seems like the vaccinated spread it as much as non-vaccinated.

Nope. It spreads slower, and the rate of deaths is next to zero, despite the growing number of cases. I will surely rise, but if the vaccine did nothing good, it should now be at about one death every two days.

Let me tell it in a "picture": There is a wildfire in the forest, the firefighters come and extinguish it, but when the wind gets stronger, some nests inflame again. And then you come and say: "Send the firefighters home, they are of no use at all, since the fire is burning again!"

Look have your vaccine, have a booster if you want it, have it every week. Don't force others.

Take maintenance for the brakes in your vehicle, if you like, but don't force others do do so ... really?

Vaccination is not only to protect oneself, but to protect others. So is wearing a mask, keeping 2 yards distance, disinfection etc.

 

[helmut]

Vaccine has issues.

It doesnt stop you getting covid

It reduces the possibility to get it.

It doesnt stop you passing on covid

It reduces the possibility to pass it.

It doesnt stop you dying of covid

It reduces the possibility to die of covid, though not as sharp as the aforementioned reductions.

Nobody knows long term effects of the vaccines

Well, they disappear rather soon, the most long-term effect is the immunization, which lasts for months.

There may be short-term effects that get discovered only when very much people got vaccinated, and there may be long-term effect that are a sort of replica of the long-term-reffect from the virus, and to all what we know about vaccination (specific or in general), they will be less (rarer, or less severe, not so lethal) as the original virus effects.

 

[helmut]

This vaccine has been in the works since 1983 and in production for ten yeas for SARS-COV-1 and modified for SARS-COV-2. Literally that is all the shot does and nothing more

Which vaccine do you speak about? Certainly not Comirnaty from BioNtech (distributed in the US by Pfizer), which has a quite different history.

Since we are from different countries, we discuss a set of different vaccines, if you speak about a specific vaccine, name it, please.

EDIT: better wording, same content

 

[helmut]

Yesterday seen in TV news: There has been a big demonstration (up to 100,000 people) against the new covid-19 measures.

Someone mentioned the possibility demonstrators could be vaccinated on that occasion by people lurking gullies and stinging the vaccines in their legs, or spreading water mixed with vaccines from helicopters on them. So you could see protestors with umbrellas (in the sunshine!).

As the anchorwoman said: Nothing is so stupid that these people will not believe it, as long as it fits their world-view.

EDIT: corrected first version (from memory) after reading in the net, see italics, if you've read the old version

 

[Rachel20]

What are people's thoughts of this?

Compulsory vacination is a forced medical procedure and, as such, completely unethical. Giving governments this kind of power starts us on a course we may seriously regret. Just from the health aspect, it may be the biggest blunder in history if certain scientists are correct about the dangers of mass-vacination of all age groups with a leaky vaccine in the middle of a pandemic. This has never been done before. We may be creating a global petri dish in which the least dangerous variant is wiped out, allowing more lethal vaccine-resistant variants to thrive and spread. And what good is a booster of alpha-targetting vaccine against a delta variant? Especially if vaccine-induced antibodies out compete natural ones, yet don't neutralize them? We could be making matters worse. And that doesn't even address the dangers of vaccine enhanced disease, of which antibody-dependant enhancement (ADE) is only a subset.

 

[Blade]

I am no leader of a country... what gets me is.. unless I am wrong and can be.. vaccine or not you can still get covid and then get it again and pass it alone. So it won't stop anything. I know they are working on getting new born babies the shot. Why? No really why? It won't stop covid.. we still have the flu. Yes I know they want to stop how fast it spreads but thats it again.. it does not stop it from spreading.

As a bother said.. same here. Not getting the shot.. oh and there are friends close friends got the shot and JUST got over covid again after having got the shot months ago. Oh my wife tells me about her friends at work sick got covid.. and YES they all had the shot.

So I don't know.. I don't think its wise to force..

 

[ThisIsMe123]

I am no leader of a country... what gets me is.. unless I am wrong and can be.. vaccine or not you can still get covid and then get it again and pass it alone.

So what's your point? That's always been the case. It's a non-sterilizing vaccine. Be glad it reduces your chances of dying or damage to the body.

Be glad the Covid vaccine reduces the severity of it.