Genesis is Barely Literal

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Never said it was a literal day God took an nap in.

What it say is ... He ceased from His work of creation and created a day for mankind ... blessed the day and made it holy as well.
 
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What time is it in the the Triangulum Galaxy?
Im no scientist as im only 17 but heres a link on this. Its millions of light years from earth calculating time in distant galaxies are very much theoretical
One of the most influential physicists to have ever lived, Albert Einstein,
Most Quantum Physicist dont affirm Albert Einstien as authoritative in their views.
 
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What it say is ... He ceased from His work of creation and created a day for mankind ... blessed the day and made it holy as well.
Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. (Genesis 2:1-3)
 
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The Bible doesnt say take it literal or not its all personal(subjective). I am in full faith in Christ, testimony helps me stay following Christ
Just because you arent an Bible Literalist doesnt mean you dont believe the historical and reliable proof that stems from it.

You are a what 17 year old child, it will be seen how your life turns out after you get hit by the world a few times.
 
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Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. (Genesis 2:1-3)

shabath: to
Original Word: שָׁבַת
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shabath
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-bath')
Definition: to cease, desist, rest
 
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shabath: to
Original Word: שָׁבַת
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shabath
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-bath')
Definition: to cease, desist, rest
Ok? I said exactly what my views were.
 
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Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. (Genesis 2:1-3)

Why did God bless and sanctify the 7th day? Why is Jesus Lord over it? Why did Jesus and all the disciples keep it (and please don't give me they were Jews answer) I think Jesus (who is God) kept the 7th day Sabbath, and Jesus is our example in everything.

1 Peter 2:21

21For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps
 
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The Same way as literally everyone the day of rest
The sabbath was a symbol, a shadow of the rest from our own works in Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 4:3
For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, “As I swore in My wrath, they shall not enter My rest,”
 
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This, not taking the Bible as literal, i see as part of either the falling away (that would depend on if we are close to that time) or a kind of setting the stage for a falling away.

It is easy to drop something a person does not believe in.
The old creation was a shadow of the new creation in Christ Jesus.

Romans 5:14
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
 
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Why did God bless and sanctify the 7th day? Why is Jesus Lord over it? Why did Jesus and all the disciples keep it (and please don't give me they were Jews answer) I think Jesus (who is God) kept the 7th day Sabbath, and Jesus is our example in everything.

1 Peter 2:21

21For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps
The example Jesus set for us was a divine love for humanity. Not obedience to the letter of the law.

Acts 15:10
Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?

That yoke in the verse above is the unbearable written law. We live now by walking in the Spirit as Jesus walked in the Spirit.
 
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Why did God bless and sanctify the 7th day?
Because Both Genesis 2:3 and Exodus 20:11 say that God "blessed" and "hallowed" the rest day. What does it mean for God to bless a day? I think it means that he makes the day a time of blessing. When God blesses a man, the man becomes rich with blessings. When he blesses a land, the land becomes rich with blessings. So when he blesses a day, that day becomes rich with blessings.
And what does it mean that he hallows the day? "Hallows" is the same word as "sanctifies." It means set the day aside for special focus on what is holy, namely, God and his holy works. Genesis 2:1-3 serves as a conclusion to the first creation account. The first verse acts as a summary statement to the account of the creative activity that God accomplishes in Gen 1:1-31, while 2:2-3 describes the rest that is the result of that completed activity.
Why is Jesus Lord over it?
Because hes God?
Why did Jesus and all the disciples keep it
Jesus followed every law of God because he has never sinned a day in his life and the disciples mainly because they were followers of God.
 
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Well i will say, that at least you (do'xatotheo') are in a way, up front about your theology.

And not like quite a few (practically all) literal identifying creationist, who say they believe in a literal reading and believing of The Bible. But when they actually state their literal beliefs. These beliefs fall way short of an actual literal reading and believing of The Bible.

They have basically taken Adam and plucked him out of The Bible and placed him in sciences creation lie.
 
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Well i will say, that at least you (do'xatotheo') are in a way, up front about your theology.

And not like quite a few (practically all) literal identifying creationist, who say they believe in a literal reading and believing of The Bible. But when they actually state their literal beliefs. These beliefs fall way short of an actual literal reading and believing of The Bible.

They have basically taken Adam and plucked him out of The Bible and placed him in sciences creation lie.
I dont really follow science too an extent but I also dont follow modern lies about them. I believe Adam and Eve were truly human but not like us but more ancient. If people accept a view it gotta be biblically consistent and not just to cling to modern lies.
 
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hominoids are, now I aint a full blown evolutionist but like think about it does it really make sense that Adam and Eve had similar traits to us even though they were the first ever humans to exist?
The second law of thermodynamics disagrees with evolution. As to your comments here in regards to Adam and Eve? Common they were the first creation of mankind made directly in the image of God according to the scriptures *Genesis 1:26-27 so we should be careful what we believe and present on a Christian forum as truth. Evolution, I believe is offensive to God and does not demonstrate faith. Just my 2 cents.

Take care.
 
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The second law of thermodynamics disagrees with evolution.
What?? You dont seem to know what your talking about.
https://media.springernature.com/lw...aObjects/12052_2009_195_Fig1_HTML.gif?as=webp
s to your comments here in regards to Adam and Eve? Common they were the first creation of mankind made directly in the image of God according to the scriptures *Genesis 1:26-27 so we should be careful what we believe and present on a Christian forum. Evolution, I believe is offensive to God and does not demonstrate faith. Just my 2 cents.
Ok? This post doesn't break the rules so interesting this is in controversial theology for a reason friend. Also, its an theory on wat Adam looks like not objective its subjective we dont know wat he looks like we werent alive to know.
 
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The second law of thermodynamics disagrees with evolution. As to your comments here in regards to Adam and Eve? Common they were the first creation of mankind made directly in the image of God according to the scriptures *Genesis 1:26-27 so we should be careful what we believe and present on a Christian forum as truth. Evolution, I believe is offensive to God and does not demonstrate faith. Just my 2 cents.

Take care.
Also before you engage on topics you lack knowledge on should just look at this image.
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It is you who does not know what the 2nd law of thermodynamics is and why I posted it earlier. You have only posted examples of thermodynamics as heat loss and application to scientific operation which is not relevant to what I posted. These are only examples which demonstrates the law but the meaning as to why I posted it if your interested is that the second law of thermodynamics states that entropy increases. That is disorganization in the universe is constantly increasing. This is a science based teaching that is in contradiction to the theory of evolution and something that is demonstrated in real life as evolution teaches that we are evolving into a higher state of organization. In real life this is not demonstrated.
Ok? This post doesn't break the rules so interesting this is in controversial theology for a reason friend. Also, its an theory on wat Adam looks like not objective its subjective we dont know wat he looks like we werent alive to know.
As posted earlier and shown through the scriptures, Adam and Eve were the first creation of all mankind and they were made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27). They were not monkeys.

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As posted earlier and shown through the scriptures, Adam and Eve were the first creation of all mankind and they were made in the image of God. They were not monkeys.
Never said they were and thats not what evolution is.
It is you who does not know what the 2nd law of thermodynamics is and why I posted it earlier. You have only posted an example of thermodynamics of heat loss which demonstrates the law but the meaning as to why I posted it if your interested is that the second law of thermodynamics states that entropy increases. That is disorganization in the universe is constantly increasing. This is a science based teaching that is in contradiction to the theory of evolution and something that is demonstrated in real life as evolution teaches that we are evolving into a higher state of organization.
I know the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Secondly,
the second law of thermodynamics states that “the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time”.
It’s very important to explain greatly what an “isolated system” is. Isolated, in this context, means no energy flows in or out. And that clearly isn’t true in the case of life. Life constantly takes in energy, the Earth isn't an isolated system because it takes in energy constantly friend. Entropy is a measure of the number of ways something can exist and still look more or less the same. Entropy requires a closed system with no inflow or outflow of energy. Earth and life on earth are both quite clearly not closed systems.
 
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Never said they were and thats not what evolution is. I know the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Secondly, the second law of thermodynamics states that “the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time”. It’s very important to explain greatly what an “isolated system” is. Isolated, in this context, means no energy flows in or out. And that clearly isn’t true in the case of life. Life constantly takes in energy, the Earth isn't an isolated system because it takes in energy constantly friend. Entropy is a measure of the number of ways something can exist and still look more or less the same. Entropy requires a closed system with no inflow or outflow of energy. Earth and life on earth are both quite clearly not closed systems.

Once again your talking about things no one is talking about. We are not talking about isolated systems are we. This is just a distraction to what was originally posted to you in application to your claims of evolution and Adam and Eve.
 
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Once again your talking about things no one is talking about. We are not talking about isolated systems are we.
U said the second law of thermodynamics contradict evolution and im explaining what the law actually is and how it doesn't im defending my view on Adam and eve bro.
 
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