I am not ashamed of the gospel...

[renniks]

You have proven again you do not know the gospel of Jesus Christ.

There are things man must do, Mark 16:15-16.
We must believe
We must repent
We must obey

You sound like a universalist

I'm not.
Again none of that is what saves. You don't know how to separate our actions from God's actions.
I must allow the life guard to tow me in but that doesn't make my inactivity the thing that saved me.

 

[renniks]

Early you said you did not say this.
You are a very confused man.

Go back and look. I said you didn't understand what I said. You need to slow down and try to read my entire posts.

 

[New Testament Christian]

I'm not.
Again none of that is what saves. You don't know how to separate our actions from God's actions.
I must allow the life guard to tow me in but that doesn't make my inactivity the thing that saved me.

That example you use is terrible. It is not Biblical.

Give a Biblical example of someone doing nothing to be saved. You no longer believe in faith alone.

You now believe in Grace alone + nothing else
You still do not understand the gospel.

 

[renniks]

Babies are saved without the blood of Christ.

Wow. You think I'm confused? By no other name, remember? Show me where in the gospels we are told anyone is saved apart from Christ.
That's cultish thinking.

 

[renniks]

Give a Biblical example of someone doing nothing to be saved. You no longer believe in faith alone.

Grace alone through faith alone. Same as always.

 

[renniks]

Jesus shed His blood for sinners, not for the pure, unblemished babies that are exactly like Jesus,

Another unbiblical statement. You are on a roll.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.

The difference is that babies can not be accountable because they don't understand they sin. But that doesn't make them exactly like Jesus.

 

[renniks]

Give a Biblical example of someone doing nothing to be saved.

Thief on the cross. He didn't confess or repent or obey. He just asked Christ to remember him. There's actually no indication he even knew that salvation was available to him. God saved him anyway.

 

[renniks]

LIAR LIAR LIAR,
QUOTE ME SAYING APART FROM CHRIST YOU LIAR,

Rule violation.

 

[New Testament Christian]

Another unbiblical statement. You are on a roll.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.

The difference is that babies can not be accountable because they don't understand they sin. But that doesn't make them exactly like Jesus.

Psalm 51:5
Behold I was brought forth in sin,
AND IN SIN MY MOTHER, MOTHER,MOTHER, CONCEIVED ME.

David was not born a sinner.

His mother was in sin when she bore David!

You do not know the scriptures

 

[New Testament Christian]

Rule violation.

I am telling you again you Liar!

Quote me saying we are saved without God!

You made up a lie now give me the post where I said we are saved apart from Christ!

Lying about others is a rule violation against Gods law.

You will answer to God on judgment day.

Give the post where I said we are saved apart from God you liar!

 

[renniks]

Psalm 51:5
Behold I was brought forth in sin,
AND IN SIN MY MOTHER, MOTHER,MOTHER, CONCEIVED ME.

David was not born a sinner.

His mother was in sin when she bore David!

You do not know the scriptures

Knowledge and interpretation are two different things. You might want to learn that if you expect to to stay on the forum. You will find that many people who know the scriptures quite well don't interpret them the way you do and getting mad doesn't change anything, it just makes you look bad.

 

[renniks]

I am telling you again you Liar!

Quote me saying we are saved without God!

You made up a lie now give me the post where I said we are saved apart from Christ!

Lying about others is a rule violation against Gods law.

You will answer to God on judgment day.

Give the post where I said we are saved apart from God you liar!

#380. You said babies are saved without Christ's blood.

 

[New Testament Christian]

Knowledge and interpretation are two different things. You might want to learn that if you expect to to stay on the forum. You will find that many people who know the scriptures quite well don't interpret them the way you do and getting mad doesn't change anything, it just makes you look bad.

YOU ARE A LIAR!!!

Give your evidence! You accused me of saying we are saved apart from God!

You are lying about members on here.

Now post where I said this you liar! Quote me!!!

You have slandered me, now post the quote where I said this you liar!

 

[New Testament Christian]

#380. You said babies are saved without Christ's blood.

That is not without God. They have always had God.

I never said anyone can be saved without God you liar!
Now quote me saying sinners can be saved without God you liar!

 

[New Testament Christian]

That is not without God. They have always had God.

I never said anyone can be saved without God you liar!
Now quote me saying sinners can be saved without God you liar!

Babies have never been separated from God.
Only sinners are separated from God.

 

[New Testament Christian]

#380. You said babies are saved without Christ's blood.

Christ's blood is shed for who?
SINNERS!!!
Sinners are separated from God.
Babies have no sin!
They have never been separated from God.

I never once made a claim that the LOST CAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD.

Every sinner needs the blood of Christ.

You have twisted my words and perverted what I said. You Liar.

 

[New Testament Christian]

Thief on the cross. He didn't confess or repent or obey. He just asked Christ to remember him. There's actually no indication he even knew that salvation was available to him. God saved him anyway.

Wrong, the thief believed Jesus was the Messiah.
The thief was repentant of his sins
The thief humbled himself to Christ's authority.

The thief did not need to obey Jesus' gospel it was not in effect, Hebrews 9:16-17.
You liar!

 

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