Can marriage ever be a sin if both are Christian

[mikeforjesus]

I believe I was wrong as bible says he who takes his hand to plow and looks back is not fit for kingdom of God as I could be called if God blessed me and equipped me to do so because He may not will marriage for me as He has gifted me and called me as Paul said are you loosed from a wife do not seek it do you have a wife do not seek it if person is called though it would not be a sin as Paul said does he not have right for believing wife but he said he did not use his right not to hinder gospel but it should be only if they are ready and they would not be lukewarm because if they are it is better if person is not married as you need to not be lukewarm

and Jesus said some hearing the word having desire for other things it chokes the word and they become unfruitful

Also 1 Corinthians 10:10 says I should not complain so I should be content and 1 Corinthians 10:6 says I should not lust after evil things my seeking to marry could be really a desire for myself to be satisfied on earth so would be an earthly thing not as much for serving God to seek His righteousness and I have been gifted so I should not and could be evil so I should not also I think I was wrong and it may be a sin for a virgin to marry a non virgin as calling to mind what I said before I believe it is right as God wants virgins not to show He is against fornication so people don’t think people can often commit fornication or commit fornication without consequences and one should not support others being unforgiving not to accept another who changed like them and to not consider them

as below says only those who followed God and repent as they have chance can have crown and if one thinks of not following he could not have chance but die and lose his chance and if one does not repent as he has chance he can lose his chance to repent as he can die while not seeking to repent


1 Corinthians 9:24-27
Striving for a Crown
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.


1 Corinthians 10:1-12
Old Testament Examples
1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it

 

[mikeforjesus]

I thought maybe I should marry as I don’t seem to be doing anything for God but I think I should wait on God to be focused on the things of God instead to not be distracted to show my devotion to Jesus He may give gift of service to Him if one marries he could lose gift God blesses single people with more passion if they are able to be content to live without as Paul said below.

I don’t want to be lukewarm as Paul said he thinks it is better for all men to be as him but everyone has their own gift so if I may have gift I should if I married it would not be a sin it does not mean one would necessarily be lukewarm but it may be harder to not be because you are required to respond to opportunities you have when God visits and gives gift and opportunity and help to follow in a way it could be His plan for me and the world could be a hindrance as Paul said he said it is better to be single to serve the Lord without distraction.

Because if your passion is for the Lord and you have to live a married life you could be distracted and not be as dedicated to Lord but you don’t have to be and being single has greater fruit so I choose it if God will give me gift.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35
32 But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. 34 There is a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction

 

[mikeforjesus]

I was thinking to marry as I thought others may think I make bad image of Christian for teaching to waste opportunity God gives to marry and to encourage people to reject marriage as though it is not something positive and good though not required to increase spread of Christianity and to not give image one is unstable and Christianity is the cause of it to make one afraid of marriage and I felt my life may seem a waste as I did not feel I can do anything like others who know how to speak to instruct others and grow people in faith and I didn’t know there is anything for me but maybe I can learn or I can find my purpose so I won’t seek marriage as I should not care what others think and I should not try to make marriage most important thing for others to think that is purpose of life if people are marrying that all should marry but it is to follow God and get to heaven to be saved

 

[SkyWriting]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns


In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people


I thought marriage is never a sin if person is Christian as Paul said he who marries has not sinned but such will have trouble in the flesh


But could it be a sin if the other person possibility may not be a true Christian if they are not of similar background to atleast be born in Christian family though it is possible one is a Christian if one is not

What other situations is it a sin ?

But how can it take them by surprise if Christ will come after the tribulation do you think some will not even believe they are in the tribulation because how then can it take them by surprise ?

My dad says when Paul says in the last days people will forbid marriage it means because people will live together without getting married I don’t think however it is necessary to get married and have kids you may not raise in God if one is not spiritual but this means people should not sin and if they do they must repent

I am convinced now that I should not marry because it may not work out my father thought it was good for me though I don’t have to and my grandfather
my dads father told me before he died he wanted me to get married but my father said I don’t have to listen to him if I thought it was good and I was able to do something for the Lord I would think to get married but I think being single is being more profitable for the Lord the barren has more children than one who is married because you should not make people feel they have to get married which being single is maybe more safe and good for some and you don’t know if you will meet one suitable

unless I am convinced being married is good if I meet one suitable I don’t think I should get married

Paul said he was worst sinner who ever lived. So he's cool?
1 Timothy 1:15
The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Yes but he was an apostle of God and knew God will he repented of sin as he had opportunity it was from his heart he also commited those sins in ignorance to make one more sure to have opportunity to repent and to make one more likely to truly repent from heart but people have to repent as they have opportunity. Many have done sins they may wish they never done nearly everyone has done sins against people they wanted forgiveness for affecting others and those sins are against God because people are not trustworthy in themselves so everyone is in need of forgiveness by God but God forgives because He knows everyone is responsible for themselves that nothing can be done against a person that God does not permit and God does not judge if a person was not given a chance to accept the truth that is fair

 

[mikeforjesus]

I thought to marry as I thought it is good to make sure there are many Christians but God does not need many few are needed the world is responsible to convert I watched sermons on hell and realise that how I am living may not be wise that marriage should only be for those who have shown they have relationship with God and bible says fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom so decided I should not and to seek to serve God to win others to God not focusing on myself but growing

 

[mikeforjesus]

I thought maybe one should marry because it could be right thing to do to ensure the nation is strong as Christian that there are many who will seek to populate it otherwise America could lose its strength to be able to defend itself and to help others but I believe it may not be necessary if one accepts only people who do not follow a religion that supports killing people for sake of God which is evil as that is not true God but evil God for true God would not kill those who do not agree with something they see as false to force and not to accept many others if they follow a religion that teaches killing others who they disagree with only those who flee persecution no one can prove it is not true and those do not actually believe killing is right because once accepted you can not send back unless situation is very bad if they have not converted to Christian with true conversion and I am not saying one should not marry but only if person already has strong relationship with God knowing if he is accepted or not and seeing clearly God will and though marriage is never to be forbidden or sin it may not be God will because person is not ready and so marriage can harm one if one does not yet have relationship with God as he may not find one though he could if he tries harder but it is better as he may not be so won’t help others or his family so it is better not to

 

[Strong in Him]

I thought maybe one should marry because it could be right thing to do to ensure the nation is strong as Christian that there are many who will seek to populate it otherwise America could lose its strength to be able to defend itself and to help others but I believe it may not be necessary if one accepts only people who do not follow a religion that supports killing people for sake of God which is evil as that is not true God but evil God for true God would not kill those who do not agree with something they see as false to force and not to accept many others if they follow a religion that teaches killing others who they disagree with only those who flee persecution no one can prove it is not true and those do not actually believe killing is right because once accepted you can not send back unless situation is very bad if they have not converted to Christian with true conversion and I am not saying one should not marry but only if person already has strong relationship with God knowing if he is accepted or not and seeing clearly God will and though marriage is never to be forbidden or sin it may not be God will because person is not ready and so marriage can harm one if one does not yet have relationship with God as he may not find one though he could if he tries harder but it is better as he may not be so won’t help others or his family so it is better not to

Have you got a girlfriend?
Is she a Christian?
Do you love her and do you both want to be together?
Have you talked about marriage?
Have you prayed together about this?

If the answer to these is "yes"; go ahead and get married.
If the answer is no - especially to the first one, I'd say, stop worrying about it. No one says, "intellectually, I have decided it is a good idea to marry; will you have me?" They meet with someone, go out a few times, decide if they want to be in a relationship with each other, and take it from there.
Get into a relationship, find out if you love your partner, talk about what you BOTH want to happen in the future and go for it, trusting in God.
A marriage is a picture of how Christ loves his church - we are the bride of Christ. A Christian marriage can be a powerful testimony to those who don't believe in marriage, live with their partners and/or change them frequently. If both partners are Christians you can, together, do great things for God, and maybe more than if you were single.

Or, if you think being single is best; be content with that. If you meet someone you like, your feelings and thoughts may change.
It's not really a thing that you can intellectualise about.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe it is a mistake to speak against marriage you dont have to but it is a good thing to do Christians if they have opportunity should marry to make sure Christians does not decrease that many are Christian. I believe perhaps as with parable of the Mina if I don’t marry I won’t be as profitable to give a positive image of Christianity as not lazy and you don’t have to earn 10 Mina’s in that parable but it is more profitable. In parable of talents you are given talents that one always has at every stage that one should use not what you gain such as marriage.

I was scared to marry but I thought it would be good but I did not want to marry only because I see some Christians saying those who want earthly things are not following God I believe they are wrong unless I especially knew God planned for me to be single for a purpose and He showed me already I believe it is better I get married as I could lose my chance to marry one appropriate for my age and God may not want people to despise marriage and one can follow God as married though one could be distracted to provide for wife and children yet one should be able to help a bit and mission for other things is better for those who are gifted energetic one able to talk for long periods where people hear one and one that was already called he had an understanding of God will already and one is very close to Lord already and influential who can labor in a place for a long time to talk and to make disciples that others listen to he can convince encourage and teach people to grow them. I also was afraid to marry only because I saw video on hell teaching being against prosperity preachers and goal is not to be rich but if I just seek to marry and do not live for the purpose of being rich but seek first kingdom to care only for my daily bread not worrying about tommorow putting God kingdom first I would be satisfied as that is my purpose I do not put my focus on achieving success first which is wrong with prosperity preaching as though that is the first thing one should seek as though success is promised for all even if they don’t put God first but God wants people to seek Him first then if they do He may give them ability to also do other things for one to succeed if it is the purpose God made for that person to be more profitable it is not promised to say you must even marriage if God does not think it good for me if He thinks it is a path which makes me further from Him if I pray He may not give me anyone as bible says you can ask and not receive as you ask amiss that you may spend it on your pleasures if He knows that path may not be best for me to be fruitful or if it is He won't if I am not prepared yet for it

so I believe I should seek to marry
I know some see it as selfish to marry as a person could spend less time seeking to grow for service to others spiritually to gain knowledge and sharing it with others it if one has to work to provide for family and to feel the need to spend time with family but spouse could try to make you spend too much time which you feel compelled to but it would be better if spouse understood and it would be their fault you have a duty only to provide for wife the wife has duty as Christian to also allow enough time for spiritual stuff if person provides for them and time is given to them it may seem selfish to marry as person seems to care more for himself to have earthly things than serving God but one may feel he should marry as others may think I make bad image of Christian for teaching to waste opportunity God gives to marry to make people hate marriage it looks not positive

I believe I was wrong to make a rule a virgin can not marry a non virgin and I was wrong to say that it is necessary not to allow it because there needs to be consequences to forbid it but it is not up to me to make consequences God accepts repentance and He values all and welcomes them into His family if they repent and there should not be rule as they need to be loved to know that they are accepted in all Christian family to ensure to know their care for them to value them not wishing to exclude any so that if they marry another they are to know to treat them well knowing others would accept them that they deserve the best. Marriage is God will for most if they are able to marry to be useful unless God has given other gift of self control to not often be tempted and service to be useful though it is not necessary but God wills it to show good example to society that people should not despise marriage but it is not necessary but you won’t be as fruitful if you are not already serving Paul says he wishes all were celibate if they are able but all have gift but not all have gift they still can be but they won’t be as fruitful celibate if it is not their gift

 

[mikeforjesus]

So I thought to marry but actually I don’t think I should because I believe we could be nearing Christ return I saw this site and I should not be doing anything without the Lord counsel I believe I am wrong people don’t need to marry as Paul said virgin is better caring about things of the Lord people can marry but won’t be as helpful now to have gift and it is better if person already knows God completely what His plan is for one life to be fully confident it is God will

I saw this site I remember I used to read it when I was younger when I was closer to the Lord somehow I lost trust in simplicity of Lord because I was raised to believe rituals are very important and I had feared and was focused on that I was not deeply rooted to know I was focused too much on it and earthly things and didn’t read bible and not many encouraged me before but there were some who came in my life even my dad tried to convince me and others I ignored too much but I considered and wanted to but was not sure to trust but I finally accepted as I was convicted it is right to

https://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/

 

[Strong in Him]

So I thought to marry but actually I don’t think I should because I believe we could be nearing Christ return

The Apostles thought that Christ would return in their lifetimes.
We've been waiting for Christ's return ever since the ascension. There are always people who claim to know when he will return, and so far, every single one of them has been wrong.

I saw this site and I should not be doing anything without the Lord counsel

Even if Christ does not return for another 2000 years, you should certainly pray and ask him if he wants you to marry. As I asked you before, "do you have a Christian partner and have you prayed about this together?" - or are you just intellectually trying to work out if marriage is a good thing?

I believe I am wrong people don’t need to marry

No, they don't need to marry - it depends on what is best for them and what the Lord wants for them.

I saw this site I remember I used to read it when I was younger when I was closer to the Lord

I don't know what the website says.
If it tells you when the Lord is going to return; it is wrong, no one knows. And if it is trying to tell you about marriage - the website hasn't a clue what is right for you and what the Lord is saying to you.

Never mind about websites, even this one; ask the Lord what is right for you.
Though if you don't even yet have a Christian partner, it is all academic. If, or when, you do have someone, your feelings and beliefs may change.

Even the Bible doesn't say that marriage is either right or wrong; it's up to each individual or couple.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Ok thankyou for your caring and helpful advice

 

[mikeforjesus]

That website does seem to have some wrong views not really biblical to make themselves judges that a catholic can not be saved but they have to leave their church which can not be true as even Paul says not to judge person for their personal views on eating habits or sabbaths things people have not been shown before is true that it is God will for them but the truth is that a church can become corrupt if it chooses to not follow the word of God to choose such when you know it is wrong makes one guilty if you don’t care for importance to teach truth you know is true to teach it on purpose if you don’t believe it not caring for harm you do to others if you don’t firmly believe what you teach people must not support corruption if they know something is against bible and separate from evil works they know is against bible the truth is the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Church do not emphasise as much the benefits of a persons commitment to reading the word of God but the word of God is pure it is not hate filled it says in malice be babes it teaches to love enemies and bless them so those who promote divisions to hate are not following word of God but some really believed in their theology and did not think they were hating but perhaps acted in such a way as a response to divisions the church did as there may have been people in such churches who went to church but were not converted their hearts were full of hate but people are not to judge people in churches for following church they believe in but system which promotes divisions and to teach not to hate

 

[Leavened yet Adopted]

It can be dangerous to 'marry' someone who's not a believer in this life. Faith in Christ is key though. Christ must come first.

The true meaning of marriage is explained in Hebrews 12. Those of us who don't KNOW Christ personally are bastards, those who do KNOW him are adopted into the family of God whereby we can call God our Father Abba Father, (the spiritural church, we're the bride). We're engaged with God through Christ, we've put on our engagement ring and long to be wed with him more and more, and fully enter into the joy of his pressence when he returns.

We can never claim to have gained victory over sin or be fully wedded with Christ while living in this world. Such boasting puffs us up with pride. Remember 1 John 1:8

 

[mikeforjesus]

Thanks if I get married I would only seek to marry a believer but they need to be those who are honest who are really seeking to walk with Him that I am convinced they are serious that they were really seeking to walk with Him. I do believe everyone who is genuine seeking to follow God are accepted by Him knew Him a bit but maybe they lost connection if they do not read their bible as much and pray. There are differences of opinion but if people practice what bible says they are children of God

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe whoever thinks being single is better if he is not sure he is ready to be accused of not fulfilling the obligations of marriage if they will let one serve God also perhaps should not marry as Jesus said when disciples said it is better not to marry if you can’t divorce not that they think divorce is good but if marriage could make one not fulfil duties of God that you feel you can’t if you are married you should not as it is required if you think it is harder to as married never to be loosed but you need to be with wife and to also serve God but if you think it will be harder to if you might not be a good husband to fulfil marriage obligations you should not and Jesus said whoever is able to accept it should accept it to be single there are eunuch who have made themselves eunuch for kingdom of heaven sake

So I believe I should not seek to marry to focus on other things to be sure if I am not sure how easy it will be as married to serve God for marriage not to be obstacle to serving God if you think it may be harder to

So I think it is better to marry only if you already are close to God and know Him well His plan for life.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I think rather marriage is good to help one have opportunity to serve God but it is better not to marry if one you marry will not be easy to help you serve God or not helper. Bible says he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favour from the Lord that is to help serve marriage is good and God plan but He accepts others and single is better if you have ability to do more service I will marry if one accepts me but I was afraid if others may be difficult and expect too much from me but I think God plan for many is to marry if not enough seek to it may be characteristic of end times that it becomes advised not to marry as there needs to be encouragement for people to marry that there are more Christians to be supporting it so Christians can find more to marry so they don’t have to be single and for future for other generations that there are Christians to help to support it. Not everyone can but as I think I can financially I think it might have been God plan because I never knew what else to do

 

[mikeforjesus]

I was thinking not to marry because I thought it is better not to as I do not hear from God and I think if people can not have security to know for sure it is better not to as it can be dangerous world if not having support of God to know people can try to trap others but I think I need to trust God that He protects people who go to Him and will guide those who spend time with Him

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I will not marry as I think it is preferrable not to marry if God has not spoken to me to know for sure I am accepted already or to know exactly what He wants me to do until I hear from God I think it is wise not to move for myself. Though I have hope God accepts I don't want to do until I know for sure.

 

[mikeforjesus]

The truth I think is marriage is good for Christians to do who are able to be more profitable as bible says he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favour from the Lord as God wants Christians to marry preferable to do more for the Lord if they don’t already know what else called to do anything else for greater ministry and God wants it to grow people don’t have to but it is good so I will marry if one accepts me that I believe is truly seeking to walk as Christian