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There are people and organizations that promote reducing the human population. If people suggest human lives be taken, either old or babies or any age or class, how is it they think they are exempt themselves. Should they not lead by example if they insist in this wrong philosophy?
 
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People and organisations? Who?
Anyone that promotes the taking of lives of old people, babies or etc. One example I googled is here

"Those attending included Warren Buffett, Ted Turner, George Soros, and David Rockefeller, Jr. What did they deem the world’s biggest threat? They each gave a 15-minute presentation on their primary concern for the planet. “Taking their cue from Gates, they agreed overpopulation was a priority,”
https://dean-w-arnold.com/articles-blogs/bill-gates-gathers-billionaires
 
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There are people and organizations that promote reducing the human population. If people suggest human lives be taken, either old or babies or any age or class, how is it they think they are exempt themselves. Should they not lead by example if they insist in this wrong philosophy?
Consider places like Haiti or Central America with very high fertility rates and people trying to migrate away. It is the result of lust. Such high population growth resulted in poverty and suffering. I would not oppose the efforts of people to reduce lust and out of control birth rates by education, self control and birth control.

I would oppose war and murder as ways to reduce population.
 
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Anyone that promotes the taking of lives of old people, babies or etc. One example I googled is here

"Those attending included Warren Buffett, Ted Turner, George Soros, and David Rockefeller, Jr. What did they deem the world’s biggest threat? They each gave a 15-minute presentation on their primary concern for the planet. “Taking their cue from Gates, they agreed overpopulation was a priority,”
https://dean-w-arnold.com/articles-blogs/bill-gates-gathers-billionaires
That is not an example
 
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Consider places like Haiti or Central America with very high fertility rates and people trying to migrate away. It is the result of lust. Such high population growth resulted in poverty and suffering. I would not oppose the efforts of people to reduce lust and out of control birth rates by education, self control and birth control.

I would oppose war and murder as ways to reduce population.

Are you sure that its fair and reasonable to blame the victims
of Western imperialism for their poverty, nothing racist in saying
they are morally weak?
 
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Are you sure that its fair and reasonable to blame the victims
of Western imperialism for their poverty, nothing racist in saying
they are morally weak?
When an island nation’s fertility rate is 2.8 children per woman, then they are likely poor. The fish do not procreate fast enough to fill the sea. Arable land is limited. Why blame it on imperialism? Haiti has local Black majority rule. One website states Haiti is 80% Catholic. Some Catholics are against birth control.

Niger has the highest fertility rate in the world with 6.8 children per women. Is that lust or is that imperialism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate
 
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When an island nation’s fertility rate is 2.8 children per woman, then they are likely poor. The fish do not procreate fast enough to fill the sea. Arable land is limited. Why blame it on imperialism? Haiti has local Black majority rule. One website states Haiti is 80% Catholic. Some Catholics are against birth control.

Niger has the highest fertility rate in the world with 6.8 children per women. Is that lust or is that imperialism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

Perhaps you know nothing of the history of Haiti,
starting with how a population from Africa happens to be
there?

The slave revolt the harsh sanctions by all the western powers?
Poppa Doc and Baby Doc?

The entire situation there, race, religion, language etc is the
product of western capitalist imperialism.

Its not moral bankruptcy on anyones part except the
imperialists.
 
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Perhaps you know nothing of the history of Haiti,
starting with how a population from Africa happens to be
there?

The slave revolt the harsh sanctions by all the western powers?
Poppa Doc and Baby Doc?

The entire situation there, race, religion, language etc is the
product of western capitalist imperialism.

Its not moral bankruptcy on anyones part except the
imperialists.
The situation in parts of Africa is not good either. You might blame it on their tribal problems going back centuries.
 
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Some Catholics are against birth control.
Catholics oppose only artificial birth control. Spacing children via abstinence is fine. Abstaining in order to afford a couple of Beemer's is not. Two commands given to our first parents: be fruitful and multiply, and tend the garden.
 
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The situation in parts of Africa is not good either. You might blame it on their tribal problems going back centuries.
I might.
Though no part of Africa escaped the imperialist assault.

But then as Haiti and central American countries are the places mentioned
I'd not seek to change the subject.

Fact is all those countries named have been the victims of capitalist
abuse over the course of many years.

To then say they are actually the victims of their own moral
corruption strikes me as being what some Americans might
call "insensitive". To say the least.
 
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There are people and organizations that promote reducing the human population. If people suggest human lives be taken, either old or babies or any age or class, how is it they think they are exempt themselves. Should they not lead by example if they insist in this wrong philosophy?

They should not lead by example but stop suggesting or thinking murder is acceptable.
 
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I might.
Though no part of Africa escaped the imperialist assault.

But then as Haiti and central American countries are the places mentioned
I'd not seek to change the subject.

Fact is all those countries named have been the victims of capitalist
abuse over the course of many years.

To then say they are actually the victims of their own moral
corruption strikes me as being what some Americans might
call "insensitive". To say the least.
The U.S. recovered from British imperialism.

Did you notice Africa has suffered Islamic imperialism?
 
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Catholics oppose only artificial birth control. Spacing children via abstinence is fine. Abstaining in order to afford a couple of Beemer's is not. Two commands given to our first parents: be fruitful and multiply, and tend the garden.
My mother told me Catholics oppose artificial birth control as deprives babies the chance of being born. Haiti is an example of a population explosion. Charity workers are not safe there.
 
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Catholics oppose only artificial birth control. Spacing children via abstinence is fine. Abstaining in order to afford a couple of Beemer's is not. Two commands given to our first parents: be fruitful and multiply, and tend the garden.

Funny, since a Catholic helped develop the pill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rock_(scientist)

I don't care what method people use for birth control, but we need more of it to slow the rate of population growth.
 
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The U.S. recovered from British imperialism.

Did you notice Africa has suffered Islamic imperialism?

As if the Americans were anyhing but British imperialists
themselves. The actual locals were massacred and
whats left of them are leading tragic lives.

Africa, Islam, the USA.

I will take the ongoing dodge as tacit recognition
that the social problems in Haiti and central America
are a direct consequence of moral turpitude
on the part of Western imperialism.

We in this former colony are of course aware of
Queen Victoria ( send her victorious, happy and glorious)
and her role as figurehead for grand scale dope dealing.

In the West, its hard for people to take any responsibility.
See "lust".
 
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My mother told me Catholics oppose artificial birth control as deprives babies the chance of being born. Haiti is an example of a population explosion. Charity workers are not safe there.

So, the imperialists populated the island with slaves, imposed a
religion that makes population control a sin.
You are getting the idea.
 
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