Hello All Premills
I say Premills because this is a question for them, everyone in this forum knows how the Amills will answer this question. The Kingdom is spiritual in nature was set up during the fourth Kingdoms reign ie Rome 2,000 years ago end of story. But to Premills you must have an answer for this or .......Huston we have a problem!!!!!
So in Daniel 2: and Daniel 7: we are told that there are four Great Kingdoms that will dominate the world. Daniel 2 gives us a starting point ie: Babylon. Of the Fourth Kingdom Daniel 2 states.
[40] And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.[41] And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.[42] And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle. [43] As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay. [44] And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
Ok So this thread is not about the toes and feet the kings of those days Just the point that this fourth Kingdom is on Earth and ruling when God sets up his Kingdom
Now Daniel 7: says this about the fourth Beast
[19] "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet; [20] and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows. [20] and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows. [21] As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them, [22] until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.
So once again the Fourth Kingdom on Earth and ruling right up to the setting up of the Kingdom.
So this Fourth Kingdom starts and stays ruling the world (IN GOD'S EYES) from its start, to the reward of the Saints and the setting up of the Kingdom of God.
SO WHERE IS THIS KINGDOM TODAY? It has to be here, It has to have been here the whole time or Daniel's prophecy is a fraud. It has to have been here after the third Kingdom and been here the whole time or Daniel is just plain wrong.
So is God Wrong????????? or is the Kingdom here and has been here the Whole Time?
This being true and having to be True who is the fourth Kingdom? Who was it yesterday and 1,000 years ago and who is it today?
I say Premills because this is a question for them, everyone in this forum knows how the Amills will answer this question. The Kingdom is spiritual in nature was set up during the fourth Kingdoms reign ie Rome 2,000 years ago end of story. But to Premills you must have an answer for this or .......Huston we have a problem!!!!!
So in Daniel 2: and Daniel 7: we are told that there are four Great Kingdoms that will dominate the world. Daniel 2 gives us a starting point ie: Babylon. Of the Fourth Kingdom Daniel 2 states.
[40] And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.[41] And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.[42] And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle. [43] As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay. [44] And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
Ok So this thread is not about the toes and feet the kings of those days Just the point that this fourth Kingdom is on Earth and ruling when God sets up his Kingdom
Now Daniel 7: says this about the fourth Beast
[19] "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet; [20] and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows. [20] and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows. [21] As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them, [22] until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.
So once again the Fourth Kingdom on Earth and ruling right up to the setting up of the Kingdom.
So this Fourth Kingdom starts and stays ruling the world (IN GOD'S EYES) from its start, to the reward of the Saints and the setting up of the Kingdom of God.
SO WHERE IS THIS KINGDOM TODAY? It has to be here, It has to have been here the whole time or Daniel's prophecy is a fraud. It has to have been here after the third Kingdom and been here the whole time or Daniel is just plain wrong.
So is God Wrong????????? or is the Kingdom here and has been here the Whole Time?
This being true and having to be True who is the fourth Kingdom? Who was it yesterday and 1,000 years ago and who is it today?
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