Mark Quayle said: ↑
Nevertheless, IF God, miraculous intervention is always available.
Only if I wish to prove the premise, "God". That is not what I was trying to do.
You are relying on God to be real as a foundation for your position. Begging the question.
Mark Quayle said: ↑
The creationist doesn't hold to 'level of genetic diversity' being arrived at all. It was made as-is.
I am not concerned with people that deny the facts.
Two reasons I don't provide the evidence you request:
You don't have it.
1. I am not the creationist in the sense that I am trying to describe here. I am merely trying to help the reader understand the fault in the logic in their opposition's thinking here.
Apples and oranges. If there are creationists that deny mutations, then they are at odds with not only the more educated creationists, but demonstrable reality.
2. the evidence is not needed in order to point out the fault in the argument of their opponent.
You say your favorite baseball team is the Yankees. My response is to claim baseball is not real.
Did I really demonstrate a flaw in your position?
So: You, or somebody, used arguments assuming evolution, to show that young earth provided even less time for evolution to occur.
Are you implying that humans evolved? Or what? Mutations occur and accumulate. The YEC believes without evidence that all humans are descended from one dude made from dust no more than 10000 years ago. It thus cannot be possible for any 2 living humans to differ generically - at all - if mutations do not exist, and cannot accumulate in lineages. Your attempt to pretend that my reasoning was flawed denies the ability to use DNA to identify criminals, to identify long lost relatives, etc.
It is true that one of us did not think through our positions, but I think it is now quite clear which of us that is.
Let the reader recall that, despite you making anti-evolution implicitly science-based arguments against evolution, you were unaware of the fact that gene duplication is real until a couple of weeks ago. That should tell the reader which of us is more likely to have made a relevant argument on a subject like this.
I pointed out that that argument is bogus, as it assumes evolutionary sequences to defeat a non-evolutionary claim.
You did nothing of the sort. Mutations can accumulate without evolution (at least a YEC could argue that), and my position was premised on the claims made BY YECs. Perhaps you missed that part?
You claim the Yankees are your favorite team.
I dismiss your position by claiming it is bogus because someone else said your favorite team is the Astros.
You, or somebody, also said that "short of miraculous intervention" such and such would, or would not, happen. I provided a simple argument —presupposing God, miraculous intervention is very much possible.
And thus you admit that YECism is not reality based, as it requires magic.