Texas couple asked to leave restaurant for wearing masks

[Strathos]

Help me, please.
If my mask is keeping a virus from passing through it from me to you, why wouldn't it keep a virus from passing through it from you to me?
It's passing through exactly the same material going both ways.

Well the virus mostly travels through droplets emitted by breath from the mouth and nose. So the mask prevents those from getting out. But it won't prevent them from getting on other parts of your face, like your eyes.

 

[Hank77]

Well the virus mostly travels through droplets emitted by breath from the mouth and nose. So the mask prevents those from getting out. But it won't prevent them from getting on other parts of your face, like your eyes.

Yup, so if it keeps droplets from getting out, shouldn't it keep droplets from getting in?

 

[zippy2006]

What floors me is a business manager elevating ideology over customer service.

It's not that. That happens all the time. It's the elevation of ideology over a subjectively rational act that harms no one and potentially helps others.

Prosecution seems legitimate in this case. In a moral sense it is worse than something like racism, because you are punishing someone for doing good rather than punishing them for something they have no control over.

 

[Halbhh]

Honestly, I don't know how much good that would do, since they live with the infant. And they would be eating with the infant in close quarters at the table.

Partial mask mandates in restaurants for customers really don't make sense to me at all, besides.

Yes, they need to avoid that restaurant.

 

[HARK!]

Help me, please.
If my mask is keeping a virus from passing through it from me to you, why wouldn't it keep a virus from passing through it from you to me?
It's passing through exactly the same material going both ways.

I look at it this way. If you are talking to someone; and a virus laden phlegm ball is involuntarily ejected from his lungs; from where do you suppose that you are more likely to inhale the virus, from the inside of his mask, or from the outside of yours?

 

[Bobber]

I think the restaurant owner should be more focused on two things....servicing his customers and the business of making money.

 

[Strathos]

Yup, so if it keeps droplets from getting out, shouldn't it keep droplets from getting in?

They come out of the nose and mouth. They don't come out of the eyes. But they can get in through the eyes.

 

[Tom 1]

The couple are both vaccinated, but they have 4 month-old with cystic fibrosis. They mask in public, to reduce the chance they might spread coronavirus to their immunocompromised infant. The restaurant, in Rowlett, TX, north of Dallas, apparently has a strict no-mask policy.

What does it matter if customers wear a mask temporarily? They have to remove it to eat and drink.

If Yelp has a rating for horrible service, this dive gets 5 stars for stupid, offensive, discriminatory, and inhospitable.

A Texas couple wore face masks at a restaurant to protect their immunocompromised infant. The owner asked them to leave

Seems like all the ‘freedom!’ hoo hah is just a mask (pun intended) for another kind of conformity.

 

[trunks2k]

The article isn’t totally clear, but I doubt that the baby was with them. I suspect the couple just wanted to get out of the house for a while to have a meal with friends. I’m sure they had a sitter. (Who I’m also sure they insisted wear a mask.)

The child was not with them. The grandmother was babysitting.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Both the parents and the manager seem a bit daft to me. With the parents coming out ahead in being daft by taking an immunocompromised 4 month old to a restaurant. Last time I checked, people don't wear masks whilst dining. I wonder how crowded the place was.

 

[Mayzoo]

The article isn’t totally clear, but I doubt that the baby was with them. I suspect the couple just wanted to get out of the house for a while to have a meal with friends. I’m sure they had a sitter. (Who I’m also sure they insisted wear a mask.)

What floors me is a business manager elevating ideology over customer service. Maybe he thinks his senseless no-mask policy will resonate with like-minded people. But I’ll bet anything that the negative publicity will eventually do him in. This dude is definitely in the running for the Norman Bates “No Way To Treat a Guest” Award.

For many in Texas, this is positive publicity and many will flock there.

 

[pitabread]

For many in Texas, this is positive publicity and many will flock there.

What a sad state of affairs.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I don't do dining in. Also I would leave if the workers and peopte weren't wearing mask. If it wasn't for my dad and brother . I would only go a few times a month. Maybe less. But I don't Sue people . Over anything. It seems like people Sue people over everything.

 

[Belk]

Both the parents and the manager seem a bit daft to me. With the parents coming out ahead in being daft by taking an immunocompromised 4 month old to a restaurant. Last time I checked, people don't wear masks whilst dining. I wonder how crowded the place was.

Last I checked they did not bring the child.

 

[trunks2k]

Both the parents and the manager seem a bit daft to me. With the parents coming out ahead in being daft by taking an immunocompromised 4 month old to a restaurant. Last time I checked, people don't wear masks whilst dining. I wonder how crowded the place was.

They did not bring the kid with them. They went out on a date with eachother and left their child at home with the grandmother.

 

[Hank77]

They come out of the nose and mouth. They don't come out of the eyes. But they can get in through the eyes.

I'm not talking about the eyes at all, just the nose and mouth droplets.
If a mask keeps nose and mouth droplets (particles) in then the same mask should keep the same size nose and mouth droplets out.
So wearing a mask is not just to keep others safe but to keep the mask wearer safe as well.

 

[Sketcher]

The article isn’t totally clear, but I doubt that the baby was with them. I suspect the couple just wanted to get out of the house for a while to have a meal with friends. I’m sure they had a sitter. (Who I’m also sure they insisted wear a mask.)

What floors me is a business manager elevating ideology over customer service. Maybe he thinks his senseless no-mask policy will resonate with like-minded people. But I’ll bet anything that the negative publicity will eventually do him in. This dude is definitely in the running for the Norman Bates “No Way To Treat a Guest” Award.

I wouldn't have that rule myself unless I was having problems with masked people in the last few months (i.e. hooligans). Both sides of this are wrong in some way.

 

[Ceallaigh]

They did not bring the kid with them. They went out on a date with eachother and left their child at home with the grandmother.

Ah my bad.

However, no one in eating in a restaurant is wearing a mask. It's the worst public gathering as far as making goes. That's why I avoid restaurants.

 

[Ceallaigh]

So the restaurant's policy is don't wear a mask for the brief time before you take off your mask to eat and drink. I'm not anti-mask, but masks in restaurants really don't make much sense.

 

[hedrick]

Public Accommodations at the Federal Level
Through the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the federal government prohibits discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of the following: race, color, religion, national origin, and disability. The federal government does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of age, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity. However, numerous states protect against age, sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity discrimination.

It doesn't appear to me that they have a case under federal or state accommodation laws. They are not a protected class who can sue for discrimination.

If they were trying to protect a child with medical problems, it sounds like an ADA violation. The restaurant is prohibiting anyone with a medical condition that requires them to take more than normal care.