Do you support vaccine mandates (Poll)

Do you support vaccine mandates

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 34.3%
  • No

    Votes: 43 61.4%
  • Undecided or other (please specify)

    Votes: 3 4.3%

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Larniavc

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More than 99% of people will not develop a serious case of COVID.

They will only have a mild reaction to it, similar to what they would have with the flu.

Which means they are immune.
You need to support your assertion. And maybe show some more concern for a disease that has killed 600k Americans.
 
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Every word I said is true.

If you think otherwise, the burden of proof is on you to cite evidence to the contrary.
That is not how the burden of proof works. You made the claim you support it.

Are you new to online debate forums?
 
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This is false, completely false.

1. It is a vaccine (or rather there are 3 vaccines available in the US and several others in other countries). It works in the standard fashion of a vaccine -- it induces an immune response that teaches the immune system to recognize future invading viruses and kill them.

2. The mRNA particles and the spike proteins they manufacture only last in the blood for a few hours, not years.

3. It has not kill thousands of people.


Whatever news source you got these clearly false talking points from -- stop reading it as they lie to you.

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And I have 100 more. Real research done by real researchers and not paid government griffters with an agenda shows that this whole thing is an overblown, bogus lie.
 
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Yes. Part of loving thy neighbour is taking steps to keep him safe in a pandemic, and if it requires government mandate, so be it.

There is no pandemic. A 99% recovery rate does not qualify as a "pandemic." Come back and make your claim when 20 to 30% of the people getting the 'Rona are dying.
 
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That is not how the burden of proof works. You made the claim you support it.

Are you new to online debate forums?


Differing perspectives are necessary for debate.

If you don't disagree, or offer a conflicting perspective, there isn't anything left to discuss.


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I oppose them.

What does everyone else think?

I am not in favor of mandates. I am in favor of allowing each person to decide if this is or isn’t the best treatment for them. With the hysteria, back-pedaling, and lack of truly helpful and well-rounded information our media has given us, I fully understand the position of those who simply don’t want or don’t trust this thing.
 
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This is simply untrue and irresponsible to post on this forum.

Completely true. How many sources would you like me to quote?

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I have an easy 100 more. You know, if you stop watching the liars on CNN and the mainstream media, who are in on this, you will discover things that will both anger you and take your breath away. Something is up here, and I think these people are up to no good.
 
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You need to support your assertion. And maybe show some more concern for a disease that has killed 600k Americans.

No, it has NOT killed over 600,000 Americans. Hospitals have been caught reporting deaths from Covid that were not. The reason they did this was for the money. A hospital in Florida caught reporting a death from a motorcycle crash as Covid. A hospital in Colorado doing the same thing with a gunshot death.

Dude, really. WAKE UP!!!
 
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Number of deaths for leading causes of death
According to the Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2020–2025pdf icon[PDF-30.6MB]external icon, a healthy eating plan:

  • Emphasizes fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and fat-free or low-fat milk and milk products
  • Includes a variety of protein foods such as seafood, lean meats and poultry, eggs, legumes (beans and peas), soy products, nuts, and seeds.
  • Is low in saturated fats, trans fats, cholesterol, salt (sodium), and added sugars
  • Stays within your daily calorie needs
Healthy Eating for a Healthy Weight

So would you support food being a controlled substance, only to be prescribed by a dietician?


This is a false equivalence, and you know it. We've been pointing this out since this was an argument for "covid isn't real" or "the deaths are no big deal" last spring.

Heart disease, cancer, etc. are *ongoing* and background death rates. We should continue to work on them.

Covid is a sudden, transmissible, *ADDITIONAL*, and preventable cause of death. It can be stopped by vaccination and other interventions.

Take the shot and quit arguing against public health and for the propagation of the virus.
 
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You are deep, deep, deeply warped by the wide range of "natural medicine" and "alternative medicine" grifters. NONE of these people have an ounce of credibility and most of them should spend some time in jail.
 
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I voted other.

My general opinion (as of today, I'm not unmovable if/when new data becomes available) is to allow individuals as well as business and organizations to apply there own standard(s) and let the chips fall.

This being not unlike the no-smoking issue of a few decades ago, which I still remember well.
At first restaurants, hotels, airlines etc established small non-smoking sections. Non smokers could choose to be in those areas. When non-smokers outnumbered smokers, the establishments recognized this and the allocation flipped. A small section would allocated as smoking with the remainder of the establishment (or airline for example) as non.
Eventually, everything became non-smoking as everyone began to understand the health ramifications of even second-hand smoke.
I still remember friends/relatives who smoked being adamant about boycotting places that infringed on their right to smoke.
Over time sanity prevailed.
 
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Vaccine mandates?

Resolute yes, with exceptions for people who have legitimate medical reasons not to get them.

As we've seen with the pandemic, you can't just leave it up to people to do the right thing on their own. There are too many people not doing the right thing to prevent the spread of the virus, and consequently screwing it up for everyone else.

If you're an anti-vaxxer and/or covid-denier, the vaccines mandates are needed because of you.
 
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Which means they are immune.

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False equivalency?

The argument was made for a felt responsibility of keeping the unvaccinated safe by forcing vaccinations on them.


The immunocompromised are at risk for contracting any disease; and should remain isolated. The jab doesn't prevent anyone from contracting, nor spreading, the disease. It reduces the severity of the symptoms of those who do contract it. An argument could be made that those who took the jab are more of a threat to the immunocompromised; as they are more likely to be out of bed, running around spreading the disease.

Those on the other side of this argument will never grant this consequence.
 
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