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We have no way of knowing if what you believe aligns with the Bible and/or with the Nicene Creed Ligurian, because you've never explained what you actually believe (or answered any of our questions).What have I said that isn't Scripture? and what have I stated that doesn't match this:
Πιστεύομεν εἰς ἕνα Θεὸν Πατέρα παντοκράτορα, πάντων ὁρατῶν τε καὶ ἀοράτων ποιητήν·
καὶ εἰς ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, γεννηθέντα ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς [μονογενῆ, τοὐτέστιν ἐκ τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Πατρός, Θεὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ,] Φῶς ἐκ Φωτός, Θεὸν ἀληθινὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ, γεννηθέντα, οὐ ποιηθέντα, ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρί,
δι' οὗ τὰ πάντα ἐγένετο, [τά τε ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ καὶ τὰ ἐν τῇ γῇ,]
τὸν δι' ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀνθρώπους καὶ διὰ τὴν ἡμετέραν σωτηρίαν κατελθόντα καὶ σαρκωθέντα καὶ ἐνανθρωπήσαντα,
παθόντα, καὶ ἀναστάντα τῇ τρίτῃ ἡμέρᾳ, ἀνελθόντα εἰς τοὺς οὐρανούς,
ἐρχόμενον κρῖναι ζῶντας καὶ νεκρούς.
Καὶ εἰς τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα.
[Τοὺς δὲ λέγοντας, Ἦν ποτε ὅτε οὐκ ἦν, καὶ Πρὶν γεννηθῆναι οὐκ ἦν, καὶ ὅτι Ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων εγένετο, ἢ Ἐξ ἑτέρας ὑποστάσεως ἢ οὐσίας φάσκοντας εἶναι, ἢ κτιστόν, ἢ τρεπτόν, ἢ ἀλλοιωτὸν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, τούτους ἀναθεματίζει ἡ ἁγία καθολικὴ καὶ ἀποστολικὴ ἐκκλησία].
So far, the only thing you've done is.....
1. post some terminology (e.g. the New Covenant, the Gospel of the Kingdom) without defining what those terms mean (to you) and,
2. used some Scripture verses in defense of your beliefs ... without ever explaining what the "beliefs" that you are defending actually are
2. used some Scripture verses in defense of your beliefs ... without ever explaining what the "beliefs" that you are defending actually are
So there's no way to know what you believe (except by conjecture), and what's the point in that
My 'guess' is that you believe in "works righteousness", and that you have redefined the Biblical phrase, the Gospel of the Kingdom, as a means justifying that belief .. to yourself anyway (because the rest of us don't know what you actually believe, and we never will, as long as you continue to refuse to tell us).
--David
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