Pfizer vaccine still NOT fully approved by FDA

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That way the mandates can roll out but they're still not liable at this point. Pretty slick operation.
Exactly the plan. There is no liability under the continuing EUA for Pfizer. There isn't any "Conmirnaty" yet, so no one is using it. It will not be shielded unless they can convince enough people that children must be forced to take it.
 
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I'm not convinced you're actually waiting for evidence.

Here, I'll even post a picture of me waiting for your evidence:
Convinced now?
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I think it's very telling that senior FDA officials are starting to step down. Supposedly it's about the booster shots but certainly one can speculate there's more going on.

Specifically, the Director and Deputy Director of the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review. Two at the top specifically relating to the vaccine approval process. The director was at the FDA for over 30 years before resigning due to this.

Marion Gruber, director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research & Review, and deputy director Phil Krause are set to leave the agency this fall, with sources telling Politico that the two officials were at odds with the FDA’s top vaccine official, Peter Marks, and were discontented over the roles of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices in decisions that they believed should be handled by the FDA.

According to trade publication Endpoints, the officials felt they were sidelined on major decisions, that the administration’s plan for boosters was jumping the gun, and that Marks should have pushed for the FDA to have more autonomy on the matter.


Two senior FDA officials resign over Biden administration booster shot plan (nypost.com)

CDC calling the shots on the FDA's approval of boosters? Nothing to see here, folks, just good old science at work.
 
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CDC calling the shots on the FDA's approval of boosters? Nothing to see here, folks, just good old science at work.

Exactly. And people still want to believe that the CDC hasn't lost credibility.
 
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I posted about this as well on another thread. Between that, stepping into gun control conversation and the rental mandates, I'm like what is going on??? I stated that they stepped out of their lane ages ago and who knows when they'll be back. And apparently some at the FDA are realizing it as well.
 
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I posted about this as well on another thread. Between that, stepping into gun control conversation and the rental mandates, I'm like what is going on??? I stated that they stepped out of their lane ages ago and who knows when they'll be back. And apparently some at the FDA are realizing it as well.

They're being given extra-constitutional authority. Where the Federal government legislature has a constitutional process of creating laws, the CDC is being given the authority to create its own laws in a dictatorial way. If they use Covid as an excuse, they can actually take away the basic right of landowners to make someone either pay rent to use that property, or to leave. Also to prevent business owners from lawfully running their business, yet still have to pay the expenses while a renter does not. The result being that business owners lose their business, and landowners lose their property. The common purpose is the elimination of personal property as prescribed in the Great Reset where you "will own nothing, and will be happy".
 
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Specifically, the Director and Deputy Director of the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review. Two at the top specifically relating to the vaccine approval process. The director was at the FDA for over 30 years before resigning due to this.

Wow, someone near the end of their career is retiring? Obviously signs of a nefarious conspiracy. Next thing you'll know women will start taking time off mid-career to raise families, and we all know how that proves the moon landings were a hoax.
 
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Wow, someone near the end of their career is retiring? Obviously signs of a nefarious conspiracy. Next thing you'll know women will start taking time off mid-career to raise families, and we all know how that proves the moon landings were a hoax.

And the deputy director with 10 years of service. Both cited CDC overreach and lack of FDA independence as their reasoning.

You continue to handwave away anything which doesn't fit in with your narrative, lest your narrative fall apart.
 
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And the deputy director with 10 years of service. Both cited CDC overreach and lack of FDA independence as their reasoning.

OK, connect the dots for us. What do the resignations say about safety and effectiveness of the vaccines currently in use? Please be specific.
 
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OK, connect the dots for us. What do the resignations say about safety and effectiveness of the vaccines currently in use? Please be specific.

They say that the decisions aren't being made by the FDA as they have been in the past. They are an indication of CDC overreach in the vaccine approval process of the Covid vaccines.
 
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They say that the decisions aren't being made by the FDA as they have been in the past. They are an indication of CDC overreach in the vaccine approval process of the Covid vaccines.
And what specific overreach are you alleging?
 
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And what specific overreach are you alleging?

It was the director and deputy director of the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review that were alleging overreach. They were not specific in their concerns other than they felt it impeded on the autonomy the FDA had in their previous experience.

Why you think i should have specific knowledge of what transpired is beyond me.

That you seem to ignore all red flags and pretend there's nothing to see has been patently obvious throughout our discussions.
 
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That you seem to ignore all red flags and pretend there's nothing to see has been patently obvious throughout our discussions.
No, I'm just trying to figure out what the big deal is. No one seems to be able to give specifics, but that doesn't seem to stop the innuendo about conspiracies or jumping to conclusions that it must mean there's something being hidden about the vaccine.
 
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No, it was mainly the fact you felt the need to post rumors as if they were convincing that drove my skepticism.

I got the idea from Harry Reid. Rumors were valid for him and his party.
 
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You were in favor of Harry doing that, right?

I have to be. He's a democrat. Besides, it worked well in the media, who went along with it as if rumors are valid. Why shouldn't I be allowed to use the same logic as Harry?
 
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It appears that there are two separate authorizations, one full approval for 16 and older, and an emergency approval fir 12 and older and third doses. In the new emergency approval, footnote 8 refers to this, saying that the regularly approved and emergency approved vaccines are the same, and can be used interchangeably.
I appreciate it when people read.
 
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