Which day did God choose?

[Hezekiah81]

What day are the body of Christ to worship on? Do we keep God's commandment he said to remember or forget it? Are God's commandments no longer valid under new covenant? Did God change the day he sanctified the seventh day to the first day sunday or is it pick a day any day? Please use biblical evidence in scripture only to answer this.

 

[Albion]

What day are the body of Christ to worship on?

Worship is permitted on any day. The church of Christ chose Sunday to be its principle day of worship because that is the day on which the Lord rose from the dead.

Do we keep God's commandment he said to remember or forget it?

Keep.

Did God change the day he sanctified the seventh day to the first day sunday

No.

Please use biblical evidence in scripture only to answer this.

Acts of the Apostles 20:7

 

[Torah Keeper]

Gen 2. Exodus 20. Isaiah 66. For you "NT only" Christians, there are lots of examples of the first Christians meeting on the Sabbath. Including when no synagogue was available.

 

[pescador]

Gen 2. Exodus 20. Isaiah 66. For you "NT only" Christians, there are lots of examples of the first Christians meeting on the Sabbath. Including when no synagogue was available.

To whom are you referring when you label them "NT only"? That seems like a harsh judgement against people you don't even know.

"Then Barnabas departed for Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught a significant number of people. Now it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians." Acts 11:25-27

What about the believers before that? They were almost all Jews.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Colossians Chapter 2.

In order to save us, some ordinances were nailed to the cross, including the sabbath.

So you can insist on (everyone) following the sabbath, but it's basically saying Jesus died in vain.

 

[.Jeremiah.]

What day are the body of Christ to worship on? Do we keep God's commandment he said to remember or forget it? Are God's commandments no longer valid under new covenant? Did God change the day he sanctified the seventh day to the first day sunday or is it pick a day any day? Please use biblical evidence in scripture only to answer this.

John 13:34 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Can you love one another on Wednesday “worship” day?
Good, then go for it.

Mark 12
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’
31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

Matthew 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets

All the law and prophets hang on those 2 (TWO) commandments. ALL.

So, if one “worships” on Thursday AND covers those two commandments, then go for it.

 

[Hezekiah81]

John 13:34 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Can you love one another on Wednesday “worship” day?
Good, then go for it.

Mark 12
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’
31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

Matthew 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets

All the law and prophets hang on those 2 (TWO) commandments. ALL.

So, if one “worships” on Thursday AND covers those two commandments, then go for it.

Jesus was quoting straight from torah when he said love God and your neighbor those commandments have always been given, I think he is summarizing the law to make it simple for you to understand, and the word hang doesn't mean abolish the rest. If Jesus wanted to abolish his own law he would have said so which he didn't, he said think not that I have come to destroy the law and the prophets.

 

[1watchman]

What day are the body of Christ to worship on? Do we keep God's commandment he said to remember or forget it? Are God's commandments no longer valid under new covenant? Did God change the day he sanctified the seventh day to the first day sunday or is it pick a day any day? Please use biblical evidence in scripture only to answer this.

God says in our New Testament to take "all the counsel of God" and be "rightly dividing the Word of Truth". We are not 'rightly dividing the Word of Truth' when we try to apply the Old Testament religion of Israel to the Church today. The OT is about creation, history, and the religion given Israel as a type of their coming Messiah --whom they rejected and crucified when He came; so God gave them up and turned to the Gentiles. It all is typology of the real salvation and reign of God in Christ in the New Testament.
Today all souls (Jews and Gentiles) must come to Christ for salvation and eternal life. The Israelite religion will be re-instated in a future day (as shown in Revelation) as God promised by 'covenant' in the OT. Saints of God must not be looking back to that religion today (including Jews) and all bowing now to Jesus Christ as told (see John 3; John 14; Romans 8; etc.). Let us not scramble Holy Scripture, and start reading it as God intends --not by picking and choosing verses to read to make a religion to please the flesh.

As to the day of collective worship it is the first day of the week showing thus the resurrection of the Son of God (our Sonday --which the world prefers to call a 'sun day' --maybe to worship the sun). The true saints then have the Lord's supper, collective praise, etc. All "born again" saints (John 3:16) need to be honoring God and gather on the Lord's day. We surely might well have special gatherings also at other times for praise and ministry.

 

[Hezekiah81]

God says in our New Testament to take "all the counsel of God" and be "rightly dividing the Word of Truth". We are not 'rightly dividing the Word of Truth' when we try to apply the Old Testament religion of Israel to the Church today. The OT is about creation, history, and the religion given Israel as a type of their coming Messiah --whom they rejected and crucified when He came; so God gave them up and turned to the Gentiles. It all is typology of the real salvation and reign of God in Christ in the New Testament.
Today all souls (Jews and Gentiles) must come to Christ for salvation and eternal life. The Israelite religion will be re-instated in a future day (as shown in Revelation) as God promised by 'covenant' in the OT. Saints of God must not be looking back to that religion today (including Jews) and all bowing now to Jesus Christ as told (see John 3; John 14; Romans 8; etc.). Let us not scramble Holy Scripture, and start reading it as God intends --not by picking and choosing verses to read to make a religion to please the flesh.

As to the day of collective worship it is the first day of the week showing thus the resurrection of the Son of God (our Sonday --which the world prefers to call a 'sun day' --maybe to worship the sun). The true saints then have the Lord's supper, collective praise, etc. All "born again" saints (John 3:16) need to be honoring God and gather on the Lord's day. We surely might well have special gatherings also at other times for praise and ministry.

[God chooses what righteous living is not man.] (2Timothy 3:16-17) 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. [All scripture means all not just new testament like mixed up religion would have you believe is the only thing valid. The old hebrew scriptures don't contradict the new, they agree and validate each other.]

 

[pescador]

Colossians Chapter 2.

In order to save us, some ordinances were nailed to the cross, including the sabbath.

So you can insist on (everyone) following the sabbath, but it's basically saying Jesus died in vain.

That's a bit of an overstatement. How does observing the sabbath negate Jesus' sacrifice?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

That's a bit of an overstatement. How does observing the sabbath negate Jesus' sacrifice?

Reflection on Galatians 2:21.

Here we have people insisting on others following the previous covenant as if Jesus didn't die, so, it is what it is.

 

[pescador]

Reflection on Galatians 2:21.

Here we have people insisting on others following the previous covenant as if Jesus didn't die, so, it is what it is.

Galatians 2:21, " I do not set aside God’s grace, because if righteousness could come through the law, then Christ died for nothing"

Where do you get that idea that "we have people insisting on others following the previous covenant as if Jesus didn't die" from that one out-of-context verse?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Galatians 2:21, " I do not set aside God’s grace, because if righteousness could come through the law, then Christ died for nothing"

Where do you get that idea that "we have people insisting on others following the previous covenant as if Jesus didn't die" from that one out-of-context verse?

If this is considered out of context for Paul's letter to the Galatians, I'm getting a bigger picture of what is wrong with Christianity today.

It is also written elsewhere that if you break one point of the law, then you've transgressed against all of it. Here we are speaking about compulsory sabbath observance, in Galatians they're speaking of compulsory circumcision. However, they are all one point of the same law, so obligating the dietary laws, sabbath, circumcision, same difference. Jesus died the way He did so we wouldn't be subjected to an impossible standard like that.

 

[Hezekiah81]

Reflection on Galatians 2:21.

Here we have people insisting on others following the previous covenant as if Jesus didn't die, so, it is what it is.

Keeping God's commandments isn't serving Christ in vain but breaking his commandments and trying to abolish them is.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Keeping God's commandments isn't serving Christ in vain but breaking his commandments and trying to abolish them is.

Not written. Following the old covenant is saying the new covenant is of null effect, thus saying Christ died in vain. That's what Galatians 2:21 is all about.

However, the age is late, and heretical teachings being mainstream are to be expected.

 

[Hezekiah81]

Not written. Following the old covenant is saying the new covenant is of null effect, thus saying Christ died in vain. That's what Galatians 2:21 is all about.

However, the age is late, and heretical teachings being mainstream are to be expected.

Nowhere does it say keeping God's commandments nullifies the new covenant, but if you don't keep them you are a practicer of lawlessness.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Nowhere does it say keeping God's commandments nullifies the new covenant, but if you don't keep them you are a practicer of lawlessness.

Interpretation, but not scripture.

 

[Hezekiah81]

Not written. Following the old covenant is saying the new covenant is of null effect, thus saying Christ died in vain. That's what Galatians 2:21 is all about.

However, the age is late, and heretical teachings being mainstream are to be expected.

And haven't you heard the good news God made a new covenant why would I live under the old one.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

And haven't you heard the good news God made a new covenant why would I live under the old one.

It depends who you listen to.

God, or the part of your body that tries to convince you that he is god by quoting scripture.

Since satan quoted scripture and was rebuked by Jesus, we know that wicked thoughts are not allergic to scripture and the most prideful thoughts seek anything out to assert their importance, including scripture.

 

[Hezekiah81]

Not written. Following the old covenant is saying the new covenant is of null effect, thus saying Christ died in vain. That's what Galatians 2:21 is all about.

However, the age is late, and heretical teachings being mainstream are to be expected.

They are talking about works without faith not the other way around.