Non-Vaccinated forbidden at his practice

[ThatRobGuy]

This article is dated May 2021

They were going to die anyway…someday
One hypothesis I’ve heard, and which is hinted at by Gee, et.al. in the paper above, is that the elderly and infirm, many in long-term care facilities, were the first to be targeted by the COVID-19 vaccine campaign, and they are much more likely to die coincidentally. These coincidental deaths then lead to an increase in suspected vaccine-induced deaths reported to VAERS. (*cough*)

VAERS data just does not support that hypothesis. First, because all age groups—not just seniors—had a dramatic increase in VAERS death reports from COVID-19 vaccines, as illustrated in the charts below. The red line represents reported COVID-19 vaccine deaths, and the green line represents other vaccines. Across the board, all age groups experienced a dramatic increase in deaths reported to VAERS from the COVID-19 shots—even the under 18 group, which has had very few COVID-19 shots (so far).

Second, the increase in death reports in the 65+ age group is just so massive that coincidental death, no matter how sickly the population, just doesn’t seem like a sufficient and plausible explanation. After all, the elderly and infirm in long-term care facilities are frequent targets of flu shot campaigns.

The Deadly COVID-19 Vaccine Coverup

So, I've done large write-ups on this before, but VAERS isn't a reliable source. It's 100% user-submitted, and the reports don't get reviewed. I could literally go to that website right now, write something wacky, and click submit, it'll get added to their aggregated data.
(I did a big long post showing all of the humorous reports that were submitted to the system that were clearly just cases of people making up ridiculous things to try to be funny)

When I downloaded the csv file from VAERS, and scrolled through it a bit, I found submissions like these:
"About 5 hrs after receiving vaccine muscle ache in shoulder. Penis reduced in size, length, and circumference is significant since following day and pain in penal area from day 3 and day 5 most noticeable. Shape of penis has changed (noticed on day 4 due to an erection) and the skin has become loose with the size reduction (like baggy pants.)" -- a very scientific description, and totally not a 16 year old kid trying to make cheesy anatomy jokes.

"Explosive Diarhea and a touch of the AIDS" -- I'm glad this person only got 'a touch' of the AIDS and not full blown AIDS...that could've been serious...and they almost spelled diarrhea correctly.

"I feel like <****> dude!" -- a very thorough assessment, I'm sure that's the official terminology they teach in med school.

"666 Blood clots, heart attack, died 5 times survived, Blood is very thick blood thinners unable to thin" -- yeah, I'm sure that happened.

However, it would seem as if VAERS is the least sketchy source of information in this post.

The other sources shown are
Virginia Stoner Writing & Art (checked that website, not impressed)

...and some random person's wordpress page referencing the virginiastoner page content

Those aren't sources. (and I've seen these sorts of tactics before, I wouldn't be surprised if the same person owned both sites...it's not an uncommon tactic for a person to create a bunch of ancillary wordpress pages under different names, all with the same flawed info from their main page, in order to make it look like they have multiple sources to support their position, when really it's just their own content, repackaged and displayed 5 different ways)

 

[Pommer]

It’s the same as yours.

But I’m not scared of this “tyranny” since I don’t see it thusly.

 

[Hammster]

But I’m not scared of this “tyranny” since I don’t see it thusly.

Okay.

 

[bèlla]

Not to worry, they’ll join you Sunday.

 

[jayem]

Some folks like tyranny.

I know. Like dictating what pregnant woman can do.

 

[Blade]

I just watched a video of this nurse in the hospital talk about the people in the hospital there with covid all had the vaccine.

So much of this lol talk goes out the window. Ignoring the fact you with the vaccine can get and pass to others covid from others with the vaccine. If your not watching listening to ANY news then this might be a shock to you. Yet I am guessing almost everyone here know this just.. oddly leaves it out.

I do also notice here those that post lol don't use the same language when talking about people crossing the border that will not get the vaccine and Washington is not will not demand they get it. Odd even the left media also do not do this. I thought we care about people getting the vaccine?

yeah.. there not stupid nor are they killing others. Those crossing the border with no masks young and old.. they are not being told they are killing our children.

Right in front of me from one of the most famous news "Covid vaccines still effective against Delta variant" seems not at the nurses hospital.

 

[sfs]

Yes it is.

Well, in the history of the world it's been how tyranny crept in exactly zero times.

 

[sfs]

I just watched a video of this nurse in the hospital talk about the people in the hospital there with covid all had the vaccine.

Maybe you should get your information from places other than videos.

So much of this lol talk goes out the window. Ignoring the fact you with the vaccine can get and pass to others covid from others with the vaccine. If your not watching listening to ANY news then this might be a shock to you. Yet I am guessing almost everyone here know this just.. oddly leaves it out.

Huh? It gets brought up here all the time. Vaccinated people can be infected, and they can get sick, and they can (almost certainly) transmit the virus. But they do all of those things much less frequently than unvaccinated people. Why did you leave out that last bit?

Right in front of me from one of the most famous news "Covid vaccines still effective against Delta variant" seems not at the nurses hospital.

See first comment above.

 

[Hammster]

I know. Like dictating what pregnant woman can do.

They are free to have their babies.

 

[Hammster]

Well, in the history of the world it's been how tyranny crept in exactly zero times.

You don’t think “safety of the masses” has been used?

 

[JulieB67]

"In a joint statement, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration; U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy and other public health officials said recent evidence showed that, as with other vaccines, protection granted by the available COVID-19 vaccines wanes over time."

The irony is that some of the vaccinated people walking into his office might still have Covid while turning away some unvaccinated that might have aquired natural immunity and not have Covid at that particular time. And we know both can still get Covid.

Crazy times....

 

[sfs]

You don’t think “safety of the masses” has been used?

I don't think 'we're in a epidemic and we've got to impose temporary measures' has ever been used, no, despite a lot of epidemics and a lot of temporary measures. 'We've got to protect ourselves from scary foreigners' -- that one's been used a lot.

 

[jayem]

They are free to have their babies.

Pregnant women are free to do more than that.

 

[Hammster]

Pregnant women are free to do more than that.

Do you mean murder their babies? Unfortunately, yes.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I think it's hilarious that the first thing the tyrants will do is force medication....

And not kidnap our women and force them into sexual slavery.

Yeah, it's terrible to try and protect people from a disease that is extremely easy to catch and spread. What we need is special living space for anti vaxxers. Let them all catch the disease, (It won't take long to spread), wait until everyone has recovered or died, and let them back into the real world. Everyone should be happy with that, surely. Use California for the anti vaxxer's (not so) safe place. I'm sure that Californians won't mind.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Some folks like tyranny.

If you want to be an anarchist, you have to disobey God's word. End of story.

 

[Hammster]

Yeah, it's terrible to try and protect people from a disease that is extremely easy to catch and spread. What we need is special living space for anti vaxxers. Let them all catch the disease, (It won't take long to spread), wait until everyone has recovered or died, and let them back into the real world. Everyone should be happy with that, surely. Use California for the anti vaxxer's (not so) safe place. I'm sure that Californians won't mind.

And that’s not tyranny?

 

[Aussie Pete]

And that’s not tyranny?

Of course it is. But it would at least let the anti vaxxers experience the consequences of their attitude and leave the sensible people to get on with their lives. Surely that's democracy? Let people do whatever they please? I am being sarcastic. Maybe you did not notice.

 

[JulieB67]

But it would at least let the anti vaxxers experience the consequences of their attitude and leave the sensible people to get on with their lives.

And it's not sensible for some to want to wait to see what the possible long term effects of a fast rolled out vaccine are for a virus that is 98/99 percent survivable?

Especially when this was stated this week?

"In a joint statement, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration; U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy and other public health officials said recent evidence showed that, as with other vaccines, protection granted by the available COVID-19 vaccines wanes over time...."

So it ceases to be about "everyone needs to get "vaccinated". You'll be signing up for boosters, etc And expect everyone else to do so as well. We are all different, have different make ups, different immune systems, conditions, ages, etc. That's why it should always be an individual decision. Especially when this vaccine is so relatively new, unlike the past ones that have years of study behind them.

And it's not sensible for the millions of people with natural immunity who still have antibodies to not take a shot that most likely will add little benefit and potentially do more harm?

People can trust all these back and forth studies but I still trust immunologist Hooman Noorchashm who stated natural immunity is still the gold standard and more likely robust than the vaccines and more likely to handle the variants as well. And going by the above statemnt from the CDC and FDA we see this is most likely true. Especially the more we learn about B and T cells. No one is suggesting that anyone go out and get Covid, but that these individuals (including myself) need to be included in the discussion.

Noorchashm is vaccinated so it's not about that for him. He is simply a patient advocate and says the vaccine should not be a "one for all" approach. Especially for younger people who are known to have more side effects from the vaccine. He says antibodies should be tested before decisions are made, etc. Sounds very sensible to me.
But it's clearly not about being sensible anymore. And it's clearly not about "herd immunity" anymore.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

And it's not sensible for some to want to wait to see what the possible long term effects of a fast rolled out vaccine are for a virus that is 98/99 percent survivable?

Especially when this was stated this week?

"In a joint statement, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration; U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy and other public health officials said recent evidence showed that, as with other vaccines, protection granted by the available COVID-19 vaccines wanes over time...."

So it ceases to be about "everyone needs to get "vaccinated". You'll be signing up for boosters, etc And expect everyone else to do so as well. We are all different, have different make ups, different immune systems, conditions, ages, etc. That's why it should always be an individual decision. Especially when this vaccine is so relatively new, unlike the past ones that have years of study behind them.

And it's not sensible for the millions of people with natural immunity who still have antibodies to not take a shot that most likely will add little benefit and potentially do more harm?

People can trust all these back and forth studies but I still trust immunologist Hooman Noorchashm who stated natural immunity is still the gold standard and more likely robust than the vaccines and more likely to handle the variants as well. And going by the above statemnt from the CDC and FDA we see this is most likely true. Especially the more we learn about B and T cells. No one is suggesting that anyone go out and get Covid, but that these individuals (including myself) need to be included in the discussion.

Noorchashm is vaccinated so it's not about that for him. He is simply a patient advocate and says the vaccine should not be a "one for all" approach. Especially for younger people who are known to have more side effects from the vaccine. He says antibodies should be tested before decisions are made, etc. Sounds very sensible to me.
But it's clearly not about being sensible anymore. And it's clearly not about "herd immunity" anymore.

So do you know someone, or know of someone with a robust immune system never wound up hospitalized with Covid-19 disease? I'm sorry to say that I do. They kept touting what you touted, only to have it not turn out so well for them.