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"These same people are now telling you the vaccine is safe, you must take it and if you don’t you will be a second class citizen. Understand vaccine hesitancy now?"


no, will never understand vaccine hesitancy because this is a PUBLIC health crisis


vaccine hesitancy come from anti- vaccine people spreading false info on social media

conspiracy theory relative has all falsehoods on his page
many posts end up being taken off by FB
he said vaccine "takes away belief in God"......seriously?!
 
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no, will never understand vaccine hesitancy because this is a PUBLIC health crisis

And probably an engineered one at that, considering that it was initially posited that the virus escaped from a laboratory but you weren't allowed to say that because it was "racist" ("Racist" means anything that the democrat party in the US or the US media doesn't want you talking about). Now a few weeks ago, there was very brief talk from the media about how "scientists are revisiting the lab leak theory" and now a few weeks later: NOTHING. No new stories about the origin of COVID19 but plenty of stories about the "delta variant" and how everything has to shut back down again and everyone should be wearing masks in their own homes.

"Fifteen days to slow the spread" has become a year and a half of the global powers doing everything they can to strip people of whatever liberties they enjoy in life and Obiden doing everything he can to cause massive inflation and finish off any small businesses that may have survived the initial shutdown.

What's especially interesting is that a global pandemic was "wargamed" out by world leaders prior to 2020 in something called "EVENT 201". Seeing as I do not believe in coincidences, I believe that the virus was purposely released. Call me a "conspiracy theorist" all you want, conspiracies are real and we only learn about them fifty years after the fact when everyone involved in them has died.
 
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What's especially interesting is that a global pandemic was "wargamed" out by world leaders prior to 2020 in something called "EVENT 201".

not so interesting at all

pandemics occur every 100 years
there were multiple meetings to see if we were ready for the next one

even Bush was warned about upcoming pandemic
 
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pandemics occur every 100 years
there were multiple meetings to "practice" or see if we were ready for the next one

They occur more often than every 100 years. There have been tons in my lifetime: Swine flu, bird flu, bacterial encephalitis, Zika, SARS, West Nile Virus and the list goes on.

I really hold to the belief that the COVID19 virus at least escaped from a lab, if it wasn't intentionally released to give the global power structure the excuse they needed to implement "the Great Reset" (dragging the standard of living down in the Western world for the purposes of "social justice")
 
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I also find it very convenient that the "Worst pandemic ever" managed to happen in a presidential election year when a President who was popular with the people but hated by the elites had managed to defeat their "Most Qualified Candidate In History™" and that these same elites had also wargamed out a secession scenario if this President happened to win again and encouraged the challenger to "Not concede at any cost".

Something about it strikes me as very weird.
 
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many, many people warned about 2020 pandemic

there were many practices to see if we'd be prepared & conclusion was "we were not prepared"

manuals were written, believe there was a Ted talk on upcoming pandemic, etc

Yeah I know, that's what I find to be disturbing about the whole thing but keep in mind that I am a paranoid schizoaffective, so I tend to read into happenings things that may not actually be there or see significance in events when there is none in reality.
 
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"These same people are now telling you the vaccine is safe, you must take it and if you don’t you will be a second class citizen. Understand vaccine hesitancy now?"


no, will never understand vaccine hesitancy because this is a PUBLIC health crisis


vaccine hesitancy come from anti- vaccine people spreading false info on social media

conspiracy theory relative has all falsehoods on his page
many posts end up being taken off by FB
he said vaccine "takes away belief in God"......seriously?!

I've had all my vaccines until now, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. MMR, Diphtheria, Polio, Yellow Fever, Dengue Fever, Hep A/B, I've had them all (except the flu vaccine, never needed one). But I don't trust this one iota. It was developed differently, there are too many question marks surrounding it's background, it's development, and it's distribution; there are way too many deaths associated with it, and the fact that the government is incentivizing people to get it (see: Ohio lottery offering $1M to X number of people who get the vaccine) tells me more than enough that this vaccine is in the service of something else.

The vaccine wasn't made for the virus, the virus was made for the vaccine.

If you're just going to parrot the liberal talking points calling this a public health crisis, and accusing people of being selfish because they don't want it, then you're a lost cause. Adios and may God have mercy on you.
 
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The vaccine wasn't made for the virus, the virus was made for the vaccine.

I got it because I figured "What do I have to lose?" It's not like I'll ever be having kids or anything and I'm generally not an anti-vaxxer, so when they offered it up for people my age to get it, I went and got the Pfizer one.

But I am curious as to why they're so adamant that literally everyone get it regardless of their health background. I'm wondering what purpose it actually serves, what it actually does to you. I mean, it's not like I care that much because the government has been ruining my life since I was a child, and the vaccine hasn't turned me into a liberal or anything, so maybe it didn't work as intended on me. It is experimental after all. I just figured that I'd take a shot (no pun intended) on it because I was sick of wearing their stupid masks.

I'm not denying that the virus is real either, but I don't think that the bureaucracy knows as much about it as they're pretending to. I think a lot of what they say regarding it is designed to try and cut down on panic because they know that the constant fear-mongering from CNN isn't going to help keep the population docile in the face of a crisis.

Honestly I'm sick of hearing about Covid19 and how "deadly" and "dangerous" it is, I'm over the entire covid19 thing and just wish that we would go back to normal already. They obviously have ways to treat it, because Trump got it and was fine in like two days. The fact of the matter is that it seems like they don't want to treat it, because effective treatment would mean that nobody needs their precious vaccine.

I honestly regret getting the vaccine now. If I could go back in time and not get it, I wouldn't have gotten it. I feel like by my getting it, I'm just encouraging the democrat party and their sycophants like Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow.
 
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They obviously have ways to treat it, because Trump got it and was fine in like two days.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/11/covid-trump-was-sicker-from-coronavirus-than-first-said.html


"Trump, after contracting Covid-19, had “extremely depressed blood oxygen levels at one point and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus,” The New York Times reported.

His condition was so poor, the Times reported, that “officials believed he would be put on a ventilator” before he was taken from the White House to Walter Reed National Military Center, the newspaper said."
 
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But I am curious as to why they're so adamant that literally everyone get it regardless of their health background. I'm wondering what purpose it actually serves, what it actually does to you. I mean, it's not like I care that much because the government has been ruining my life since I was a child, and the vaccine hasn't turned me into a liberal or anything, so maybe it didn't work as intended on me. It is experimental after all. I just figured that I'd take a shot (no pun intended) on it because I was sick of wearing their stupid masks.

Exactly. That's the sort of question they're dodging.
 
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Exactly. That's the sort of question they're dodging

My speculation is that it sterilizes you. I base this on the fact that when Bill Gates was whining about overpopulation he said "We can get the world population down with vaccines". I don't believe that they kill you outright, just that this one might sterilize you, which is why you have to sign a waiver before you get it that releases whoever it is from all liability. However, it doesn't make sense that they'd be giving it to elderly people first if that were the case, so I'm probably wrong about that and just paranoid.

What's your theory on it, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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The New York Times reported.

I'm sorry, but this is the same paper that ran the 1619 Project. I don't believe a word that they print anymore as a result of this.
 
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My speculation is that it sterilizes you. I base this on the fact that when Bill Gates was whining about overpopulation he said "We can get the world population down with vaccines". I don't believe that they kill you outright, just that this one might sterilize you, which is why you have to sign a waiver before you get it that releases whoever it is from all liability. However, it doesn't make sense that they'd be giving it to elderly people first if that were the case, so I'm probably wrong about that and just paranoid.

What's your theory on it, if you don't mind me asking?

That's basically on the optimistic end of my spectrum of hypothetical outcomes. Best case scenario: it works as advertised and people are immunized from this manufactured Chinese virus.

However, I think everything beyond that outcome of the spectrum is a malicious and intentional outcome. I suspect the "best of the bad situation" outcome is it sterilizes it's recipients, at the opposite end of the spectrum: it's fatal and at least two billion people across the world die.

I want to be wrong, but I just don't trust the apparatchiks operating the backroom machinery that's driving this thing enough to believe that I am.
 
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I suspect the "best of the bad situation" outcome is it sterilizes it's recipients, at the opposite end of the spectrum: it's fatal and at least two billion people across the world die.

I think that ties in with Bill Gates saying "We can get the number (of population) down with vaccines". But if you actually try to talk about the vaccine killing people, you'll be banned from most web platforms before you even get to share the information. The power structure is adamant that everyone needs this vaccine and that everyone should get it despite it being unapproved by the FDA and still being experimental.

Just today, Google was trying to ram crap down my throat about "Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Save others". The power structure of big tech and legacy media are colluding to silence any and all opposition to the vaccine.

Luckily I did not die from it, but I was very worried about it initially and after getting each dose, have seriously though "I could drop dead at any minute now". It probably sterilized me, but that's no big deal because I wasn't having children anyway.
 
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I think that ties in with Bill Gates saying "We can get the number (of population) down with vaccines". But if you actually try to talk about the vaccine killing people, you'll be banned from most web platforms before you even get to share the information. The power structure is adamant that everyone needs this vaccine and that everyone should get it despite it being unapproved by the FDA and still being experimental.

Just today, Google was trying to ram crap down my throat about "Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Save others". The power structure of big tech and legacy media are colluding to silence any and all opposition to the vaccine.

Luckily I did not die from it, but I was very worried about it initially and after getting each dose, have seriously though "I could drop dead at any minute now". It probably sterilized me, but that's no big deal because I wasn't having children anyway.

I just saw today he's backing the development of a male birth control pill. The man has zero regard for human life, human dignity or the family. He's kind of the personification of anti-life at this point. But his agenda is consistent across the board. Whether it's to serve him or his master(s), he wants to decrease the population enough that it can be more easily enslaved. Seven billion is just too tough to herd.

All the big tech companies are making hard pushes. Google and YouTube - my family has YouTube TV and during commercial breaks they'll inject their own vaccination promos. MLB.tv runs all kinds of vaccine ad campaigns. It's everywhere, almost inescapable. But it just makes me more entrenched in my position.

I hope there are no ill effects or outcomes, for you or for anyone else who has taken it. Unfortunately there have already been too many tragedies associated with it but I hope there are no more.
 
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